Topic: Up Like Trump - page 38. (Read 572791 times)

I fell  behind in the thread, been busy a bit. My apologies.

tvb has it right. The media, in general, did a terrible job this particular election. I'm no fan of Trump, but priori the election,  the anti Trump media was too much. If Trump sneezed, it was an article on RawStory. Now, some of it was warranted. I get the pussy grab thing, I thought his chances were shot at that point. I'm still grappling intellectually with how old school, Reagan voting Rebuplicans could have helld their noses to click the switch, but I do get it. The alternative was simply unacceptable to some folks, I totally get that.

Now, I have less nefarious reasons for this. Profit. Where tvb, bit and I differ is attribution of intent. I see profit chasing from the corporations that control the media outlets, rather than an attempt to pay op the masses. I think the psy op happens, inadvertently, but the reason for the season is the money. America tuned in like it never tuned in before. And the media establishment profited. From CNN to Breitbart, people tuned in and clicked in to read the new hijinx everyday, multiple times a day, driving up those ad revenues to record levels for an election. Breitbart was selling fucking hats and shirts, if I recall. It engendered a wave of false patriotism that is saw in 2004 when Obama was elected. The fearmongering, which is really the most profitable industry here in the US, was on full display. Let me ask the community something, it took me a while to notice. When the last time you heard some shit about the Kaardashians? They uses to plaster those vapid bastards over the screen but constantly, they would be half of the clickbait. They would show up in my  general news feeds as well as my business and art feeds.

Whens the last time you heard some shit about Caitlyn?

Exactly.

Maybe it's just me, but everything took a back seat to the election and the subsequent 100 days. This is all they report on now, or tangential shit that pushes a particular political ideology.

Now, let me contrast that with the fact that this is the most "unpresidented' presidency so far, at least here.  There is indeed a lot to report on, on both sides, everything has been in rare form. But the obsession with Trump, it isn't like with Obama. Fox would shit on Obama, and constantly, but otherwise policy didn't make the news like it does today under Trump. People didn't give a fuck. Puff Daddy was dancing around in a cheap ass shirt telling us to 'Vote or Die'. It was Mad Max times.

But just like then, they were monetizing the voters. It's a cycle, really. Corporations and special interest groups make huge contributions to particular politicians and candidates, with the understanding that, if you make it, you will work towards making policy changes that benefit the master. This is the literal definition of politics nowadays. Ideology be damned. It cost money to be on TV, and you generally hope that someone doesn't come into the game with enough cash to fund themselves. They are probably corrupt.

And bit, I don't source anymore because I get tired of being told that a generally accepted news source is "fake". We are all intelligent, I simply need to point. If you need edification, search. That way, your opinions are your own. Due dullegencr is what I'm saying. Also, nothing changes if you don't believe me. I still have bills and shit.

Now, look at the hands that feed Trump. Or, if you perceive none, use my old trick, examine motivations through actions. The tax cuts, the health care,  the immigration policy, the war mongering (i never want to see a war, but, if yoy are goung to pull the thing out, plan to bang) they serve to increase profits in certain sectors dramatically over the next 4 years. Respectively, corps that have incorporated globally to reduce tax footprint, the insurance industry, the private corporations that run the prisons, and the military contractors that make hardware. Research yourself, examine the campaign contributions from these particular industries, and the interactions between lobbying arms or the corps, and Trumps people. It's very interesting. And when you you are done perusing that, look at how those companies are doing as we speak, vs the rest of the market. Again, quite interesting.

Also, see what you can find on Trump, Trump Towers,  and Russian investment, specifically from mafia figures. Nothing important, this is all in the past, but check it out when you can. It ties back into his claim of surveillance by Obama, and it's all very interesting.

Then look at Trump Towers, and some of the very questionable people that have invested in said properties. Oft, they come from despot govs, or are criminally affiliated in an old money/big way.

