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Amnesty forces may finally have gone too far
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It’s probably not true that a frog will allow itself to be boiled alive if only the heat is raised slowly enough, but it’s an irresistible image nonetheless.

However, the anti-borders forces — on the left and the right — have counted on such passivity among the public to incrementally erode the American people’s ability to decide who gets to move here from abroad. They have devised endless opportunities to appeal deportation decisions, prevented the implementation of needed control measures, pushed relentlessly to pierce numerical caps, and created strong incentives against government functionaries saying “no” to those who want to come. The motto over the doorway of the immigration office might as well be “It ain’t over til the alien wins.”

President Obama has turned up the heat over the past five years. Using “prosecutorial discretion” as a pretext, he has exempted the vast majority of illegal aliens from the consequences of their actions. He has formally amnestied — without legislative authorization — more than a half-million illegal immigrants who claim to have come here before age 16. He is signaling that sometime this year he will unilaterally, and illegally, amnesty half or more of the roughly 12 million illegal aliens now living in the United States.

More...http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/17/krikorian-hitting-the-boiling-point-over-the-borde/
Why isn't Obama sending Illegals to states where there's vulnerable dems up for reelection?
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What the heck? You think there wouldn't be any need for IT if the government didn't give out hand outs?

There is a need of IT. Just not as extravagant as we have today with so many idle mind using search engine, online movie/song service, social networking site and chat application.

What

The IT sector would be around no matter what, lol. (1) There's no correlation between idle time and IT services as companies need IT services even more than "idle minds." (2) There's no correlation between government handouts and "idle minds" (unless you count bureaucrats as "idle minds") because inflation. All the services you listed would be popular with or without wellfare that's silly. If anything gets hurt by loss of welfare, then its stuff like cigarettes.
legendary
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What the heck? You think there wouldn't be any need for IT if the government didn't give out hand outs?

There is a need of IT. Just not as extravagant as we have today with so many idle mind using search engine, online movie/song service, social networking site and chat application.
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In a theoretical 100% free market Immigrants should add value.

However we're not in anything close to a 100% free market. In any situation in which people are getting out from the government more than they're putting in, then clearly immigrants remove value. Which, by definition is true, because the government is borrowing money. However, its especially true for those illegal immigrants who don't pay taxes.

Even in an "almost free market", and if all immigrants paid taxes, a percentage-based tax rate with government aid provided to the poor would mean that poor immigrants would detract, not add, value.
True and unfortunately for nearly this entire round of immigration, it's mostly people that will go on welfare and all the other services. It used to be that the man of the household would pack a bag and some money to go to another country and bust his ass working so he could afford to bring his family over some years down the line. For the most part, it is no longer the case plus this bending over backwards giving all the freebies when normal Americans are hurting and paying these bills is downright out of hand.

The entire IT sector spring up to support and manage the welfare state. So, anyone working in the IT sector isn't really adding any value also using the definition here.

What the heck? You think there wouldn't be any need for IT if the government didn't give out hand outs?
legendary
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In a theoretical 100% free market Immigrants should add value.

However we're not in anything close to a 100% free market. In any situation in which people are getting out from the government more than they're putting in, then clearly immigrants remove value. Which, by definition is true, because the government is borrowing money. However, its especially true for those illegal immigrants who don't pay taxes.

Even in an "almost free market", and if all immigrants paid taxes, a percentage-based tax rate with government aid provided to the poor would mean that poor immigrants would detract, not add, value.
True and unfortunately for nearly this entire round of immigration, it's mostly people that will go on welfare and all the other services. It used to be that the man of the household would pack a bag and some money to go to another country and bust his ass working so he could afford to bring his family over some years down the line. For the most part, it is no longer the case plus this bending over backwards giving all the freebies when normal Americans are hurting and paying these bills is downright out of hand.

The entire IT sector spring up to support and manage the welfare state. So, anyone working in the IT sector isn't really adding any value also using the definition here.
legendary
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In a theoretical 100% free market Immigrants should add value.

However we're not in anything close to a 100% free market. In any situation in which people are getting out from the government more than they're putting in, then clearly immigrants remove value. Which, by definition is true, because the government is borrowing money. However, its especially true for those illegal immigrants who don't pay taxes.

Even in an "almost free market", and if all immigrants paid taxes, a percentage-based tax rate with government aid provided to the poor would mean that poor immigrants would detract, not add, value.
True and unfortunately for nearly this entire round of immigration, it's mostly people that will go on welfare and all the other services. It used to be that the man of the household would pack a bag and some money to go to another country and bust his ass working so he could afford to bring his family over some years down the line. For the most part, it is no longer the case plus this bending over backwards giving all the freebies when normal Americans are hurting and paying these bills is downright out of hand.
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In a theoretical 100% free market Immigrants should add value.

