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April 27, 2017, 11:52:17 AM
It's starting to sound like Trump is backing off a lot of his campaign stances. He's now saying he won't pull out of NAFTA. He already backed off of the border wall and he now says NATO is not obsolete. He once said that China was a currency manipulator and now he is saying they aren't. He seems to be giving up on healthcare even with republicans in power in Congress. What's going on?
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April 27, 2017, 09:55:58 AM
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April 25, 2017, 02:16:26 PM
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Let me.cite a bit for the sake of ease:

December 2016 CIA report....

Problem is, you are not citing anything but the content of an alleged report. You are not citing the report. I'm not even sure it matters if you were.

Everyone's aware that the Demos have obsessively harped on the "Russian angle."

Everyone will agree that the Wikileaks releases, showing the true nature of Hillary and her criminal associates, influenced the election.

But nobody has to agree that the material was given to Wikileaks by the Russians. There does not seem to be evidence for that. You seem to think "someone said it says so in a CIA report" is evidence. It isn't.

I personally find Julian Assauge's story about where the material came from more believable.


Dude, wake the fuck up, man.

I cited Wikipedia, that was clearly stated.

And man, this shit isn't alleged, this is an intelligence report produced by your country. You can not accept the shit, but that does not make it go away. You are free to take the word of an enemy of the state over all intelligence agencies in your country, it speaks to your intellectual stubbornness. I'm not making this shit up. These are the unfortunate facts, I don't want to deal with this shit as much as you.

Remove your fingers from your ears, Spendulus.

Is the entire Intelligence community Democratic?/

I waited to see how this member reacted.. and now I have my answer.  

Greenbitz, the cia report you cite has no credibility.. have you read it?  Did you know it was a repackaged report from several years ago when there was no election taking place?

It was redone with little change to serve a fake news purpose.  So yes our own intelligence agency is making and selling fake news and you bought it.

They can produce such fake news since the smith-bundt act was blocked when the NDAA was reauthorized in concert with executive orders domestically..

..obviously the deep state is pushing the US into a war and Trumps supporters do not want to go


We have some very smart people reading here so please consider posting primary and secondary sources only for review if you wish to be taken seriously.

    Calling names and using social pressure tricks will only make you seem like a deep state shill.  And BTW the term "deep state" is not a term of endearment... never has been... thanks for playing!


A fan! I'm flattered, and I'd blush, but I'm too fucking dark.

I made allusion to multiple sources..Which, of the many, has no credibility? I didn't think anyone here would be 'intellectually resistant' enough to doubt official reports from multiple government agencies, on the same topic, which have all reached the same conclusion. And not pussy ass agencies like the EPA, I'm talking letter agencies that can make you dissappear.

  So you are telling me the multiple reports by multiple agencies have no credibility, and are all based off of old evidence before the election? And if the aim is to see if they interfered in the election, would all the actions in question not have occurred before the election? So, they could, you know, influence it?

See, I don't believe in that deep state shit, at least as y'all do. Hell yes there are agencies that exist to supress public interest, secrecy is required for certain agencies to be able to do their jobs. They are no saints, however. But the idea of some monolithic shadow government controlled by intelligence agencies is some paranoid bullshit. That being the case, every branch of government would have its own version of 'the deep state' instead of just the enforcement arm. The 'deep state' is the military industry complex, it exists to make money and protect the state, in that order. They don't want to turn you gay with flouride, or whatever tin foil poppycock is being sold as news on Breitbart and InfoWars.  

And the hilarious thing is, why would the 'deep state' have an issue with Trump? His policies would lead to the civil unrest that Hillary, Obama and Soros want. Can't move to  a police state if everyone is happy, you need strife to make the policy changes necessary. Kinda like the shitshow 45 has brought to bear.

I used to be into conspiracy theories more than you, I promise you. Then, I woke up.

Wake up.

Edit: Had a few fingers of an AMAZING bourbon, came up with 'Obama, Hillary, Soros and the Jews will form Voltron and take over the planet, ushering in a reign of terror'.

The visual of Big O and H Dog forming the head (I don't know what the fuck Soros looks like, from conservative descriptions, he should.look like Emperor Palpatine, I think) is fucking hilarious to me at the moment.
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April 25, 2017, 01:02:16 PM
Nothing good will. I do not understand how for so many centuries, the Christian community could live in Syria. Or the early Muslims were more peaceful? In any case, it will be hard to live because peace in the middle East will not be a very long time.

Christians have been living in the middle east even before prophet Mohammed began spreading Islam. Syria was like 30% Christian a century ago. Now this percentage has gone below 10%. Lebanon was 70% Christian in 1930. Now it has been decreased to 30%.
The entire middle East is Muslim. If you don't count Israel. I think that every year Christians will be less until will not do. This objectively. Unless of course Christians will not create its autonomy, but then they suffer the fate of Israel.
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April 25, 2017, 12:53:09 PM
.....
Let me.cite a bit for the sake of ease:

December 2016 CIA report....

