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legendary
Activity: 3290
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
October 21, 2024, 11:53:34 PM
I find it very admirable that ThePiachu didn't close the site or walk away silently with the coins after all those years. He also could've contacted the requestors and just returned the coins to close the site with clean hands. I'm positively amazed.
After all those years I didn't expect that, and the website doesn't look like it's ever been updated:
We strongly encourage you to pay at least the honest fee, which is a break-even point for GPU miners in relation to block mining.
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 1010
Crypto Swap Exchange
Does that mean the users who "placed an order" for a vanity address paid in Bitcoin years ago, and by now the value of their payment went up a lot?
Yes, to place a work item on the list of available work list, the user who ordered the vanity address had to pay in Bitcoin upfront. The site calculated an amount based on the complexity of the vanity address (I don't know all the details, but I remember that I tried and played with the site back in late 2012 or so, evaluating for fun some vanity addresses of varying complexity just to get a feel what requesters were charged for a comparable order and I solved a not so hard work item and got paid for it when I submitted the split-key solution without much delay).

It wasn't very expensive in 2012, but we all know how the value of Bitcoin changed.

Every few months in the past years I was curious to see if anything changed with the last work items. For years almost nothing happened AFAIR. Out of nostalgia, I'm now a bit excited to read that someone actually tackled some of the last reasonably hard work items.

Congrats to @ddf2020 and chapeau! to @ThePiachu who kept the site alive, likely because some people paid good coins to enlist their vanity address work items for others to solve. I find it very admirable that ThePiachu didn't close the site or walk away silently with the coins after all those years. He also could've contacted the requestors and just returned the coins to close the site with clean hands. I'm positively amazed.

I'm wandering if the users who ordered their vanity address will appreciate the solution.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Received payment for 1iJuniorTV from ThePiachu directly in the amount of 0.01BTC. Smiley
I'm just amazed the site is still active after all those years!

Does that mean the users who "placed an order" for a vanity address paid in Bitcoin years ago, and by now the value of their payment went up a lot?
jr. member
Activity: 56
Merit: 6
And assured that he is working on solving this issue, but he needs some time to do so.
That's likely good news and you may collect your bounty in the end.

Found a solution for Searched pattern: 1iJuniorTV

ThePiachu continues to work on the repair of payments of remuneration through the site, he needs time to resolve this issue! Received payment for 1iJuniorTV from ThePiachu directly in the amount of 0.01BTC. Smiley
jr. member
Activity: 56
Merit: 6
And assured that he is working on solving this issue, but he needs some time to do so.
That's likely good news and you may collect your bounty in the end.

Found a solution for Searched pattern: 1iJuniorTV
I'm curious, do you mind telling us how long you searched for a solution?

What equipment did you use to crunch on this particular problem? Did you search only for this or also for the other available work items?
The search for a solution for this task took 1 month, the modern Nvidia video cards were used several pieces, plus a special search scheme to reduce the time to find the solution! Now I have launched a solution to a solution for another task.
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 1010
Crypto Swap Exchange
And assured that he is working on solving this issue, but he needs some time to do so.
That's likely good news and you may collect your bounty in the end.

Found a solution for Searched pattern: 1iJuniorTV
I'm curious, do you mind telling us how long you searched for a solution?

What equipment did you use to crunch on this particular problem? Did you search only for this or also for the other available work items?
jr. member
Activity: 56
Merit: 6
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You don't provide any details to help you, except that you have some issue and it seems like you don't get the finding bounty.

How about you provide some more details for this split-key solution problem? I don't ask for the solution itself, that should be obvious.

What software did you use?
What command line arguments did you use?
Was the solution automatically submitted or did you submit the solution manually?
What address type did you use to collect the solution bounty (see below)?
Did you get some error message or something similar in your log file when trying to collect the solution bounty?
Did you check that your split-key solution actually produces a correct address prefix?

Did you contact the original creator? When I look into the profile of ThePiachu, the user was last active quite recently: 2024-10-12, 18:16:52 UTC. You can also mention him here, like with @ThePiachu, but seriously provide more details for debugging your problem. Nobody here can read your mind!


I once solved one of the former and way easier work items offered, but that was a very long time ago. The bounty payment came swiftly to my provided legacy payment address.

Did you use a legacy address type (addresses that start with 1...) as I wouldn't expect if the site can handle wrapped segwit or native segwit addresses!?
ThePiachu Confirmed the existence of a problem with the transfer of bitcoins. And assured that he is working on solving this issue, but he needs some time to do so.
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 1010
Crypto Swap Exchange
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You don't provide any details to help you, except that you have some issue and it seems like you don't get the finding bounty.