However we're not in anything close to a 100% free market. In any situation in which people are getting out from the government more than they're putting in, then clearly immigrants remove value. Which, by definition is true, because the government is borrowing money. However, its especially true for those illegal immigrants who don't pay taxes.

Even in an "almost free market", and if all immigrants paid taxes, a percentage-based tax rate with government aid provided to the poor would mean that poor immigrants would detract, not add, value.
legendary
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One in Six Say Immigration Most Important U.S. Problem

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PRINCETON, NJ -- With thousands of undocumented immigrant minors crossing the nation's southern border in recent months, the percentage of Americans citing immigration as the top problem has surged to 17% this month, up from 5% in June, and the highest seen since 2006. As a result, immigration now virtually ties "dissatisfaction with government," at 16%, as the primary issue Americans think of when asked to name the country's top problem.

Stat chart at link: http://www.gallup.com/poll/173306/one-six-say-immigration-important-problem.aspx
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Smugglers Operate in Plain Sight Across the River from Roma, TX
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ROMA - Smugglers are operating in plain view and during the day along the Mexican side of the Rio Grande across the border from Roma.

A CHANNEL 5 NEWS crew watched as the smugglers blew up rafts, took payments and sent men floating across the river.

The smugglers threatened the news crews.

Dozen of vehicles circled the river bank on the Mexican side all day. Many of the vehicles had Texas license plates.

Less than a mile away, it was business as usual at Riverview Plaza.

"We feel just as safe as we used to feel. Roma is a very safe, tranquil community," business owner Fernando Pena said.

Pena said he hasn't noticed an uptick in crime.

Customers at the shopping center were divided about safety in the region.

"I let the law enforcement take care of it, because it's not safe," one shopper said.

The man didn't want to show his face for fear of retaliation. He said smugglers have become increasingly bold.

The man said he is grateful for increased Texas Department of Public Safety patrols.

Roma Police Lt. Rafael Aguirre also is grateful for the extra help from DPS.

"The influx of immigrants in our town, and others in the Valley, is nothing new. It's been around for years," Aguirre said.

CHANNEL 5 NEWS cameras witnessed only men trying to cross the border.

Many of the scouts were young boys and teens. The CHANNEL 5 NEWS crew tried to speak with some of them, but they would only say they are affiliated to the Gulf cartel.
Obama's offering more job opportunities for Mexican drug cartel members than he is getting the government out of the way and allowing business to thrive in America to create better jobs.

Video at link: http://www.krgv.com/news/smugglers-operate-in-plain-sight-across-the-river-from-roma/
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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/july_2014/most_voters_want_to_send_latest_illegal_immigrants_home_asap

Most Voters Want to Send Latest Illegal Immigrants Home ASAP
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Most voters don’t want any of the young illegal immigrants who’ve recently arrived here housed in their state and say any legislation passed by Congress to deal with the problem should focus on sending them home as soon as possible.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 59% of Likely U.S. Voters believe the primary focus of any new immigration legislation passed by Congress should be to send the young illegal immigrants back home as quickly as possible. Just 27% say it should focus instead on making it easier for these illegal immigrants to remain in the United States. Fourteen percent (14%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Advocates for the illegal immigrants argue that they are flooding into the country to escape violent situations in their home countries, but just 31% of U.S. voters think they are coming here now for their own safety. Most voters (52%) believe they are coming here for economic reasons. Seventeen percent (17%) are not sure.
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Exclusive: Feds Struggling to Cope With Medical ‘Breakdown’ at the Border



The federal government is so overwhelmed by the current tide of migrants crossing the border it can’t provide basic medical screening to all of the children before transporting them – often by air – to longer-term holding facilities across the country, ABC News has learned.

The director of refugee health in the federal Health and Human Services Department “has identified a breakdown of the medical screening processes at the Nogales, Arizona, facility,” according to an internal Department of Defense memo reviewed by ABC News. The “breakdown” a systemic failure of the handoff of these children between CBP and HHS.

Inside the government, officials are sounding alarms, fearing that they and their teams who come in contact with the sick children face potential exposure to infectious diseases from chicken pox to influenza, including rare cases of H1N1, more commonly called swine flu.

Two unaccompanied children were flown from Nogales to California despite having 101-degree fevers and flu-like symptoms*, according to the Department of Defense memo. Those children had to be hospitalized.

The memo said pointedly that officials in charge of moving the immigrants from Border Patrol processing centers to Health and Human Services facilities are “putting sick [fevers and coughing] unaccompanied children on airplanes inbound for [Naval Base Ventura County] in addition to the chicken pox and coxsackie virus cases.”

