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legendary
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March 27, 2016, 08:04:42 PM
Trump still needs 498 out of the remaining 944 delegates to win the nomination

If he fails to get the required 52.75% of the remaining delegates... brokered convention!

All that this means is that EITHER the back room enemies of the people select someone that Hitler can and will beat, or that the Repubs let Trump run with it.

So either way, Ex repubs and Ex dems need to be for trump.
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March 27, 2016, 07:04:39 PM
Trump still needs 498 out of the remaining 944 delegates to win the nomination

If he fails to get the required 52.75% of the remaining delegates... brokered convention!
legendary
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March 27, 2016, 05:21:09 PM
Well, I really hate Trump.
But if it's Hillary VS Trump in general, I'll vote Trump without a doubt.

Either we fix this messed up country in 2017 or we need to burn it down so people can wake up.

That's an interesting point of view.

I don't hate him.  But this isn't a personality contest and I'm not looking for "My imaginary friend, the Prez."

A lot of people I have done business with because I knew they would deliver, I did not particularly "like."
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March 27, 2016, 12:14:46 PM
Well, I really hate Trump.
But if it's Hillary VS Trump in general, I'll vote Trump without a doubt.

Either we fix this messed up country in 2017 or we need to burn it down so people can wake up.
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March 27, 2016, 12:14:08 PM
Given voters’ generalized lack of insight into the specifics and overarching desire to be left in the dark about anything that suggests modern geopolitics can’t be summed up as a black and white, West versus everyone, good versus evil, struggle to restore a benevolent American hegemony, candidates must be careful to convey a deep understanding of the issues without confusing a largely ignorant electorate.

That reminds me of a joke from Yes, Prime Minister. Sir Humphrey said to Hacker, all the general public needs to know is "who are the goodies and who are the baddies."

Yeah, I remember that line. Wonder if the clip is on youtube.
legendary
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March 27, 2016, 11:31:02 AM
Given voters’ generalized lack of insight into the specifics and overarching desire to be left in the dark about anything that suggests modern geopolitics can’t be summed up as a black and white, West versus everyone, good versus evil, struggle to restore a benevolent American hegemony, candidates must be careful to convey a deep understanding of the issues without confusing a largely ignorant electorate.

That reminds me of a joke from Yes, Prime Minister. Sir Humphrey said to Hacker, all the general public needs to know is "who are the goodies and who are the baddies."
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March 27, 2016, 08:35:53 AM
Trump: Fighting Assad And ISIS At The Same Time Is "Idiocy;" Allies Are Funding Terrorists

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 03/27/2016 09:02 -0400

When assessing candidates for elected office, foreign policy is perhaps the single most important consideration in an increasingly interconnected world.

That’s especially true in the 2016 race for The White House. While the vast majority of the Americans will remain blissfully ignorant when it comes to the nuances, the electorate generally understands a handful of very basic concepts: 1) Russia is resurgent; 2) ISIS is bad; 3) there are a lot of refugees in Europe and some of them are terrorists; 4) there’s something going on in Syria that is apparently connected to ISIS and refugees; 5) Iran is evil and will probably try to nuke somebody soon; 6) China is getting stronger.

Given voters’ generalized lack of insight into the specifics and overarching desire to be left in the dark about anything that suggests modern geopolitics can’t be summed up as a black and white, West versus everyone, good versus evil, struggle to restore a benevolent American hegemony, candidates must be careful to convey a deep understanding of the issues without confusing a largely ignorant electorate. That will be difficult for Hillary Clinton, a veteran of modern statecraft who knows a thing or two about how complex the world is and how easy it is to screw things up (see Libya).

For Trump, on the other hand, developing a foreign policy platform is much easier. His anti-immigration stance fits perfectly with the events unfolding across Europe and his “knock the hell out of ISIS” line resonates with voters who, no matter how much they distrust the government, would rather focus on whether liberals plan to take their guns or the NSA is monitoring their phone than they would on whether the good folks at Langley might have created the terror groups that now threaten to infiltrate and attack Western targets. Further, having never held elected office, Trump has the luxury of appealing to common sense when assessing things like Syria’s five-year conflict. You needn’t know anything about the Sunni-Shiite divide or about the Alawite government or the Baathists or about Assad’s connections to the IRGC and Hassan Nasrallah’s army to understand that America’s attempts to bring about regime change in the Mid-East have gone horribly awry and that fighting Assad while also fighting the people that are fighting Assad makes absolutely no sense.