Which leads me to my final point, something to ponder. Have you considered the role of the drug cartels, the truly large ones, in the political lobbying process? If corps have learned they can buy their policies into being, what would a business do, with no governmental oversight? That's what I think happened here. Russian criminal families (the money is soo much more interesting the the 13 families), the criminal families from all over the globe, they are the new 'Illuminati'. Trump found a novel set of masters, ones we can't percieve so easily.

In my opinion, so the Americans themselves have chosen the one who will rule the country to him better to know what kind of person that is, Therefore if they love him then this is the person who needs them in presidents.

It’s difficult to sum up of what the Frankfurt School of Germany was. Most of following comes from Satan’s Secret Agents: The Frankfurt School and Their Evil Agenda. The Frankfurt School were mostly Germany Jewish scholars, who developed highly provocative and original perspectives on contemporary society and culture, drawing on Hegel, Marx, Nietzsche, Freud, and Weber. The Frankfurt School plotted among themselves to corrupt and disrupt culture and society’s very core principles without an invading army. When Hitler and Nazis came to power, the Institute was closed and its members, by various routes, fled to the U.S.and ended up deeply imbedded at major academic universities across the country such as Columbia, Princeton, Brandeis, Stanford and California at Berkeley.







update= [Powerful institutions, academic universities, oligarchies, and now the U.S. government is bent upon eradicating the kind of institutional forms of society which true human nature demand and require. The persistent erosion of society’s core values open people of weak character and constitution to be recruited, and victims including children to be kidnapped, ritually abused, brainwashed and mind controlled to act as a force for EVIL, a form of evil like the ancient Phrygian Cult of Cybele-Dionysus.]



update II= [The spread of explicit Satanism, through aid and conspiracy of agencies such as Adorno’s Frankfurt School and Tavistock Institute, and their dogmas of “the authoritarian personality” creates clouds of a dark age, and phase of large scale mass organizing and indoctrination in the U.S. Adorno and his Frankfurt School mentor, Arnold Schoenberg, have been identified as these types of clandestine Pan-sexual  SATANISTS, and Kabbalahist Jews.]





Update III = [Tavistock and its Stanford Research Institute created trigger words which then came into general usage around “rock music” and its fans. Trigger words created a distinct new break-away largely young population group which was persuaded by social engineering and conditioning to believe that the Beatles really were their favorite group. All trigger words devised in the context of “rock music” were designed for mass control of the new targeted group, the youth of America.[24]

Adorno was the Frankfurt School and Tavistock’s music critic and master. “His forte was analyzing the psychological and political impact of music on listeners. He was also interested in how new recording technology changed the listening experience. Adorno’s desire for a socialist revolution led him to favor Modernist music that left the listener feeling unsatisfied and dislocated — music that consciously avoided harmony and predictability. He believed that only discord (disharmony) could usher in what Herbert Marcuse would later describe as the “return of the repressed.”[25]

This is another important note about Adorno.  The demonic fiend was without a shadow of a doubt the brains behind the “Beatles” as he held the rights to the music and eventually his estate sold those rights to MICHAEL JACKSON.]





[“MK-ULTRA teams tried to map out the beliefs and insecurities of certain ethnic groups, like Blacks; and social groups, like lower-class inner-city residents; and religious groups like Evangelical Christians. They were building a database of how to manipulate ethnic politics and special interest groups.”]

Yeah it is possible that those things happened.  Maybe it is True Trump took a large payout from Rothschild and had a perfect script written for him.  Along those lines a good question to ask ourselves might be when was the last time there were two evenly matched candidates?  I want to believe that Trump was the maverick outsider...but I must settle for he is human and not satanic.  That said, something changed several weeks ago...that cannot be denied.  So, while the MSM praised Ivanka, and while Trump supporters are being whipsawwed into supporting a war so that greenbitz can tell us how it is based on opinion polls, homogenized reporting and mass hypnosis passing as infotainment...we must remember that most things have been weaponized and the people willing to exploit Trumps weakness have known what they are for a long time... wait for it...   his family!  He trusts anyone in his family.  And Kushner and Bush (Kush) have known that for years.  Ivanka was very young when she met him...