How about you provide some more details for this split-key solution problem? I don't ask for the solution itself, that should be obvious.

What software did you use?
What command line arguments did you use?
Was the solution automatically submitted or did you submit the solution manually?
What address type did you use to collect the solution bounty (see below)?
Did you get some error message or something similar in your log file when trying to collect the solution bounty?
Did you check that your split-key solution actually produces a correct address prefix?

Did you contact the original creator? When I look into the profile of ThePiachu, the user was last active quite recently: 2024-10-12, 18:16:52 UTC. You can also mention him here, like with @ThePiachu, but seriously provide more details for debugging your problem. Nobody here can read your mind!


I once solved one of the former and way easier work items offered, but that was a very long time ago. The bounty payment came swiftly to my provided legacy payment address.

Did you use a legacy address type (addresses that start with 1...) as I wouldn't expect if the site can handle wrapped segwit or native segwit addresses!?
jr. member
Activity: 56
Merit: 6
Found a solution for Searched pattern: 1iJuniorTV
Problem sending payment. Sad



No new messages since a while, has anyone used it in 2021 ?

The Pool should still be up, haven't heard of anyone complain about it in awhile.
Payments do not work. Sad
newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 2

Won't vanity generators it make it easy for people to steal funds?
No, no!
Let me explain, this is the satoshi's wallet that holds 72 Bitcoin: 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa
I have a VanitySearch and use RTX2060. If I were to try to generate exactly that address, the situation would look like this:
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/06/30/S7Cyo.png

Here you see that hashrate of 951.41 Mkey/s takes 3.37637e+31 years FOR 50% chance to generate that address. Now, multiply 951.41 Mkey/s to whatever number of RTX 2060 GPU you want and then tell me what gives you a hope that by creating a pool, you'll be able to crack addresses. Chances are almost non-existent.


Ok ok! I thought that the vanity pool website was people selling the vanity addresses (which would make it trivial to steal funds!), but I guess they are just showing them off.

I found a good answer here:
https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/3853/can-one-safely-buy-vanity-addresses-from-a-third-party-without-risking-ones-coi
hero member
Activity: 882
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No new messages since a while, has anyone used it in 2021 ?

The Pool should still be up, haven't heard of anyone complain about it in awhile.

Won't vanity generators it make it easy for people to steal funds?
No, no!
Let me explain, this is the satoshi's wallet that holds 72 Bitcoin: 1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa
I have a VanitySearch and use RTX2060. If I were to try to generate exactly that address, the situation would look like this:


Here you see that hashrate of 951.41 Mkey/s takes 3.37637e+31 years FOR 50% chance to generate that address. Now, multiply 951.41 Mkey/s to whatever number of RTX 2060 GPU you want and then tell me what gives you a hope that by creating a pool, you'll be able to crack addresses. Chances are almost non-existent.
newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 2
No new messages since a while, has anyone used it in 2021 ?

The Pool should still be up, haven't heard of anyone complain about it in awhile.

Won't vanity generators it make it easy for people to steal funds?
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
1 Milliiom BTC = $32 Billion usd.
There's not one address holding a million Bitcoin, you'll need to brute-force 20,000 different addresses. There are currently 5,739 addresses holding exactly 50 Bitcoin, and 37,003 addresses holding 50.x Bitcoin (I can imagine many of those addresses have received some dust over the years).

I would refer you to the below picture to help you understand the probability of finding a "random" private key with coin in it:


There are 2^160 possible private keys. For comparison, there are currently approximately 2^26 unspent outputs, however some addresses have multiple unspent outputs.

If a private key was generated randomly, for all intents and purposes, it is not going to be found out via a brute force attack.
full member
Activity: 246
Merit: 102
¿why Not Brute-Force the 1 Million BTC Satoshi Nakamoto address ?
It's much easier to find a new block. Brute-forcing random private keys is just a waste of energy.

1 Milliiom BTC = $32 Billion usd.

$32´000,000,000 usd.

you can buy all the Power plants you want.


when all 21 million coins are mined,
miner reward will be only the transfer fee,


nice hash calculator:
1x RTX3090 less than $8usd. /day.
https://www.nicehash.com/profitability-calculator/nvidia-rtx-3090

less than $2900usd. /year.
$29,000usd. / 10 Years. "without including electric bill increase, coin reward halved, difficulty increase, etc..."

if there is 1 Million Brute-Force miners = $1 BTC each.
vs. Ten years of work to make less money.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
¿why Not Brute-Force the 1 Million BTC Satoshi Nakamoto address ?
It's much easier to find a new block. Brute-forcing random private keys is just a waste of energy.
hero member
Activity: 813
Merit: 1944
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What's your plan with hundreds of bc1qtapr00t addresses?
The problem with vanity addresses is that if you have some unique prefix, then you can be easily identified. But: if there are many people using the same prefix, if there is even some small network using only such prefixes, then it becomes harder. Reusing addresses is a bad idea, because all of them are linked. But if you want to have vanity address and you want to avoid address reuse, then you need many of such addresses, as many as the number of transactions you want to do. If you have some small network where everyone uses "bc1qtapr00t" addresses, then anyone knows that you are a part of such network, but nobody knows who you are or with who you transacted.

