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Topic: Vertcoin [VTC][ANN] Segwit Activated | ASIC Resistant Decentralized GPU Mining - page 74. (Read 201382 times)
March 18, 2017, 06:51:28 AM
March 18, 2017, 05:16:45 AM
Which one is 32bit and which one is 64bit Windows version? Or what is the difference between these two versions?
1. vertcoin-i686-w64-mingw32.zip
2. vertcoin-x86_64-w64-mingw32.zip
1. vertcoin-i686-w64-mingw32.zip
2. vertcoin-x86_64-w64-mingw32.zip
1) is 32bit, 2) is 64bit
Thank you.
And what means the w64 in 32bit version?
And also x86 in 64bit version?
I am just asking i would like to understand it
March 18, 2017, 01:14:52 AM
Which one is 32bit and which one is 64bit Windows version? Or what is the difference between these two versions?
1. vertcoin-i686-w64-mingw32.zip
2. vertcoin-x86_64-w64-mingw32.zip
1. vertcoin-i686-w64-mingw32.zip
2. vertcoin-x86_64-w64-mingw32.zip
1) is 32bit, 2) is 64bit
March 17, 2017, 08:36:57 PM
Which one is 32bit and which one is 64bit Windows version? Or what is the difference between these two versions?
1. vertcoin-i686-w64-mingw32.zip
2. vertcoin-x86_64-w64-mingw32.zip
1. vertcoin-i686-w64-mingw32.zip
2. vertcoin-x86_64-w64-mingw32.zip
March 17, 2017, 06:10:33 PM
Thanks for the mining support guys! theres a pretty big chance we might see SegWit activated within a week if you guys keep on mining like this! 
March 17, 2017, 08:23:20 AM
"Please update wallets immediately to avoid losing coins"
I don't understand this part. It's a softfork right?
Are people really losing coins or is it just something to say to make people update?
If that's it, haha pretty creative I guess.
I don't understand this part. It's a softfork right?
Are people really losing coins or is it just something to say to make people update?
If that's it, haha pretty creative I guess.
I think it's just hyperbole to get people to update, but maybe miners could get screwed if they don't update?
Well with wrong code they hard forked their coin the last time.
Everyone had to downgrade.
So I'm asking, is this the Segwit with wrong code & just hardfork because YOLO or is it a cool marketing stunt?
Well after we reach the 75% threshold the new rules will activate and old version blocks will start to be orphaned, so there is a danger of coin loss if you don't upgrade your wallet. This is the release with the correct code.
Softfork means it is backwards compatible with old wallets. So are we hardforking (not compatible with old wallets) instead of softfork now?
Old wallets will continue to sync with the chain and be able to issue transactions but newly generated blocks coming from old wallets (ie blocks with nVersion 4 or less) will no longer be accepted as valid after activation. This is the same behavior as Bitcoin/Litecoin.
But Bitcoin/Litecoin don't advertise with upgrade now otherwise you will loose coins.
What you are saying in ELI5: It is not mandatory to upgrade but recommended. Except for the solo miners and pools.
Normal users (non miners) won't be generating new blocks hence they can stay on old wallets. Why do you give them the suggestion that they will loose coins?
The warning is for everybody. Like James said If exchanges,miners, and pools are using old wallets they will continue to sync with the chain and be able to issue transactions but newly generated blocks coming from old wallets (ie blocks with nVersion 4 or less) will no longer be accepted as valid after activation. This is the same behavior as Bitcoin/Litecoin. In short you could be getting blocks or coins on the old wallet , but if you transfer them to a new wallet they would be rejected, hence how you could loose coins.
Thank you for taking the time to explain. I hear what you are saying but having difficulties to understand.
How come the warning is only for vertcoin users and not for Bitcoin/Litecoin users? Are you saying that if Bitcoin/Litecoin users on old wallet (pre segwit wallet) transfer coins to new wallet (segwit wallet) they could loose coins? I looked it up on https://bitcoincore.org/en/2016/10/27/segwit-upgrade-guide/ and it says:
Quote
Full nodes prevent their users from accepting any blocks that violate any of Bitcoin’s consensus rules. In a soft fork upgrade such as segwit, new rules are added, and any nodes that don’t upgrade won’t know about those new rules. This is not a problem: the segwit soft fork is designed to allow non-upgraded users to continue using Bitcoin the same way they did before the soft fork.
Quote
If you don’t want to upgrade to segwit and you aren’t a miner, you may simply continue using your current full node software. Segwit is implemented as a soft fork, so you don’t need to upgrade. You also don’t need to upgrade any wallets that connect to your full node; they will continue working as they did before (see the wallet section below for details).
I don't think the behaviour is the same for Bitcoin/Litecoin.
It is the same behavior, they just aren't as close as us. From the link you provided under not upgrading :
"However, if you accept transactions with fewer blocks of confirmation (such as a single block or two), please note that after a soft fork activates, there is a small increased risk that full nodes which don’t upgrade will temporarily accept invalid blocks. The situation will resolve itself within a few blocks as upgraded miners continue to enforce the new segwit consensus rules, but there is no guarantee that transactions shown as confirmed in the invalid block will continue to be confirmed in valid blocks."