Problem is, you are not citing anything but the content of an alleged report. You are not citing the report. I'm not even sure it matters if you were.

Everyone's aware that the Demos have obsessively harped on the "Russian angle."

Everyone will agree that the Wikileaks releases, showing the true nature of Hillary and her criminal associates, influenced the election.

But nobody has to agree that the material was given to Wikileaks by the Russians. There does not seem to be evidence for that. You seem to think "someone said it says so in a CIA report" is evidence. It isn't.

I personally find Julian Assauge's story about where the material came from more believable.


Dude, wake the fuck up, man.

I cited Wikipedia, that was clearly stated.

And man, this shit isn't alleged, this is an intelligence report produced by your country. You can not accept the shit, but that does not make it go away. You are free to take the word of an enemy of the state over all intelligence agencies in your country, it speaks to your intellectual stubbornness. I'm not making this shit up. These are the unfortunate facts, I don't want to deal with this shit as much as you.

Remove your fingers from your ears, Spendulus.

Is the entire Intelligence community Democratic?/

I waited to see how this member reacted.. and now I have my answer.  

Greenbitz, the cia report you cite has no credibility.. have you read it?  Did you know it was a repackaged report from several years ago when there was no election taking place?

It was redone with little change to serve a fake news purpose.  So yes our own intelligence agency is making and selling fake news and you bought it.

They can produce such fake news since the smith-bundt act was blocked when the NDAA was reauthorized in concert with executive orders domestically..

..obviously the deep state is pushing the US into a war and Trumps supporters do not want to go


We have some very smart people reading here so please consider posting primary and secondary sources only for review if you wish to be taken seriously.

    Calling names and using social pressure tricks will only make you seem like a deep state shill.  And BTW the term "deep state" is not a term of endearment... never has been... thanks for playing!
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April 22, 2017, 09:07:41 AM
.....
Let me.cite a bit for the sake of ease:

December 2016 CIA report....

Problem is, you are not citing anything but the content of an alleged report. You are not citing the report. I'm not even sure it matters if you were.

Everyone's aware that the Demos have obsessively harped on the "Russian angle."

Everyone will agree that the Wikileaks releases, showing the true nature of Hillary and her criminal associates, influenced the election.

But nobody has to agree that the material was given to Wikileaks by the Russians. There does not seem to be evidence for that. You seem to think "someone said it says so in a CIA report" is evidence. It isn't.

I personally find Julian Assauge's story about where the material came from more believable.


Dude, wake the fuck up, man.

I cited Wikipedia, that was clearly stated.

And man, this shit isn't alleged, this is an intelligence report produced by your country. You can not accept the shit, but that does not make it go away. You are free to take the word of an enemy of the state over all intelligence agencies in your country, it speaks to your intellectual stubbornness. I'm not making this shit up. These are the unfortunate facts, I don't want to deal with this shit as much as you.

Remove your fingers from your ears, Spendulus.

Is the entire Intelligence community Democratic?/
legendary
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April 21, 2017, 07:59:01 PM
.....
Let me.cite a bit for the sake of ease:

December 2016 CIA report....

Problem is, you are not citing anything but the content of an alleged report. You are not citing the report. I'm not even sure it matters if you were.

Everyone's aware that the Demos have obsessively harped on the "Russian angle."

Everyone will agree that the Wikileaks releases, showing the true nature of Hillary and her criminal associates, influenced the election.

But nobody has to agree that the material was given to Wikileaks by the Russians. There does not seem to be evidence for that. You seem to think "someone said it says so in a CIA report" is evidence. It isn't.

I personally find Julian Assauge's story about where the material came from more believable.
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April 20, 2017, 08:36:32 PM
Nothing good will. I do not understand how for so many centuries, the Christian community could live in Syria. Or the early Muslims were more peaceful? In any case, it will be hard to live because peace in the middle East will not be a very long time.

Christians have been living in the middle east even before prophet Mohammed began spreading Islam. Syria was like 30% Christian a century ago. Now this percentage has gone below 10%. Lebanon was 70% Christian in 1930. Now it has been decreased to 30%.
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April 20, 2017, 08:31:27 PM
The Russians have never not been a friend of America. They have always supported regimes which fought against the United States. Have you seen any changes? The only change I saw is that the Russian began to allow themselves to interfere in the internal Affairs of America. Before, I don't remember.

Russians have supported secular regimes instead of Islamic fiefdoms. Look at Syria. Bashar al Assad is the last remaining secular ruler in the entire Middle East. Russia is right in supporting him.

