Topic: US warns India over oil deal with Russia - page 4. (Read 737 times)

I personally expected much more than this from the USA and some other governments, they should support Ukraine more than this. India has been a great oil buyer from all countries all over the world, they probably prefer to buy oil from cheaper oil sellers, for example, they buy oil from Iran and some other countries under sanctions because these countries cannot sell their oil normally, however even if India stops selling oil from Rusia there are many other buyers they will keep trading with Russia like China and some other countries who got relations with Russia.

Yes of course, they will since after all Asian countries don't want to get involve with their sanctions trip like making a vote whose side are you. After all, if this war ended do you think they like what they did to the other country because they choose sides? The way I see it, Asian countries don't want to get involve and just want to mind their own business since they have their own problem with their land. NATO has always been like this since in the past I think it's time they should stop interfering.

Ignore the pressure of the United States, India continues to buy cheap oil from Russia, like China and India have never felt afraid of the threat of NATO ally countries, the proof is that until now they still have very good relations with Russia, I am very sure that India and China will continue to make transactions with Russia. Russia, as long as they benefit..

Russia is the largest oil supply country for India, apart from Iran, of course it will be a serious problem if there is no deal with Russia, looking for a replacement that can supply oil in the short term is certainly very difficult especially the trend of oil prices continues to rise, making oil producers Have a strong bargaining value.

We can't go on like this. I mean I get that there could be sides of this war, there could be west vs Russia type of war and everyone could make their own dealings with it.

However, I do not understand the forcing nations to pick a side. I mean if India or any other nation provided soldiers and money and help to Russia to win this war, then I would understand how that could be bad, after all you are helping one nation to hurt the other one, and in that case there is a choosing a side. But, if I want to buy oils from both the USA and Russia at the same time during this period, I should be able to. You can't just warn people for business.

India should tell the US to GTFO. Afterall, the sky high prices for crude oil that we are witnessing right now resulted from Biden's crazy policies such as stopping the Keystone XL pipeline and banning of fracking in federal lands. The US has used crude oil price as a weapon since time immemorial. In oil consuming countries such as India, the Americans have used high crude oil prices as a tool to instigate popular opinion against the ruling government. Being an Indian, I fully support the decision from my government to purchase Russian crude instead of oil from terror-funding gulf states.

Basically I agree with the replies above. The oil embargo won’t work unless all countries stop buying their oil because one country will just sell to another while buying Russian oil since they are not sanctioned. Basically it will all balance out.

I think this is the reason why the oil markets have cooled off. People realized that countries will just buy oil from other countries which don’t sanction Russian oil and in the end everything will be balanced as before. So this is why every country needs to sanctions all of Russian products if they want to have any affect on anything.

What does this wrong side of history mean by the way?

The US will still need India even if India will keep buying gas and oil from Russia. They need India to deter China after Russia so whatever India will do will just have to be done and the US couldn't stop them because they know they are much needed as geographically, India is closer to China.

How is such a move going to put India on the wrong side of history? Buying gas from anyone regardless of who they are means democracy.  
It's the same thing as the US allowing Iran to have a nuclear deal with Russia so that does also puts the US on the wrong side of history?

USA think they could control everyone by using such laws in the present where in the past they are the ones making all of the trouble. I haven't heard any US story that doesn't involve them in any conflict of a country, they are always present to such extents they always interfere to the other countries.

Now, I understand why India choose to make some trade to Russia and I don't have a problem with that since it was called paying some respect. They also gain a discount when dealing with Russia so I don't think there's a political problem with this when all they did was just grabbing the opportunity.

What happens is that at some point the discounts offered by Russia will simply be too big for some countries to ignore and they will begin to buy oil and gas from Russia at prices lower than what they can do on the open market, and empty threats like being on the wrong side of history means little if they can get those discounts for the long term while the rest of the world needs to deal with high prices of oil and the inflation this will bring, so I would not be surprised if many other countries follow India and begin to buy Russian oil.

The U.S. has no authority to dictate international commerce. Any bilateral transactions between countries is not their business. It is not India's responsibility that the U.S. elected a senile leader that paved the way for Ukraine to be invaded. India does not share the westernized vision of green energy with electric cars and solar panels - they need cheap oil. The sanctions just make Putin more desperate which means more dead Ukrainian civilians. By the way, China has no problems trading with Russia despite the pathetic pleas of the Biden administration to China to financially restrict ties.

True, a big question is if the United States has given same response to countries like Germany and Netherlands that still buy or just trying to intimidate India to a decision that they did not take.