March 17, 2017, 05:31:58 AM
"Please update wallets immediately to avoid losing coins"
I don't understand this part. It's a softfork right?
Are people really losing coins or is it just something to say to make people update?
If that's it, haha pretty creative I guess.
I don't understand this part. It's a softfork right?
Are people really losing coins or is it just something to say to make people update?
If that's it, haha pretty creative I guess.
I think it's just hyperbole to get people to update, but maybe miners could get screwed if they don't update?
Well with wrong code they hard forked their coin the last time.
Everyone had to downgrade.
So I'm asking, is this the Segwit with wrong code & just hardfork because YOLO or is it a cool marketing stunt?
Well after we reach the 75% threshold the new rules will activate and old version blocks will start to be orphaned, so there is a danger of coin loss if you don't upgrade your wallet. This is the release with the correct code.
Softfork means it is backwards compatible with old wallets. So are we hardforking (not compatible with old wallets) instead of softfork now?
Old wallets will continue to sync with the chain and be able to issue transactions but newly generated blocks coming from old wallets (ie blocks with nVersion 4 or less) will no longer be accepted as valid after activation. This is the same behavior as Bitcoin/Litecoin.
But Bitcoin/Litecoin don't advertise with upgrade now otherwise you will loose coins.
What you are saying in ELI5: It is not mandatory to upgrade but recommended. Except for the solo miners and pools.
Normal users (non miners) won't be generating new blocks hence they can stay on old wallets. Why do you give them the suggestion that they will loose coins?
The warning is for everybody. Like James said If exchanges,miners, and pools are using old wallets they will continue to sync with the chain and be able to issue transactions but newly generated blocks coming from old wallets (ie blocks with nVersion 4 or less) will no longer be accepted as valid after activation. This is the same behavior as Bitcoin/Litecoin. In short you could be getting blocks or coins on the old wallet , but if you transfer them to a new wallet they would be rejected, hence how you could loose coins.
Thank you for taking the time to explain. I hear what you are saying but having difficulties to understand.
How come the warning is only for vertcoin users and not for Bitcoin/Litecoin users? Are you saying that if Bitcoin/Litecoin users on old wallet (pre segwit wallet) transfer coins to new wallet (segwit wallet) they could loose coins? I looked it up on https://bitcoincore.org/en/2016/10/27/segwit-upgrade-guide/ and it says:
Quote
Full nodes prevent their users from accepting any blocks that violate any of Bitcoin’s consensus rules. In a soft fork upgrade such as segwit, new rules are added, and any nodes that don’t upgrade won’t know about those new rules. This is not a problem: the segwit soft fork is designed to allow non-upgraded users to continue using Bitcoin the same way they did before the soft fork.
Quote
If you don’t want to upgrade to segwit and you aren’t a miner, you may simply continue using your current full node software. Segwit is implemented as a soft fork, so you don’t need to upgrade. You also don’t need to upgrade any wallets that connect to your full node; they will continue working as they did before (see the wallet section below for details).
I don't think the behaviour is the same for Bitcoin/Litecoin.
March 16, 2017, 10:03:17 PM
I've listed some bounties for making mining and p2pool setup guides . 400vtc per guide
March 16, 2017, 07:22:42 PM
I'm adding some Hashrate too.
Estimated Percentage SegWit (next period) 75.00%
It won't be long...
Estimated Percentage SegWit (next period) 75.00%
It won't be long...
March 16, 2017, 05:02:34 PM
sending some more hash in the next few days, we may get it to activate soon at this rate
Thanks ! I saw that. That's quite the hashrate you have . How many cards you have ?
only a couple myself, im renting the rest to bump it up a bit. looks like a few other people are today also which is great
You guys are great! Thanks for your support!
March 16, 2017, 04:03:08 PM
sending some more hash in the next few days, we may get it to activate soon at this rate
Thanks ! I saw that. That's quite the hashrate you have . How many cards you have ?
only a couple myself, im renting the rest to bump it up a bit. looks like a few other people are today also which is great
March 16, 2017, 03:55:14 PM
sending some more hash in the next few days, we may get it to activate soon at this rate
Thanks ! I saw that. That's quite the hashrate you have . How many cards you have ?
only a couple myself, im renting the rest to bump it up a bit. looks like a few other people are today also which is great
March 16, 2017, 03:50:19 PM
sending some more hash in the next few days, we may get it to activate soon at this rate
Thanks ! I saw that. That's quite the hashrate you have . How many cards you have ?
March 16, 2017, 03:38:18 PM
sending some more hash in the next few days, we may get it to activate soon at this rate
March 16, 2017, 03:08:26 PM
MAKE VTC GREAT AGAIN
only longterm. Z-familly. SegWit. March 16, 2017, 12:52:48 PM
"Please update wallets immediately to avoid losing coins"
I don't understand this part. It's a softfork right?
Are people really losing coins or is it just something to say to make people update?
If that's it, haha pretty creative I guess.
I don't understand this part. It's a softfork right?
Are people really losing coins or is it just something to say to make people update?