The document said three other kids were in the ICU at local hospitals in California, and two of them were diagnosed with strep pneumonia.

Less than a week later, that same Ventura Naval Base suffered an outbreak of pneumonia and influenza among the unaccompanied minors inside the shelter.

“Preliminary reports indicate that several unaccompanied minors in the shelter had become ill with what appears to be pneumonia and influenza,” according to a statement from the Administration for Children and Families at Health and Human Services.

HHS told ABC News the children were supposed to be screened for sickness before leaving the Border Patrol screening centers.

“When the children arrive at U.S. border stations,” the ACF statement read, “they are screened for health problems and given medical treatment if needed.”

But, according to the memo ABC News reviewed, “Curi Kim [the HHS director of the Division of Refugee Health] has identified a breakdown of the medical screening processes at the Nogales, Arizona, facility.  The  [unaccompanied children] were initially screened and cleared upon entry into that facility with no fever or significant symptoms.  They were not however re-screened and cleared for travel and placement at a temporary shelter.”

While confirming to ABC News the outbreak occurred, HHS would not respond to inquiries about the DOD memo showing sick children were knowingly sent to Naval Base Ventura prior to the outbreak.

“My biggest concerns are with the health of these children,” said Richard Besser, ABC News’ chief health and medical editor. “They are victims going through incredibly stressful circumstances and some will have health issues that need to be treated. Some come from countries that don’t vaccinate against pneumonia or meningitis. They need those vaccines.  Some come from countries where it is flu season. They need that vaccine, too. The big health risks are among these children, not to our communities.”

Once kids are in HHS custody they receive exams and vaccinations, and are screened for tuberculosis, according to ACF,  but more serious illnesses such as meningitis and polio are of little concern for causing an outbreak.

“Children from this region of the world participate in comprehensive childhood vaccination programs, similar to the United States, and are generally well protected from most vaccine-preventable diseases,” ACF said in a statement.

Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras each have rates of vaccination against preventable illnesses such as polio, tuberculosis, measles and pertussis consistent with the United States, according to the World Health Organization.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/07/exclusive-feds-struggling-to-cope-with-medical-breakdown-at-the-border/

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*regular commercial airline. NOT some military airplane...

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BIG UPDATE— Baptist Child and Family Services Withdraws Bid for Palm Aire Resort


Due to backlash the charity received after the story was posted on The Drudge Report, Baptist Child and Family Services withdrew it’s bid for the Palm Aire Resort.

The charity said it was disappointed and that the resort would have been perfect for the illegal alien children.



http://youtu.be/YjtI3HQ1gH8

Good, I bet Baptist preachers from across the country were going to town on this branch. I heard one call into the Michael Savage show earlier all pissed about it.
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BIG UPDATE— Baptist Child and Family Services Withdraws Bid for Palm Aire Resort


Due to backlash the charity received after the story was posted on The Drudge Report, Baptist Child and Family Services withdrew it’s bid for the Palm Aire Resort.

The charity said it was disappointed and that the resort would have been perfect for the illegal alien children.



http://youtu.be/YjtI3HQ1gH8




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FEDS TO OPEN $50 MILLION RESORT FOR ILLEGAL CHILDREN – Complete With Tennis Courts, Sauna & Pools




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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/07/16/criminalizing-homeless-no-camping-laws/12723745/

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Garcetti Convening With Nonprofits To Shelter Undocumented Children In LA

Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti has convened with nonprofit groups to shelter undocumented immigrant children in L.A. while they await court hearings on whether they can remain in the United States.

KCAL9′s Bobby Kaple reports Garcetti said at a forum Tuesday the Department of Health and Human Services reached out to him about the possibility as federal authorities grapple with where to place undocumented children, fueling an ongoing debate about the nation’s immigration policies, which have led to rallies in Murrieta and across the Southland this month.

“Before you get partisan, before you tell me where you are on immigration, these are children. As a father, who are we as Americans if we do not step forward first?” Garcetti asked, noting, “I see this as not just a moral issue but as a practical one.”

Homeless activist Ted Hayes, who has lived in L.A. for three decades, opposes the idea, insisting there are American kids on city streets who need help first.

“It’s kind of a slap in the face to U.S. citizens,” Hayes said. “It’s embarrassing. It’s hurtful. Because it’s like a father saying that he loves children outside of the family more than he loves his own.”

“We feel for them,” Hayes continued. “We feel their pain. But we are feeling pain of our own children first.”

Garcetti’s office says he has convened with a group of nonprofits that could take the children in while they await their hearings. The mayor also says no city resources would be used in the event the children are moved to L.A.

