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Quote from: I am the guy on August 08, 2015, 09:28:30 PM

(mining question) I'm only getting like ~50 MH/s from my 270x card. Does anyone else have 270x? Would be great to see your bat file config settings.

270MH/s on 270x card - with smelter miner by Smolen from OP. Be sure, you don't have old Catalyst driver. I have 15.4 Beta driver now.

Edit> bat file: smelter -o stratum+tcp://vnl.suprnova.cc:1111 -u Weblogin.WorkerName -p WorkerPassword -g 4 -W 64

Thanks

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Quote from: MemoryShock on August 12, 2015, 05:02:04 PM

He didn't get a bitcoin core dev. He got a friend of his who is knowledgable. Considering that CryptoClub is a huge proponent of HZ and has been a part of that community from close to the beginning, I am presuming he got someone from that project to take a look.

He further promised a report (like he was/is an authority able to delegate like that) and that never happened.

His words have nothing to do with the project anyway and discussing his uninvited and perhaps presumptious talking points is an exercise in 'wheel spinning'.

My two cents.

Nope, he said it was a Bitcoin Dev. I assumed core. Also, it was in May. He may have said it earlier in IRC though; not sure about that.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11401870

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Quote from: CryptoClub on May 17, 2015, 10:56:59 AM

Not sure if I mentioned it here, but a Bitcoin dev I know is doing a code review for Vanillacoin. Funny thing, he was commenting in my group about some other coin he didn't approve of code-wise, and I explained I can't really do code reviews and I just go on the fundamentals. Anyway, he want's to help out the crypto scene and is working on the code review for Vanillacoin. Super technical and it will be a paper, but what I know so far is it definitely isn't a scam based on sheer amount of work, and he agrees it "shines" compared to most alts. He had some pros and cons, and I tried to explain it was still in progress and being worked on. Anyway, it was good enough news that I bought more.

When it is done I will publish on my website cryptocollectorsclub.com, and in the group link at the bottom of my sig. I asked him to do SDC next just as I have always been curious how good or bad the code is on that as well.

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Quote from: heartastack on August 10, 2015, 05:45:02 PM

I do find it unbelievable that someone with that many coins needs to cap the price to accumulate more?

The more they accumulate, the less will be the resistance on the way up.

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He didn't get a bitcoin core dev. He got a friend of his who is knowledgable. Considering that CryptoClub is a huge proponent of HZ and has been a part of that community from close to the beginning, I am presuming he got someone from that project to take a look.

He further promised a report (like he was/is an authority able to delegate like that) and that never happened.

His words have nothing to do with the project anyway and discussing his uninvited and perhaps presumptious talking points is an exercise in 'wheel spinning'.

My two cents.

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Quote from: brownmon on August 12, 2015, 02:56:13 PM

Quote from: hokus_pokus on August 12, 2015, 02:48:56 PM

Nice try, but your DISINFO is not going to work here.

P.S.
You skipped numbers - 1, 2, 5, and 9 - "Presumably" on purpose

Doesn't sound like you're very grateful to him for attempting to get a code review organised. Are code reviews of VNL code unwelcome?

Haha! You have no idea what you're talking about and completely ignored my earlier post. Cryptoclub said he got a bitcoin core dev to look into the VNL code several months back, maybe April. He said the bitcoin core dev said the code was the real deal, but it would take many months to go through it and that maybe he wouldn't post a review at all.

Regarding code reviews, Poloniex already did a code review, as I stated earlier. Their conclusion was to lower required VNL confirmations to 1. VNL is the only coin other than BTC that only requires 1 confirmation. Read what I wrote previously to test:

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You can test this by sending PPC and VNL to Poloniex or by looking at their API here: https://poloniex.com/public?command=returnCurrencies

You'll see "minConf":6, for PPC and "minConf":1, for VNL.

On a side note, from a message I received from CryptoClub, I now strongly suspect he is behind a few accounts, trying to manipulate the price lower. He wrote, "Let other people review the code." when all the code was open sourced and zerotime will be open sourced once committed, and he complained about john's personality again when everyone's known about that since the beginning. It sounds he's trying to drive home BS points through multiple accounts.

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Quote from: Delita Heiral on August 12, 2015, 03:32:21 PM

+1 respect.

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Quote from: hokus_pokus on August 12, 2015, 03:08:54 PM

If you are not CryptoClub then why the hell are you trying to answer for him??

Seems like you are just trying to spread DISINFO which means Disinformation (look it up ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinformation

Because I had answers or things to say about some of those questions. I did say above it "I'm not CryptoClub, but:"

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Disinformation is intentionally false or inaccurate information that is spread deliberately.

