Topic: USA PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS 2020: Michael Moore says Trump on course to win ! - page 3. (Read 970 times)

What was the most Hillary was ahead in the polls against Trump? Was it a larger lead than 14 at any given point?

CNN did a poll post Trump COVID and it's about what we expect.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/06/politics/cnn-poll-biden-trump-2020-election/index.html

Biden's leading by 14. Since we're about a month away, that's still enough time for the shock factor of Trump getting COVID to wear down which might bring national polling a bit closer but obviously Trump still has a lot of ground to make up.

I did not know that 2016 brought in just 10,000 mail voters yet over 1 million have voted so far and counting. For the sake of clarity to avoid allegations of corruption from either side it would all be about the ratio of mail votes that would be counted in Republican held states vs Democratic held states. One side will definitely dispute the other therefore I see this going to court for judges to award the Presidency unless there is a landslide victory for one of them.


EDIT: I just watched a political commentator who mentioned that over 3 million votes have been cast and a further million are being sent out 

Even with the pandemic, they're expecting record setting voter turn out.  Over 1 million people have already voted, at this point in 2016 that number was less than 10k.

Trump will win because he has stepped out with Covid, sort of. While Trump is out, Dr. Scott Atlas is bringing the truth about Covid from the Whitehouse in ways that the CDC can't refute. Covid is barely, if any more dangerous, than the flu. Trump will win because his administration is freeing us all from Covid... but especially from our fear.

Even with the pandemic, they're expecting record setting voter turn out.  Over 1 million people have already voted, at this point in 2016 that number was less than 10k.

The voter turnout is going to be at record low levels for this election. Apart from the COVID 19 pandemic, there are opinion polls which claim that a large part of the American population is not supporting either of the two candidates. Some may go out and vote for third party candidates as a protest, but the vast majority will simply abstain from voting.

On Thursday, investigative journalist Max Marin walked into a Philadelphia warehouse where election machines are stored - walking around rows upon rows of the devices which apparently had zero security despite this week's headlines about stolen memory sticks.

An investigation into potential election tampering has been launched in Philadelphia after several memory sticks and a laptop used to program voting machines were stolen from a city warehouse, officials confirmed on Wednesday. The laptop belonged to an on-site employee for the company that supplies the machines.

It is unclear when the equipment was stolen, however a Philadelphia Inquirer source says the items vanished last week.

And while City officials said on Wednesday that the theft would not disrupt voting on November 3, they worried behind the scenes that the theft would fuel theories from President Trump and his allies over the integrity of the city's elections.

Perhaps coincidentally, President Trump on Tuesday knocked Philadelphia for allegedly refusing to let poll watchers into voting locations. (The Inquirer says that's false)

City commissioners initially refused to confirm the theft, or that an investigation had been launched, according to the Inquirer - and only did so after the outlet told them that they would be reporting the incident based on sources who were not authorized to discuss it publicly.

As per your own post the writing is clearly on the wall, this one has to go to court for the judges to decide who gets in to the White House unless of course one candidate manages an indisputable landslide win over the other without the mail voting being a major factor....

Keep in mind Trump has been complaining about the 2016 election, ranting about Hillary, voter fraud, etc., for 4 years, even though he won ! So there is no doubt he will do the same for 2020, in fact he's already doing it. That should exclude you from even being a candidate, but alas it isn't written in the constitution that you actually have to accept the election result...

Mail in ballots will favor Joe Biden. There's a bias between democrats and republicans between how they perceive the danger of coronavirus, so more democrats than republicans will be sending in mail in ballots. At this point, I think Trump needs to win in convincing fashion in key swing states to overcome Joe Biden's wave of mail in ballots that'll slowly trickle in after election day, and I don't think it's impossible for Trump to do this, but I think it's unlikely.

On election day, RCP's polling average gave Clinton a ~3pt average lead, and Trump was able to narrowly win by something like 50k votes in 3 swing states. RCP now versus Biden shows the polls are brutal for Trump.

Trump in 2016 was able to walk away with states that Mitt Romney lost in 2012 despite getting fewer votes than Romney in these states. Basically, an even lesser turnout for the Republican nominee in 2016 relative to 2012 yielded state wins for Trump. People absolutely hated Hillary Clinton and did not show up to the polls to vote for her, but Joe Biden's more likeable so I think he'll yield a higher turnout.

So why do you think chances of Trump winning are probably slimmer than in the 2016 election? Even if he wins on the night he could lose when mail votes are counted and the same goes for Biden.

This one will end up in Court...