My plan is to create mainnet-based test network, where you deposit coins by sending them to bc1qtapr00t, then you can make test transactions inside this network, and then you withdraw your coins by moving them on mainnet. That kind of test coins will be backed 1:1 by BTC, but will have some features that are not present on mainnet. To keep coins inside of this test network, many addresses are needed to avoid address reuse. Vanity addresses are needed for advertising: in this way you can show people that there is for example some network with taproot features.

Taproot was just an example, more features will come, and then there will be no need to mine some test coins again, because you could easily move coins from "bc1qtapr00t" test chain to "bc1qtestnet", just by creating a single BTC transaction. Also, some parts of that chain could be discarded in the future, because when coins will move on BTC, then old coins from that test chain could be removed without causing any problems in full chain validation and initial test chain download.
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 6660
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
i know it takes a trillion years with 1x GPU,
but...
a Pool with million workers..

much more interesting / fun than mining on nicehashminer

Unless some parts or range of these private keys are already known the difficulty is still going to be too high for a million pool workers, I mean it's still 2^256 keys ftw, you might as well find everyone else's private keys along the way and demonstrate the weakness of Secp256k1.
full member
Activity: 246
Merit: 102
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i know it´s a crazy idea, but i can´t resist asking...

¿why Not Brute-Force the 1 Million BTC Satoshi Nakamoto address ?
they are waiting...

i know it takes a trillion years with 1x GPU,
but...
a Pool with million workers..

much more interesting / fun than mining on nicehashminer

Reward is 0 until Private Keys are found..
Reward = coins found / workers worked time.

No login, No registration.
Worker = 1My_BTC_address.worker_name
because there are many Elvis Satoshi Nakamoto Impersonators with Big Teeth Lawyers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_impersonator

must be Tor socks, onion
private/home Proxy also nice.

IF the keys are found, and they have your IP,
there will be million More Elvis Satoshi Nakamoto´s,
and a trillion lawsuits.

IF Satoshi Nakamoto is still alive, in Guantanamo Bay or something,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantánamo_Bay
they will get the Keys,
just needs more motivation.

the owner of the PrvKeys just needs to move the coins to a different wallet,
and all the Brute-Force effort is lost/gone.
No risk for the Owner of the coins, IF still alive and has control of the keys.

Probably there are Secret efforts to BruteForce the keys,
why Not make more competition.?

1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSend
Difficulty: 1.6209E+47
Time: 3.3E+33
3.3 decillion years.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Vanitygen


if we dont start Now, those Decillion years will never end.

another option is the BitFinex / MtGox stolen coins.
same effort but reward is Not as Big & Juicy.

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Related:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/vanitygen-vanity-bitcoin-address-generatorminer-v022-25804
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-claimed-vanity-address-split-key-generator-software-90587
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/vanity-pool-vanity-address-generator-pool-84569
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 2
This really doesn't seem long for a 14 year old laptop and a 6 letter phrase. Isn't it supposed to be more difficult?

Depends on whether you're searching for bc1 or 1 address. bc1 is not case sensitive which greatly contributes to faster times since the program does not have to consider every combination of uppercase and lowercase letter, but a normal 1 search is case sensitive.

Considering that 4-5 characters (+ case sensitive) can be found almost instantly, it's not surprising that 50% of 6-char search space is exhausted in a few days on old hardware. Newer computers have faster cores with more threads and can search the same 50% of space in several hours.



Thank you - this is really a great explanation right here.
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 6660
bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
This really doesn't seem long for a 14 year old laptop and a 6 letter phrase. Isn't it supposed to be more difficult?

Depends on whether you're searching for bc1 or 1 address. bc1 is not case sensitive which greatly contributes to faster times since the program does not have to consider every combination of uppercase and lowercase letter, but a normal 1 search is case sensitive.

Considering that 4-5 characters (+ case sensitive) can be found almost instantly, it's not surprising that 50% of 6-char search space is exhausted in a few days on old hardware. Newer computers have faster cores with more threads and can search the same 50% of space in several hours.

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