Please identify a specific example of me spreading disinformation relating to VNL.

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Quote from: brownmon on August 12, 2015, 02:56:13 PM

Quote from: hokus_pokus on August 12, 2015, 02:48:56 PM

Nice try, but your DISINFO is not going to work here.

P.S.
You skipped numbers - 1, 2, 5, and 9 - "Presumably" on purpose

Not really sure what DISINFO you mean; can you elaborate please?

"1. Early on you mentioned getting your friend to do a code review on Vanilla...(This was pre ZeroTime back then)"

It's not my friend; I don't really know about this.

"2. You mentioned that your friend looked over the code and could see NO reason why it wasn't original with all the detailed code"

I don't know about this as it wasn't my friend or me who were involved.

"5. Did your friend then look over neutered code on git without even talking to IRC crowd and John...lets just go blind on this...lol"

I don't know about this, but it doesn't really seem like IRC is the place for sensible discussion. I've seen logs and it's just like this thread -- Hypers or zombies caught in a cult of personality rabidly attacking anyone with questions or criticism, shouting "FUD FUD FUD!" with no clue of what they're talking about. And dev isn't much better in that regard.

"9. I will continue to laugh at people like you who want to be crypto famous on twitter and facebook(barf) while standing on the skulls of others"

Doesn't sound like you're very grateful to him for attempting to get a code review organised. Are code reviews of VNL code unwelcome?

If you are not CryptoClub then why the hell are you trying to answer for him??

Seems like you are just trying to spread DISINFO which means Disinformation (look it up ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinformation

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Quote from: hokus_pokus on August 12, 2015, 02:48:56 PM

Nice try, but your DISINFO is not going to work here.

P.S.
You skipped numbers - 1, 2, 5, and 9 - "Presumably" on purpose

Not really sure what DISINFO you mean; can you elaborate please?

"1. Early on you mentioned getting your friend to do a code review on Vanilla...(This was pre ZeroTime back then)"

It's not my friend; I don't really know about this.

"2. You mentioned that your friend looked over the code and could see NO reason why it wasn't original with all the detailed code"

I don't know about this as it wasn't my friend or me who were involved.

"5. Did your friend then look over neutered code on git without even talking to IRC crowd and John...lets just go blind on this...lol"

I don't know about this, but it doesn't really seem like IRC is the place for sensible discussion. I've seen logs and it's just like this thread -- Hypers or zombies caught in a cult of personality rabidly attacking anyone with questions or criticism, shouting "FUD FUD FUD!" with no clue of what they're talking about. And dev isn't much better in that regard.

"9. I will continue to laugh at people like you who want to be crypto famous on twitter and facebook(barf) while standing on the skulls of others"

Doesn't sound like you're very grateful to him for attempting to get a code review organised. Are code reviews of VNL code unwelcome?

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Quote from: brownmon on August 12, 2015, 02:14:49 PM

Quote from: hokus_pokus on August 12, 2015, 01:51:05 PM

Quote from: CryptoClub on August 12, 2015, 01:28:01 AM

This does not make any sense. After talking to John "Who says I am anonymous" Conner, I have sold. I went to trouble to get someone to code review, and there is fake code? It was embarrassing, and I don't even grasp why anyone would do that. This might be the most amazing coin ever, but with him being anon and not wanting anyone else on the team, and being manic depressive, or autistic, or something, it will make things very difficult. Maybe he is a true genius, but these are very bad decisions and they cast too much reasonable doubt about the project. Why would he get more attention after he wasted people's time? That isn't how the world works.

1. Early on you mentioned getting your friend to do a code review on Vanilla...(This was pre ZeroTime back then)
2. You mentioned that your friend looked over the code and could see NO reason why it wasn't original with all the detailed code
3. There was never an official report released by "your friend"
4. Where is there fake code? The ZeroTime branch on git is from like a month ago. We all knew that John was still working on it and uploading content.
5. Did your friend then look over neutered code on git without even talking to IRC crowd and John...lets just go blind on this...lol
6. The ZeroTime code is on testnet right now...and there is a bounty to prove a double-spend attack
7. John has 50,000 lines of ZeroTime code to upload and is currently doing so on git
8. Don't character attack people that you don't know...it's rude
9. I will continue to laugh at people like you who want to be crypto famous on twitter and facebook(barf) while standing on the skulls of others

I'm not CryptoClub, but:

Quote from: hokus_pokus on August 12, 2015, 01:51:05 PM

3. There was never an official report released by "your friend"

Presumably his friend did not bother finishing a report, if he was writing one, as the code was revealed to be 'fake'.