Yeah and Assad let's Christians live in Syria in peace... He even protects them...  Can you say that about the militants/ rebels?

The rebels are mostly hardline Islamist factions. Previously, they have even committed genocide against fellow Muslim minorities such as Alawites, Ismailis and Kurds. You can imagine what will happen to the Christians if these people come to power.
Nothing good will. I do not understand how for so many centuries, the Christian community could live in Syria. Or the early Muslims were more peaceful? In any case, it will be hard to live because peace in the middle East will not be a very long time.

I feel as though the sectarian violence has always been a feature of the region; this occurs whenever there are multiple religions /ehtnic groups (for all practical purposes) cohabitating closely. What is new, is the level of violence that can be achieved with modern technologies, and the level of media dissemination each attack can achieve given the state of communications today.  This always happens, essentially. It's just escalating, like everything else does over time.

Also, the radicalization efforts would be localized, social media makes the threat of remote radicalization much more severe.
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April 20, 2017, 02:36:18 PM
The Russians have never not been a friend of America. They have always supported regimes which fought against the United States. Have you seen any changes? The only change I saw is that the Russian began to allow themselves to interfere in the internal Affairs of America. Before, I don't remember.

Russians have supported secular regimes instead of Islamic fiefdoms. Look at Syria. Bashar al Assad is the last remaining secular ruler in the entire Middle East. Russia is right in supporting him.

Yeah and Assad let's Christians live in Syria in peace... He even protects them...  Can you say that about the militants/ rebels?

The rebels are mostly hardline Islamist factions. Previously, they have even committed genocide against fellow Muslim minorities such as Alawites, Ismailis and Kurds. You can imagine what will happen to the Christians if these people come to power.
Nothing good will. I do not understand how for so many centuries, the Christian community could live in Syria. Or the early Muslims were more peaceful? In any case, it will be hard to live because peace in the middle East will not be a very long time.
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April 20, 2017, 02:32:28 PM
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 The mass hypnosis has lost its grip. Republicans+democrats+pope+el chapo+soros, all united to stop TRUMP...

What a beautiful sight...... Or if they will let him win. At all.

Made up, posted by sock puppet on internet.


Yawn.

"Pope & el chapo united to stop Trump."   wtf?

I have an opinion - could be wrong - but my opinion is that the attempts at demonization of Trump are going to fail.

It's worth remembering Trump isn't really even a Republican.

Interestingly, were the tables reversed, there would be no need to mount a giant campaign to demonize Hillary.

She already was a demon.
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April 20, 2017, 02:26:51 PM
....
 The mass hypnosis has lost its grip. Republicans+democrats+pope+el chapo+soros, all united to stop TRUMP...

What a beautiful sight...... Or if they will let him win. At all.

Made up, posted by sock puppet on internet.


Yawn.

"Pope & el chapo united to stop Trump."   wtf?
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April 20, 2017, 09:57:23 AM
....
 The mass hypnosis has lost its grip. Republicans+democrats+pope+el chapo+soros, all united to stop TRUMP...

What a beautiful sight...... Or if they will let him win. At all.

Made up, posted by sock puppet on internet.


Yawn.
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April 20, 2017, 06:51:43 AM
The Russians have never not been a friend of America. They have always supported regimes which fought against the United States. Have you seen any changes? The only change I saw is that the Russian began to allow themselves to interfere in the internal Affairs of America. Before, I don't remember.

Russians have supported secular regimes instead of Islamic fiefdoms. Look at Syria. Bashar al Assad is the last remaining secular ruler in the entire Middle East. Russia is right in supporting him.

Yeah and Assad let's Christians live in Syria in peace... He even protects them...  Can you say that about the militants/ rebels?

The rebels are mostly hardline Islamist factions. Previously, they have even committed genocide against fellow Muslim minorities such as Alawites, Ismailis and Kurds. You can imagine what will happen to the Christians if these people come to power.
The mass hypnosis has lost its grip. Republicans+democrats+pope+el chapo+soros, all united to stop TRUMP...

What a beautiful sight...... Or if they will let him win. At all.
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April 19, 2017, 08:34:51 PM
The Russians have never not been a friend of America. They have always supported regimes which fought against the United States. Have you seen any changes? The only change I saw is that the Russian began to allow themselves to interfere in the internal Affairs of America. Before, I don't remember.

Russians have supported secular regimes instead of Islamic fiefdoms. Look at Syria. Bashar al Assad is the last remaining secular ruler in the entire Middle East. Russia is right in supporting him.

Yeah and Assad let's Christians live in Syria in peace... He even protects them...  Can you say that about the militants/ rebels?