If that's it, haha pretty creative I guess.
I think it's just hyperbole to get people to update, but maybe miners could get screwed if they don't update?
Well with wrong code they hard forked their coin the last time.
Everyone had to downgrade.
So I'm asking, is this the Segwit with wrong code & just hardfork because YOLO or is it a cool marketing stunt?
Well after we reach the 75% threshold the new rules will activate and old version blocks will start to be orphaned, so there is a danger of coin loss if you don't upgrade your wallet. This is the release with the correct code.
Softfork means it is backwards compatible with old wallets. So are we hardforking (not compatible with old wallets) instead of softfork now?
Old wallets will continue to sync with the chain and be able to issue transactions but newly generated blocks coming from old wallets (ie blocks with nVersion 4 or less) will no longer be accepted as valid after activation. This is the same behavior as Bitcoin/Litecoin.
But Bitcoin/Litecoin don't advertise with upgrade now otherwise you will loose coins.
What you are saying in ELI5: It is not mandatory to upgrade but recommended. Except for the solo miners and pools.
Normal users (non miners) won't be generating new blocks hence they can stay on old wallets. Why do you give them the suggestion that they will loose coins?
Well since old wallets don't properly understand the new rules, they are trusting the miners that the chain is valid. Old wallets cannot verify the rules themselves and thus you effectively lose your status as a full node. Thus it opens you up to all kinds of attacks that are possible when you can't fully verify the rules yourself. But yes, objectively speaking it is not mandatory that normal users update, but you potentially risk your coins if you don't.
March 16, 2017, 12:20:41 PM
"Please update wallets immediately to avoid losing coins"
I don't understand this part. It's a softfork right?
Are people really losing coins or is it just something to say to make people update?
If that's it, haha pretty creative I guess.
I don't understand this part. It's a softfork right?
Are people really losing coins or is it just something to say to make people update?
If that's it, haha pretty creative I guess.
I think it's just hyperbole to get people to update, but maybe miners could get screwed if they don't update?
Well with wrong code they hard forked their coin the last time.
Everyone had to downgrade.
So I'm asking, is this the Segwit with wrong code & just hardfork because YOLO or is it a cool marketing stunt?
Well after we reach the 75% threshold the new rules will activate and old version blocks will start to be orphaned, so there is a danger of coin loss if you don't upgrade your wallet. This is the release with the correct code.
Softfork means it is backwards compatible with old wallets. So are we hardforking (not compatible with old wallets) instead of softfork now?
Old wallets will continue to sync with the chain and be able to issue transactions but newly generated blocks coming from old wallets (ie blocks with nVersion 4 or less) will no longer be accepted as valid after activation. This is the same behavior as Bitcoin/Litecoin.
But Bitcoin/Litecoin don't advertise with upgrade now otherwise you will loose coins.
What you are saying in ELI5: It is not mandatory to upgrade but recommended. Except for the solo miners and pools.
Normal users (non miners) won't be generating new blocks hence they can stay on old wallets. Why do you give them the suggestion that they will loose coins?
The warning is for everybody. Like James said If exchanges,miners, and pools are using old wallets they will continue to sync with the chain and be able to issue transactions but newly generated blocks coming from old wallets (ie blocks with nVersion 4 or less) will no longer be accepted as valid after activation. This is the same behavior as Bitcoin/Litecoin. In short you could be getting blocks or coins on the old wallet , but if you transfer them to a new wallet they would be rejected, hence how you could loose coins.
March 16, 2017, 12:01:36 PM
Done. Updated...
March 16, 2017, 11:54:41 AM
Please tell me whether to buy now the coin and whether the pump?
March 16, 2017, 11:54:34 AM
"Please update wallets immediately to avoid losing coins"
I don't understand this part. It's a softfork right?
Are people really losing coins or is it just something to say to make people update?
If that's it, haha pretty creative I guess.
I don't understand this part. It's a softfork right?
Are people really losing coins or is it just something to say to make people update?
If that's it, haha pretty creative I guess.
I think it's just hyperbole to get people to update, but maybe miners could get screwed if they don't update?
Well with wrong code they hard forked their coin the last time.
Everyone had to downgrade.
So I'm asking, is this the Segwit with wrong code & just hardfork because YOLO or is it a cool marketing stunt?
Well after we reach the 75% threshold the new rules will activate and old version blocks will start to be orphaned, so there is a danger of coin loss if you don't upgrade your wallet. This is the release with the correct code.
Softfork means it is backwards compatible with old wallets. So are we hardforking (not compatible with old wallets) instead of softfork now?
Old wallets will continue to sync with the chain and be able to issue transactions but newly generated blocks coming from old wallets (ie blocks with nVersion 4 or less) will no longer be accepted as valid after activation. This is the same behavior as Bitcoin/Litecoin.
But Bitcoin/Litecoin don't advertise with upgrade now otherwise you will loose coins.
What you are saying in ELI5: It is not mandatory to upgrade but recommended. Except for the solo miners and pools.
Normal users (non miners) won't be generating new blocks hence they can stay on old wallets. Why do you give them the suggestion that they will loose coins?
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