Quote from: hokus_pokus on August 12, 2015, 01:51:05 PM

4. Where is there fake code? The ZeroTime branch on git is from like a month ago. We all knew that John was still working on it and uploading content.

The fake code was on github: https://twitter.com/john_a_connor/status/629905689075253248

Quote from: hokus_pokus on August 12, 2015, 01:51:05 PM

6. The ZeroTime code is on testnet right now...and there is a bounty to prove a double-spend attack

The 'code' is not now on testnet per se, but the binaries. The code is not available.

Quote from: hokus_pokus on August 12, 2015, 01:51:05 PM

7. John has 50,000 lines of ZeroTime code to upload and is currently doing so on git

50,000 lines sounds like a lot, but it should take less than 10 minutes to upload.

Quote from: hokus_pokus on August 12, 2015, 01:51:05 PM

8. Don't character attack people that you don't know...it's rude

Looks to me like John A. Connor's being the rude one. Look at his tweets.

Nice try, but your DISINFO is not going to work here.

P.S.
You skipped numbers - 1, 2, 5, and 9 - "Presumably" on purpose

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Quote from: nextgencoin on August 12, 2015, 02:34:35 PM

Quote from: leetcoiner on August 12, 2015, 02:25:38 PM

too much whales on VNL pumping and dumping playing with alot of BTC's

Even (IF) zero time will be released it is already calculated in price....

really sad that whales fuck up everything

You think a coin that has solved double spending and confirms under a second is valued right at 1m marketcap?

hahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha what whales? The vol is like 50btc meanwhile Eth has a VOL over 5,000btc!

We don't know that VNL has solved these issues yet.

That's not FUD. Take VNL to any researcher in the field and ask them if VNL has solved the double-spending problem and whether zerotime is everything it's claimed to be. Their answers will all be "I don't know because I can't see the code. And isn't there a more detailed whitepaper?"

How is this FUD?

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Quote from: solid12345 on August 12, 2015, 02:39:28 PM

Am I the only one who thinks this fake code thing is overblown?

As I understand it not 100% of the code is fake but just snippets here and there, mostly hiding the secret cause to prevent copy/pasters. I see nothing wrong with a dev protecting his work in the initial stages and throwing off copiers, would people prefer it be totally closed source instead?

It's called FUD, vanilla coin gets loads cause people want to buy it, I know weird eh.

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Am I the only one who thinks this fake code thing is overblown?

As I understand it not 100% of the code is fake but just snippets here and there, mostly hiding the secret cause to prevent copy/pasters. I see nothing wrong with a dev protecting his work in the initial stages and throwing off copiers, would people prefer it be totally closed source instead?

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Quote from: leetcoiner on August 12, 2015, 02:25:38 PM

too much whales on VNL pumping and dumping playing with alot of BTC's

Even (IF) zero time will be released it is already calculated in price....

really sad that whales fuck up everything

You think a coin that has solved double spending and confirms under a second is valued right at 1m marketcap?

hahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha what whales? The vol is like 50btc meanwhile Eth has a VOL over 5,000btc!

People have been holding the price down accumulating, that's a fact looking at wallets. A the smart money has been quietly accumulating while FUDing the coin cause they know that this coin has the potential to explode 10x easy.

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Quote from: Jookly on August 12, 2015, 02:04:20 PM

You still seem confused. Let me try once again to clarify. The code can be compiled to run on any of the systems you mentioned originally. I understand your concern is that you want to compile the iOS version so that you know you are getting the correct wallet not a manipulated one. What you seem to not be wanting to accept is that it CAN be compiled on iOS IF you happen to have the ability to do so but this would be a huge pain in the ass. What people actually do in practice is compile things on their workstations for whatever platform and then run it on the respective platform. Nothing that dev does aside from writing a compiler for your platform is going to make the process any easier.

Just to summarize once more, you can go ahead and compile it for whatever hardware you want, on whatever you are able to. The ability to compile it ON a certain device is not a limitation of the code.

OK great, but how is that different to other coins? The graphic claimed that no other cryptocurrency could do this. Another poster in this thread is claiming that he has done this with other coins.

Quote from: Jookly on August 12, 2015, 02:04:20 PM

if you look back the person who runs that twitter took the time to respond to your concerns in this very thread. It's directly above the message of mine you quoted.

OK thanks, I didn't notice that from traumschiff. Would be good if you guys worked with the graphic creator to create and post a more accurate new infographic about VNL's unique features.