There were concerns before the Russian-Ukranian crisis escalated that the US representing NATO did not handle negotiations well enough diplomatically, but went on to issue verbal threats in forms of sanctions to try bully Putin, this didn't turn out well. Why use terms like "a move to the wrong side of history?" for an independent and big country like India, it is provocative and a leader who is hot headed may not react well to such.

Ask yourselves, if it were India that sanctioned Russia, will the US follow suit and obey? some issues are better handled diplomatically, let the other party see reason with you, instead of just dishing out unnecessary threats.

You think logically, but the world has long since ceased to be a place of logic, and has become a place where power and interests rule. The US behaves like a world policeman who reacts to irregularities, but only those that will not harm their personal interests. At one time, they went to war against Iraq and Afghanistan because of what later turned out to be false reports of weapons of mass destruction or that Afghanistan was a world terrorist base.

What is the result of that policy? Both countries have been left in chaos, people are living worse than before, the number of people they have killed is in the hundreds of thousands. As for India, it is no secret that they are great allies of the US, and that their attitudes towards China are almost identical to those of the US - so this warning should be understood as a warning more of a cosmetic meaning than a real threat.

In Europe, we have a case where a country that is in accession negotiations with the EU (Serbia) refuses to impose any sanctions on Russia - and helps them by maintaining an air corridor with Moscow through which Russians travel carefree throughout the EU. I have not read anywhere that the US is protesting against this, although the EU does not have a firm stance on such things either.

Unfortunately, the world is full of hypocrites who say one thing and do something completely different - as well as news that should deceive the public, while on the other hand, everyone does what they want.

Why the US should warn? Don't they believe India is an Independent country? Do they only believe that Ukraine is an independent country? I am not supporting the Russia-Ukraine war anyway. Russia should stop killing people. But not agree with the US, the sanctions given by the USA, not by India or the world. It doesn't necessary to follow the US in every section. India is an independent country and they have the right to take their own decision. They have to think positively for their own nation, not for US or US citizens. The US should stop interfering in every country, it's quite ridiculous they want to role the world.

Its funny how they named it as "United". There is thing called as allies and everyone has it throughout the history. If they can not digest that their ally is friends with their enemy then they should straight away break the alliance rather than shouting from thousand of miles with small chit chats. Come on, if you america is so scared of one nation buying daily needed fuel then whats got into them is mystery. I would say they should do their own work and other countries should mind their own business.

India's strategic aliance can not be broken. If America breaks it today then they know, they will loose big defending wall in the eastern hemisphere.

You may be correct on the narrative because it looks like the three major currencies ($€£) are going to be difficult for transaction for Russia during this war with Ukraine because Asian countries are not very much in cordial transaction with these currencies. So I think these countries may start thinking of how to make less of a meaning with them soon after the war.

"Wrong side of history" hehe. Here comes the US trying to act righteous as if they haven't done a lot of aweful things in the middle east.

Are they trying to pressure smaller countries again?

It wasn't also long ago when the Pakistan Prime Minister lashed out at EU envoys for sending a letter asking him to condemn Russia.

Sorry, what?! Poor people exist all over the world. Do you really think that I just love to pay 50% more for gas, do you really think I love to pay more for electricity, heating, food, ..., while my income doesn't change a bit?
But we have to show we are not selfish, he have to show we care about the others, even if that makes our lives too much harder for a while.

I guess that's not the case for India, right, because they want to feel special.
And the world doesn't owe them anything, the world doesn't have to provide anything. Want me to be harsh, here I am: stop multiplying like rats, start asking more money for your work and elect politicians that do more and steal less. This is something you have to do for yourselves, not waiting the world "care".

Only a senseless mind can think a democratic republic and a communist ideology will team up. It's not only about borders between two countries but also in the military, economic, agriculture sector both countries is rival. Though India is far behind china but with good political leadership it can compete with China with its huge manpower.

I do not think there's any Indian commercial flight going through Ukraine airspace Its been closed for any commercial flight from other countries due to war.

This statement is incorrect. Now the entire civilized world is uniting to punish Russia with economic sanctions as an aggressor that unleashed a war against Ukraine and shelled peaceful cities and killed civilians. This is the largest war of conquest in Europe since the Second World War. But states are only just beginning to understand the danger of what is happening. Therefore, Germany is already joining the sanctions and supporting Ukraine with weapons.
The US has also warned China not to have trade deals with Russia, so the same warning against India is logical. If Putin is allowed to go further, the entire human civilization may suffer. In the 21st century, with current technology, wars of this magnitude are unacceptable.