It seems that way to me as well (though I can hardly stand to watch him any more) but wonder how much of that is a figment of my imagination.

I was hopeful that Trump was in a 'sweet spot' where he knew what he was up against and what he was going to need to do, but was also outside enough and careful enough to have no big-time dirt on him.  In retrospect I think that some of the indications of this were fabricated, and as someone who was quite desperate to not have Clinton I was prone to be hopeful.

It now looks to me as though Trump's cover was so deep that most of the media themselves were fooled.  To this day they are only coming to terms with their good fortunes.  This would explain why the fear and loathing for Trump on the part of the mainstream media was so palpable.  It really was real and they really were in a panic!

I considered the above possible (because it would be safer to keep the media in the dark lest they spill the beans) but unlikely because the differential between the skill level of the mainstream media hacks and those entities who were promoting the guy.  In retrospect I now realize what a powerful positive the negativity on the mainstream media front was on me, and probably a lot of people.

Another fairly brilliant trick was to induce the mainstream progressive sheeple into making a big deal about anti-Trump stuff which was blatantly trivial and absurd.  Easy enough to do and no surprise with modern methods and the idiots they are working with.  The trick was that I spent all of my time arguing against these nothingburger assertions and being frustrated at not talking about some of the larger issues.  Basically I (and I suspect a lot of others) spent the election tied up with pointless little nonsense while the important conceptual ideas gathered dust.

it is very possible your comment is true especially if we consider that the Russian s-300 and 400 defenses have "intel" inside!  Iran has refused to order any more since they do not work against Israeli airplanes.. Therefore, your comment and my comment both can be true and Trump is making the best of a bad situation since learning about the N. blackmail.  However, I still reject the concept that USA should settle in with being blackmailed by our "friends".  I say rip off the band aid and get it over with and stop violating international law.   If Trump confronted these parasites he would find cowardly people who beg for their jobs and are completely terrified of being replaced by someone friendly to the USA..

So far, I can not say anything about the new president of America, despite some not-so-popular steps on his part in his decisions that caused indignation on the part of the population, and at the same time I believe that Trump acted in the interests of the country.

Greenbitz pedophilia and drugs are how the government is run in USA.,  and your "admission that you watch regular news means less than nothing if that was possible.  The news can lie to us thanks to executive order under Bush II because the enemy could be watching (LOL)  Hows many times will you ignore requests for actual citations (book, chapter and verse)?  You are simply here to manipulate is my obvious conclusion since by now most normal people would have provided some citation to back up what they are saying.  But your comments are a mash up of news cycle talking points mixed with group think and other garbage.  I cannot take you seriously.  You are probably here to profile me and single me out and any others silly enough to respond to you.  That is the game now...take down the old Trump support base now that he is brain dead on drugs and only a puppet his base can be silently eliminated.  Thanks for playing.  using group psychology and innuendo.  Yawn!

And the answer to why Trump flipped the script is 2 parts.  1) exotic botanical s.  2) N. Blackmail.

His entire countenance, demeanor have changed the last few weeks.  Some one told him who is really "boss"  and MAGA is on hold.  He does not look happy

Nepotism 101

Alex Jones: We Did Not Elect Ivanka Or Jared Kushner To Be President







Alex Jones: We Did Not Elect Ivanka Or Jared Kushner To Be President

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmyoYCT7Ud8


Read more at https://www.prisonplanet.com/alex-jones-we-did-not-elect-ivanka-or-jared-kushner-to-be-president.html.

It's not impossible that a successful person would willingly choose to use the remainder of his/her life to try to preserve what is left of his/her country.  I might (or might not) make the decision to do so if it were viable to try.  Indeed, it's probably the only hope the U.S. has left.  I maintain as I have through the election that there were some reasons to be hopeful for Trump in this regard.  More than most people at least, and much more than anyone else who has run and gotten to a decent level in the last half-century with the possible exception of Perot.  Of course there were also plenty of reasons to be suspicious as well.