“These kids who are isolated, alone. Maybe are doing the right thing, maybe have made mistakes. Forget all that first,” Garcetti said. “Let’s get them some place safe and secure. Let’s get them legal representation, which is what this country has always stood for.”

A timetable has not been set.

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/07/15/garcetti-convening-with-non-profits-to-shelter-undocumented-children-in-la/

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Hundreds of cities fight back against 'invasion'


A massive protest scheduled for July 18 and 19 across the United States is aimed at stopping the influx of Central American children flooding across the border, and more than a dozen smaller community protests already have played roles in stopping the children from being brought there.

Citizens in Westminster, Maryland; Oracle, Arizona; Vassar, Michigan; Greece, New York, and many other places have blocked the importation of illegal aliens into their communities through public protests, letters and official resolutions from elected leaders.

Radio host Rush Limbaugh led his show Tuesday with stories about the successful pushback against the illegals going on across America.

“Here’s what you do not know,” he said.  “There are towns all over America standing up to this invasion, just like they did in Murrieta, California.  You’re not hearing about it, however, and I am here to tell you why you’re not hearing about it.  Westminster, Maryland, is a town standing up to it, just like Murrieta, California, did. Oracle, Arizona, is standing up to it.

“In Nebraska they’re gonna stand up to it when they find out. The governor is fit to be tied,” Limbaugh continued.  “Upper Michigan, same thing. There are towns all over America standing up to this.  There are protests happening, but they’re not being covered.”

But the mother of all protests promises to be Friday and Saturday. It’s dubbed the National Day of Protesting Against Immigration Reform, Amnesty & Border Surge, and it’s gaining support by the hour, said William Gheen, president of the Americans for Legal Immigration PAC and one of 11 sponsors. The main organizers are Gheen’s ALIPAC, James Neighbors of Overpasses For America and Paul Arnold of a new group called Make Them Listen.

“Right now it’s looking like we’ll have a little more than 300 protest rallies large and small across the country. Our goal is to unify Americans of all races, political parties and walks of life against the Obama-inspired illegal immigrant invasion,” Gheen said. “At last count we had 257 communities signed up, but that was two hours ago. We’re expecting more than 300 and updating the event list every two hours.”


Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/07/hundreds-of-cities-fight-back-against-invasion/#vr3bXcAF7F8zfLxD.99

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BREITBART TEXAS WITNESSES SKELETON OF ILLEGAL MIGRANT, DEATH TOLL RISES


FALFURRIAS, Texas—The death march through Brooks County, Texas claimed the life of yet another illegal immigrant. A human skull and the decomposed skeletal remains are all that is left of a person who decided to come to this country illegally. A total of 42 bodies have been found this year in the desert-like ranch fields surrounding the town of Falfurrias.
The body was reported by another illegal immigrant who had been captured the day before. A search of the field, located on the northern portions of the Cage Ranch by Border Patrol agents found the decomposed body under a mesquite tree not far from the natural gas pipeline being constructed through the western portions of Brooks County.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/07/15/Breitbart-Texas-Witnesses-Skeleton-of-Illegal-Migrant-Near-Falfurrias


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TSA ALLOWING ILLEGALS TO FLY WITHOUT VERIFIABLE ID, SAYS BORDER PATROL UNION


MCALLEN, Texas—Illegal aliens are being allowed to fly on commercial airliners without valid identification, according to the National Border Patrol Council (NBPC). “The aliens who are getting released on their own recognizance are being allowed to board and travel commercial airliners by simply showing their Notice to Appear forms,” NBPC’s Local 2455 Spokesman, Hector Garza, told Breitbart Texas.
“This is not the CBP [Customs and Border Protection] or another federal agency renting or leasing an aircraft, these are the same planes that the American public uses for domestic travel,” said Garza. “This just adds insult to injury. Not only are we releasing unknown illegal aliens onto American streets, but we are allowing them to travel commercially using paperwork that could easily be reproduced or manipulated on any home computer. The Notice to Appear form has no photo, anyone can make one and manipulate one. They do not have any security features, no watermark, nothing. They are simply printed on standard copy paper based on the information the illegal alien says is the truth.”
Spokesman Garza continued, “We do not know who these people are, we often have to solely rely on who they say they are, where they say they came from, and the history they say they have. We know nothing about most of them, ICE releases them into the American public, and now they are boarding aircraft at will with a simple paper document that anyone can easily alter or reproduce themselves.”

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/07/11/Exclusive-TSA-Allowing-Illegals-to-Fly-Without-Verifiable-ID-Says-Border-Patrol-Union

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Why bother pay taxes and get all your ducks in order in life when you can travel for free, without any IDs, with free food and accommodation thanks to other people's money?

 
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