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Topic: USA is getting adversely affected by Immigrants - page 6. (Read 13281 times)

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Disturbing photo up there.

Their own country is so bad that they need to be risk their life to come here?
legendary
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Recent U.S. immigration policies were created with little consideration for their adverse impact upon America. Certainly, there was no consideration for their environmental consequences. They were designed to produce cheap labor, expanded markets, increased church membership, and warm feelings in the hearts of a few Political Action Committees and foundations. They were NOT designed to promote the well-being of America or of the world. In the future, we must change course if we are to stop the decline in our standard of living and the increase in our impact upon the global environment.


"Recent U.S. immigration policies were created"... Created by whom?


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Loads and loads of people from across the globe are immigrating to America for different purposes.. Their aims and purposes are getting fulfilled but America is actually getting destroyed..
Some adverse affects are as below :
- Americans are losing their job
- There has been an increase in crime, pollution and traffic congestion
- Erosion of culture
- Over-utilization of resources such as electricity, gas, food, etc
- Loss in form of remittance

You are free to debate, confirm on\off any of the combinations above..

Immigrants, legal immigrants are who built the USA or any country. Illegal immigration coming just for using  and abusing any societies social network, not just in the US, is what will doom a country eventually.









http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/06/19/Media-Gets-Disappointing-Look-at-TX-and-AZ-Immigrant-Detention-Centers

http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/deadly-diseases-crossing-border-with-illegals/

http://www.businessinsider.com/immigration-border-crisis-photos-2014-6

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While I am completely against illegal immigration, and believe immigration control should be enforced...

Loads and loads of people from across the globe are immigrating to America for different purposes.. Their aims and purposes are getting fulfilled but America is actually getting destroyed..
Some adverse affects are as below :
- Americans are losing their job

[sarcasm] You mean like the farm jobs and janitorial jobs that everyone wants but can't get? You're right, I just can't get a job cleaning toilets and I'm angry at immigrants for taking that away from me! [/sarcasm] If you're speaking of highly skilled professionals arriving on work visas, they are an insignificantly small percentage of overall immigration.

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- There has been an increase in crime, pollution and traffic congestion



Factually incorrect on crime. Crime has decreased in the past 10 years, here are the stats to prove it: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/violent-crime/violent-crime

As for pollution and traffic congestion, where is your evidence that immigration is even a correlation, much less a cause?

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- Erosion of culture


As others have said, I assume you are Native American, therefore this was almost completely accomplished 100 years ago.

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- Over-utilization of resources such as electricity, gas, food, etc


Over utilization? I'm not aware of a shortage of any of these resources in the US and they all require payment for use.

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- Loss in form of remittance


The amount of money sent overseas by immagrants is dwarfed by the US governments international aid sent abroad. Focus your attention on reducing foreign aid if you really care about the economic impact of this.


Overall, typical xenophobic drivel. I would much rather live in a world where people are free to move around the globe and offer their skills wherever they are desired (and paid in BTC of course  Wink )



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Having young and hungry people that arrive in your country to work hard, do unpleasant jobs to feed their family create wealth and confort for both the immigrants and the natives


This is true if the young and hungry create value and not leeching off the government or join an organized crime syndicate.
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The USA is a nation of immigrants. Even immigrants in the USA complain about immigrants. It just seems to be what they do. People here in the UK say they want to leave because there are too many immigrants, and by leaving, they become immigrants. It seems that every immigrant wants to be the last immigrant.
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Recent U.S. immigration policies were created with little consideration for their adverse impact upon America. Certainly, there was no consideration for their environmental consequences. They were designed to produce cheap labor, expanded markets, increased church membership, and warm feelings in the hearts of a few Political Action Committees and foundations. They were NOT designed to promote the well-being of America or of the world. In the future, we must change course if we are to stop the decline in our standard of living and the increase in our impact upon the global environment.
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The current high rate of immigration into the United States of America has adverse environmental impacts upon America, and upon the world as a whole. As an example consider the impact of a typical family of seven, immigrating from a country where their owning a car was highly unlikely. When they come to America they are likely to acquire cars (0.76 cars per family member). For every mile they drive, they pollute and deplete resources that could have been relatively unaffected had they continued their prior lifestyle. The act of border crossing enables them to make lifestyle changes that adversely affect the environment; by becoming Americans they adopt the consumption and pollution patterns of the world's most environmentally destructive lifestyle.