I'm having trouble figuring out what the actual real features of this coin so far are, (and I don't trust zerotime yet,) but presumably there is something good happening if Polo are accepting VNL with only 1 confirmation. Would be good if there was some clear info about this out there.

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too much whales on VNL pumping and dumping playing with alot of BTC's

Even (IF) zero time will be released it is already calculated in price....

really sad that whales fuck up everything

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Quote from: hokus_pokus on August 12, 2015, 01:51:05 PM

Quote from: CryptoClub on August 12, 2015, 01:28:01 AM

This does not make any sense. After talking to John "Who says I am anonymous" Conner, I have sold. I went to trouble to get someone to code review, and there is fake code? It was embarrassing, and I don't even grasp why anyone would do that. This might be the most amazing coin ever, but with him being anon and not wanting anyone else on the team, and being manic depressive, or autistic, or something, it will make things very difficult. Maybe he is a true genius, but these are very bad decisions and they cast too much reasonable doubt about the project. Why would he get more attention after he wasted people's time? That isn't how the world works.

1. Early on you mentioned getting your friend to do a code review on Vanilla...(This was pre ZeroTime back then)
2. You mentioned that your friend looked over the code and could see NO reason why it wasn't original with all the detailed code
3. There was never an official report released by "your friend"
4. Where is there fake code? The ZeroTime branch on git is from like a month ago. We all knew that John was still working on it and uploading content.
5. Did your friend then look over neutered code on git without even talking to IRC crowd and John...lets just go blind on this...lol
6. The ZeroTime code is on testnet right now...and there is a bounty to prove a double-spend attack
7. John has 50,000 lines of ZeroTime code to upload and is currently doing so on git
8. Don't character attack people that you don't know...it's rude
9. I will continue to laugh at people like you who want to be crypto famous on twitter and facebook(barf) while standing on the skulls of others

I'm not CryptoClub, but:

Quote from: hokus_pokus on August 12, 2015, 01:51:05 PM

3. There was never an official report released by "your friend"

Presumably his friend did not bother finishing a report, if he was writing one, as the code was revealed to be 'fake'.

Quote from: hokus_pokus on August 12, 2015, 01:51:05 PM

4. Where is there fake code? The ZeroTime branch on git is from like a month ago. We all knew that John was still working on it and uploading content.

The fake code was on github: https://twitter.com/john_a_connor/status/629905689075253248

Quote from: hokus_pokus on August 12, 2015, 01:51:05 PM

6. The ZeroTime code is on testnet right now...and there is a bounty to prove a double-spend attack

The 'code' is not now on testnet per se, but the binaries. The code is not available.

Quote from: hokus_pokus on August 12, 2015, 01:51:05 PM

7. John has 50,000 lines of ZeroTime code to upload and is currently doing so on git

50,000 lines sounds like a lot, but it should take less than 10 minutes to upload.

Quote from: hokus_pokus on August 12, 2015, 01:51:05 PM

8. Don't character attack people that you don't know...it's rude

Looks to me like John A. Connor's being the rude one. Look at his tweets.

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Quote from: brownmon on August 12, 2015, 01:51:38 PM

Quote from: Jookly on August 12, 2015, 08:37:27 AM

it is an unofficial twitter with a grammatical error. Who cares? Go ahead and compile it on whatever you want. How is this an issue?

Well there's a lot of misinformation around about VNL and I wanted this cleared up. I didn't know whether it was true or not. Turns out it's not. Also it doesn't even seem that a gramatically-corrected version of the claim would be completely true, from what's been said in this thread.

Doesn't anyone know who runs the @vanillanewsbits twitter so we can get him to clean up these mistakes? Often these kinds of news feeds for altcoins are ran by online friends of the dev or community leaders.

You still seem confused. Let me try once again to clarify. The code can be compiled to run on any of the systems you mentioned originally. I understand your concern is that you want to compile the iOS version so that you know you are getting the correct wallet not a manipulated one. What you seem to not be wanting to accept is that it CAN be compiled on iOS IF you happen to have the ability to do so but this would be a huge pain in the ass. What people actually do in practice is compile things on their workstations for whatever platform and then run it on the respective platform. Nothing that dev does aside from writing a compiler for your platform is going to make the process any easier.

Just to summarize once more, you can go ahead and compile it for whatever hardware you want, on whatever you are able to. The ability to compile it ON a certain device is not a limitation of the code.

if you look back the person who runs that twitter took the time to respond to your concerns in this very thread. It's directly above the message of mine you quoted.

I don't blame you for being cautious or whatever but you are on the edge of seeming to intentionally misunderstand the information being given to you, from my point of view anyway.

hope that helps

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