The rebels are mostly hardline Islamist factions. Previously, they have even committed genocide against fellow Muslim minorities such as Alawites, Ismailis and Kurds. You can imagine what will happen to the Christians if these people come to power.
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April 19, 2017, 01:39:51 PM

I knew I would have to try to analyze how 'real' Trump was if he got in.  One thing I resolved to try to keep an eye on was whether the ridiculous psy-ops continued.  Especially the ones where the 'families of the victims' immediately going into the news cycle talking about how they love and forgive the person who supposedly just shot their family member or whatever.

It seemed that there was a hiatus of such psy-ops for several months after Trump, but now they seem to be back with a vengeance.  Here's a reasonably well put together study of the phenomenon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2VnVqlLzPI

Some people are clinging to the hope that Trump is playing a deep game and will eventually burst through to save us.  I don't rule it out as a possibility, and if so, feigning a sell-out posture would be the way to do it, but now believe that it is a very long-shot indeed.  Even if this is true, Trump and his real hidden operatives would hold we who speak out (rather than suck up to him as he gives every appearance of selling out) in high regard.

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April 18, 2017, 09:43:30 PM
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April 18, 2017, 08:53:17 PM

enter blockchain voting...(now if I could just find a forum to post in where the main focus is solving problems using cryptography...)

I don't even think the solution is that complicated.  In fact it is super easy:

 - Severe penalties for cheaters and actual enforcement.

 - Triplicate paper forms with random tamper-proof identifiers.

 - At least two adversarial counting groups (usually dems, repubs.)

 - Counts must match.  If not, the orig held by the voter can be called to see who the cheater is.

The real problem at this point are the computer based tabulations.  It was these databases which were the target for the hackers, or more simply, the cheaters.  It is understood at this point that the mainstream media can put out results make of whole cloth and nobody will question it.  If they do do a re-count the cheaters will be protected (e.g., 2016 Detroit) since actually prosecuting people would threaten the perception of America as a democracy in the minds of the sheep and thus create a 'threat to national security.'



^^^ good suggestions.  Only correction I would make is the 2 party system is basically the same party and the primary systems keeps any third party from ever ending the scam.

Also I would add that the larger human based vote fraud came from county board of election workers who are placed long in advance and were busted running ballots through the machines 12x for hillary and 0x for trump.  This was found during the recount and was the last info that came out before a judge cancelled the entire statewide recount..

interesting side note in the above mentioned instance the county clerk was available to immediately comment as to why his workers needed to run the ballots upto 12x in the case for Hillary and 0x for Trump because he claims the machines are old.  Also interesting to note that this same clerk was asked regularly if his machines were old and for years has never made 1 complaint,... and yet within minutes of the "human error" fraud being busted he for the first time ever states the machines are old and that his workers must have forgot to zero out the tally after they were done rescanning the hillary ballots 12x and the Trump ballot 0x..  LOL
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April 18, 2017, 08:50:13 PM
Estonia already has blockchain voting.

Dubai wants everything government on their blockchain by 2020.

Blockchain Rules.
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April 18, 2017, 08:49:01 PM
You forgot big oil, coal and and the private prison system. They are gonna definitely be made great again, at the expense of all.

Oh. Can't forget rolling back Wall Street regulations.

Make "too big to fail, too big to jail" great again.   Grin

I can't help but think this recent shift to the populist right will be short lived once people realise both Trump and Brexit are clearly analogous to shooting yourself in the foot.  They just found another way to shift power, control and money to the one-percenters and people bought into it thinking things would somehow be different this time.  One day people might realise that there simply aren't career politicians with the interests of the general public at heart.  That's just not how it works.  The turkeys need to stop voting for Christmas.

I don't know why populism would necessarily become unpopular just because we peeps were chumped by an elitist.  Indeed, I drifted away from the Left in part because they increasingly favored elitism and hardly even pay lip-service to populism any more.  Getting chumped only strengthened my preference for real populism.

It is possible for a wealthy person to be a good leader and reluctantly take it upon himself to be one.  Cincinnatus has cities named after him thousands of years after his death because certain kinds of decency are universally valued.  There was at least a hope that Trump would have some ambitions along these lines, but it actually didn't matter much.  As with the Obama/McCain race, the alternative was a known mega-disaster.

The shame of things from my perspective is that I could have saved myself a lot of time and a little money by spending 5 minutes listening to the anti-semite folks and just going with what they say.  I was aware that they guy was ultra-Jewey from Ezra Levant (himself a very proud Jew in the media who, amusingly enough, noted in his reporting that he hoped the goy would not pay attention to his segment.)  I had to just hope that Trump didn't prove to be an Israel First Zionista once in office, but I considered it a distinct possibility and probably the biggest risk.  That's why I always considered Trump to be a coin toss and resolved to wait at least 6 months before solidifying any conclusions.  Took only 2 months.



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