In other words, when you have no conception of the nuances, you are free to appeal to common sense and that’s exactly what Trump did when The New York Times sat down with the GOP frontrunner to discuss foreign policy. Here’s the exchange between Trump and David Sanger with regard to Bashar al-Assad and Islamic State’s illicit and highly lucrative oil trafficking business which apparently no one but Russia wants to destroy:

SANGER: One more along the lines of your ISIS strategy. You’ve seen the current strategy, which is, you’ve seen Secretary Kerry trying to seek a political accord between President Assad and the rebel forces, with Assad eventually leaving. And then the hope is to turn all those forces, including Russia and Iran, against ISIS. Is that the right way to do it? Do you have an alternative approach?
 
TRUMP: Well, I thought the approach of fighting Assad and ISIS simultaneously was madness, and idiocy. They’re fighting each other and yet we’re fighting both of them. You know, we were fighting both of them. I think that our far bigger problem than Assad is ISIS, I’ve always felt that. Assad is, you know I’m not saying Assad is a good man, ’cause he’s not, but our far greater problem is not Assad, it’s ISIS.
 
SANGER: I think President Obama would agree with that.
 
TRUMP: O.K., well, that’s good. But at the same time – yeah, he would agree with that, I think to an extent. But I think, you can’t be fighting two people that are fighting each other, and fighting them together. You have to pick one or the other. And you have to go at –
 
SANGER: So how would your strategy differ from what he’s doing right now?
 
TRUMP: Well I can only tell you – I can’t tell you, because his strategy, it’s open and it would seem to be fighting ISIS but he’s fighting it in such a limited capacity. I’ve been saying, take the oil. I’ve been saying it for years. Take the oil. They still haven’t taken the oil. They still haven’t taken it. And they hardly hit the oil. They hardly make a dent in the oil.
 
SANGER: The oil that ISIS is pumping.
 
TRUMP: Yes, the oil that ISIS is pumping, where they’re getting tremendous amounts of revenue. I’ve said, hit the banking channels. You know, they have very sophisticated banking channels, which I understand, but I don’t think a lot of people do understand. You know, they’re taking in tremendous amounts of money from banking channels. That, you know, many people in countries that you think are our allies, are giving ISIS tremendous amounts of money and it’s going through very dark banking channels. And we should have stopped those banking channels long ago and I think we’ve done nothing to stop them, and that money is massive. Massive. It’s a massive amount of money. So it’s not only from oil, David, it’s from also the bank, the bank. It’s through banks. And very sophisticated channels. They call them the dark channels. Very sophisticated channels. And money is coming in from people that we think are our allies.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but that's about the most straightforward, sober assessment of the situation imaginable. However, were Trump to win the national election, he'll quickly discover - and this is exceedingly unfortunate - that common sense simply cannot be the basis for US foreign policy in the modern world.

That is, a principled, upfront approach to geopolitics is what's needed, but thanks to the fact that Washington, through decades of underhanded meddling and clandestine dealings, has woven quite the tangled web, common sense will everywhere and always trip over the lunacy that is US foreign policy. Whether or not Trump can change that is debatable and if he can't, it will be through no fault of his own.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-27/trump-fighting-assad-and-isis-same-time-idiocy-allies-are-funding-terrorists
legendary
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March 27, 2016, 07:06:04 AM
Up Like Trump?

no....

CRAP LIKE TRUMP!

FTFY  OP

Voting Vermin Supreme?
legendary
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March 27, 2016, 12:45:57 AM
Up Like Trump?

no....

CRAP LIKE TRUMP!

FTFY  OP
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March 27, 2016, 12:43:17 AM


Hmm.. 'Staying here for the train wreck. Moving back to europe. Canada is not so bad...'

Funny how none of the replies visualized them running away from the US to mexico... That says a lot about how people really, truly feel about this country...

Funny how you didn't read George Lopez...