I'm resolved to not fall into the trap of what Yuri Bezmenov calls 'demoralization'.  Indeed, I have some growing suspicions that a lot of the 'truthers' and what-not are actively working toward just such a 'demoralization'.

I've just been perusing a document which I'm not supposed to read (which is why I'm doing it) and it outlines an interesting concept.  Actually it outlines many such interesting and precient concepts.  The one which matches here and I think worth considering:


That is just the first such example of  the basic principle I could find in a quick search, and not necessarily the best.  The document is filled with rather amazing things like this.

There seems to be no real dispute that the document was first published around 1900 and written some years prior to that.  That it pre-dates the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia doubtless added to it's mystique.  (Supposedly possession of the document in the Soviet Union was grounds for summary execution.)  There is a suggestion that it is a 'hoax' drafted in no small part to bolster anti-semetism and I would not doubt it.  That does not detract from the fascinating mappings and potential matches to subsequent events, policies, and programs.  If some other entity were trying to 'frame the Jews' or whatever, they at least seem to have provided a roadmap that someone is following.

I mostly got off my ass and read the protocols thing finally due to mention in a supposed whistlblower Ronald Bernard's recent and somewhat compelling interview where 'the protocols' were mentioned in passing.  Some of the translations of the Protocols document seem questionable to me although the two of them I compared were a decent match.  It is logical to assume both that different political sides would translate them differently, and also that an attack on the documents would involve distribution of bogus translations.

Trump tweets draw 'tidal wave of threats'







Read more at http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/27/trump-secret-service-threats-237651.

Germanys 2% alone would surpass russian yearly defense budget. Trump is a clown like all the russian bots here.

Trump said that he will build a wall at the expense of the Mexicans. You believe in it? All States pay a 2% of GDP to Fund NATO. They were paid. You do not forget that NATO is a defensive Alliance, and the Americans themselves attack very often so they are costs and should be more.

Oh man, don't start using logical tools here!
Could it be possible that a Billionaire already using thousands of people through underpaid jobs is not motivated by the objective well being of his country and his population but more by greed of money and power?
How insanely surprising xD

Who told you that he has backtracked from the border wall? He has already started the process to build it, although the finances are not yet clear. And regarding NATO, he has not changed his stance. He is urging the other NATO members to contribute more.

I don't trust the Trump clan, Tillerson, or Mathis.  As per the above, it looks most likely that they are all globalists and sell-outs.

I'm happy to see any evidence that there was anything special vis-a-vis Trump and Kremlin collusion.  Or anything of substance at all for that matter.  Still waiting.  If anything is turned up I'm all for prosecuting it in order to set and/or exercise a legal precedent which should by law apply to all expressions of espionage and treason by anyone on the taxpayer's dime and collusion with any non-American nation-state or entity.

The more I study things, the more it looks like starting back in 1917 the Russians learned all they wish to know about the machinations of those who appear to be really making their move here in the U.S., and that they want to avoid further hassles with that entity which would certainly happen if we fall.  If so, I personally count the Russians to be allies (or at least have a common interest) and implore them to do what they can to help wake us up before it's to late.

All of this was done in order to divert suspicion from himself in relations with the Kremlin. Now when the noise in the U.S. Congress, the verse he was going to meet with Putin. The purpose of the visit Tillerson is to negotiate with Putin on the meeting. Then his actions will change.

Occam's razor indicates that he is/was largely a fraud like all the rest and based his campaigning around what the algorithms told his operatives would resonate with us plebs.

Other possibilities include that he is was more or less genuine when running and is now under duress (e.g., the Zionists have serious dirt on him), or that he is playing opossum and will strike when the moment is right.  Both of these seem to me at this point to be weaker hypothesis.