This is a wrong argument. The American citizens should reduce their environmental impact first. The United States comes first in per capita Carbon-di-oxide emission (measured at around 17 tons per year). Don't they have the responsibility to rehabilitate the people from Tuvalu and Nauru, who have become homeless as a result of global warming?
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The current high rate of immigration into the United States of America has adverse environmental impacts upon America, and upon the world as a whole. As an example consider the impact of a typical family of seven, immigrating from a country where their owning a car was highly unlikely. When they come to America they are likely to acquire cars (0.76 cars per family member). For every mile they drive, they pollute and deplete resources that could have been relatively unaffected had they continued their prior lifestyle. The act of border crossing enables them to make lifestyle changes that adversely affect the environment; by becoming Americans they adopt the consumption and pollution patterns of the world's most environmentally destructive lifestyle.
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Having young and hungry people that arrive in your country to work hard, do unpleasant jobs to feed their family create wealth and confort for both the immigrants and the natives
legendary
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The US has always been a country of immigration.
The problem is not with immigration. The problems in most of the countries nowadays (the US included) are caused by the omnipresent cultural marxism.

Times have changed. What occurred two centuries ago can't go on now, without any consequences. Right now the American policy is to punish the legal immigrants and to encourage the illegal ones. That is wrong.
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Well hello there!
Every american is an immigrant. The so called "pilgrim fathers" were nothing else than European immigrants.
Can you say bingo?

I'm pretty sure the Native American's where pretty bummed out at the adverse affects of the pale-faces diseased meat, flea infected blankets, and complete annihilation of their primary source of food, clothing and shelter as well.
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The US has always been a country of immigration.

The problem is not with immigration. The problems in most of the countries nowadays (the US included) are caused by the omnipresent cultural marxism.
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Poor people have always bread like rabbits, the big difference is that 80 years ago the biggest group that died were kids, today it's old people.

Poor people don't always breed like rabbits. For example, Moldovia is one of the poorest countries in the world, and the birth rate there is like 1.2 children / woman. On the otherhand, the birth rate for the richest country in the world (Qatar) is around 6 children / woman (only for citizens).
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I blame the welfare state (wrought by selfishness and political pandering) and erosion of a free market, otherwise immigrants would add value. America is destroying herself. Sorry if I don't go more in-depth on substantiating this opinion.

Can you elaborate on what you mean though by 'erosion of culture'? Culture is a dynamic idea.

This.

Immigrant in the early days (18th to early 20th century) add value to the country. And they don't breed like rabbits.

Personal responsibility and saving were encouraged.


Not so any longer. Seen people abuse the marriage system, family relation to get their entire family into US. They take more than they give because of subsidy and freebie. And they abuse the credit system and commit tax fraud with no consequence.


Poor people have always bread like rabbits, the big difference is that 80 years ago the biggest group that died were kids, today it's old people.
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I think you should look at I believe the Alabama law, and its effects after it was implemented.
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this happens to any number one country, weather its america or something else in the future
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Exactly, but to ignorant racists immigrants (or 'illegals' as he likes to call them) are always the biggest or most pressing problem, you know, just cos they don't like them and need somebody to blame etc.

A culture is on the bottom of the food chain for a reason.

Any country accepting culture with problems with open arm is inviting all the problems which the culture can not solved in their homeland while giving them a free ticket to breed like there is no tomorrow.

Do you really want to turn a modern advance society we (and our ancestors) all work so hard for into a welfare queen land?
 
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Exactly, but to ignorant racists immigrants (or 'illegals' as he likes to call them) are always the biggest or most pressing problem, you know, just cos they don't like them and need somebody to blame etc.
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But illegal immigration is putting a further drain. 

It's like worrying about a paper cut on your finger after your legs have been blown off.
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