Out of the 4 people who listed a destination on this planet, one was Mexico... that's 25%...
legendary
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March 26, 2016, 11:39:53 PM


Hmm.. 'Staying here for the train wreck. Moving back to europe. Canada is not so bad...'

Funny how none of the replies visualized them running away from the US to mexico... That says a lot about how people really, truly feel about this country...


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March 26, 2016, 11:07:43 PM



The list, so far...





 Cool




Im moving my ASS back to Europe.  Cool LOL
legendary
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March 26, 2016, 10:49:58 PM

The list, so far...

https://i.sli.mg/ZxTA6E.jpg


Looks like Canada's also going to need a wall to keep all these fleeing leftists out! Maybe there's some kind of spray that can be used in the interim as a deterrent.

I dunno that Canada has a lot to worry about.  Lots of these Leftists probably have a pretty strong affinity for their parent's basement I would suspect.

legendary
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March 26, 2016, 10:46:34 PM



The list, so far...





 Cool




Looks like Canada's also going to need a wall to keep all these fleeing leftists out! Maybe there's some kind of spray that can be used in the interim as a deterrent.
hero member
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March 26, 2016, 10:43:34 PM

The list, so far...



I'm staying... I'd hate to miss a good train wreck
legendary
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legendary
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March 26, 2016, 10:30:25 PM



The list, so far...





 Cool


legendary
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March 26, 2016, 06:24:45 PM


Trump would consider halting U.S. oil purchases from Saudis: NYT

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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-idUSKCN0WS0NG


Oh ya!  Here's what I'd like Trump to say to the House of Saud:

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Listen up you slimy camel fuckers:  I don't give a fuck about your Wahhabi 'culture.'  Play by my rules or the 'House of Saud' is a shit-stain in the underwear of history.

You don't get to do capital punishment from here forward, and certainly not behead people for 'witchcraft'.  All burkas will be burnt by the end of the week, and I want to see 80% of your women holding drivers licenses and driving their own cars within a month.

Iran will have nukes before you guys.

We'll be buying oil from you for $20/bbr (equiv once we abandon the USD and your treasuries are worthless.)  Tankers are on the way.  Make sure they are filled pronto.

I'll be doing a tour of Saudi Arabia in a month to check up on things.  Make sure you have a good supply delicious pulled pork sandwiches ready.

legendary
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Soon, I have to go away.
March 26, 2016, 06:21:15 PM
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"... We’re not being reimbursed for the kind of tremendous service that we’re performing by protecting various countries. Now Saudi Arabia’s one of them."

What does he mean, does the US provide a paid service? or is he talking about the usual backhanders.
BTW I would never support the Saudis, nor Turkey, nor moderate groups in the middle east, they come back all the time to bite your hands off, and heads off.

Have they not realized yet that foreign policy is not working, and has been like this for years.
Time for change.

Anyhow its the Pentagon that needs fixing first.
legendary
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March 26, 2016, 05:59:39 PM



Trump would consider halting U.S. oil purchases from Saudis: NYT






WASHINGTON Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump told the New York Times he would consider stopping U.S. oil purchases from Saudi Arabia unless the Saudi government provide troops to fight Islamic State.

Trump's comment on Friday was included in a lengthy foreign policy interview published by the newspaper on Saturday and came in response to a question about whether, if elected president, he would halt oil purchases from U.S. allies unless they provided on-the-ground forces against Islamic State.

"The answer is, probably yes," Trump said, according to a transcript.

Trump has said the United States should be reimbursed by the countries it provides protection, even those with vast resources such as Saudi Arabia, a top oil exporter.

"And yet, without us, Saudi Arabia wouldn't exist for very long," Trump told the Times.

"... We’re not being reimbursed for the kind of tremendous service that we’re performing by protecting various countries. Now Saudi Arabia’s one of them."

Trump also named in the interview retired Major General Gary Harrell, Major General Bert Mizusawa and retired Rear Admiral Charles Kubic as additional foreign policy advisors to the five named earlier this week who were criticized as obscure.

Trump has faced questions about his reluctance to reveal who was advising his campaign. He told the Times he was willing to rethink traditional U.S. alliances should he become president.




http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-idUSKCN0WS0NG



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