"The Truth About Donald Trump, Joe Biden and Ukraine"
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Topic: Vid of Biden admit bribe of Ukrainian Pres. to fire prosecutor investigating son - page 32. (Read 4095 times)
September 27, 2019, 02:42:21 PM
September 26, 2019, 03:36:35 PM
"Video of Joe Biden admitting that he bribed the Ukrainian President with $1 billion dollars to fire lead prosecutor investigating his corrupt son"
https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/alert-video-of-joe-biden-admitting-that-he-bribed-the-ukrainian-president-with-1-billion-dollars-to-fire-lead-prosecutor-investigating-his-corrupt-son-is-being-scrubbed-from-youtube-and-other-social/
https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/alert-video-of-joe-biden-admitting-that-he-bribed-the-ukrainian-president-with-1-billion-dollars-to-fire-lead-prosecutor-investigating-his-corrupt-son-is-being-scrubbed-from-youtube-and-other-social/
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Good find.
How is it that this corrupted scum is not in jail?
Using his office to protect his son's company is fucked up while people in Ukraine are under Russian invasion and desperately needed that loan.
His son is one walking, talking motherfucker so is his father.
And they want to crucify Trump for merely suggesting that American corrupt businessman need to be investigated for corruption. This is fucked up on so many levels.
September 26, 2019, 11:24:10 AM
"I'm leaving in 6-hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you're not getting the money; Well, son of a bitch - got fired."
- Joe Biden https://youtu.be/Q0_AqpdwqK4 @ 52:59
How is there any doubt or debate about what that is?
- Joe Biden https://youtu.be/Q0_AqpdwqK4 @ 52:59
How is there any doubt or debate about what that is?
September 25, 2019, 04:25:59 PM
"Trump says Ukraine call transcripts to be released"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji-lmkWjr_s
"Dem Rep: Biden Needs To Explain His False Claim About Never Talking Overseas Business With His Son"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo-E4AUS6rA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji-lmkWjr_s
"Dem Rep: Biden Needs To Explain His False Claim About Never Talking Overseas Business With His Son"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo-E4AUS6rA
Well the information relating to the Transcripts have some out See here - https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-house-to-release-transcript-of-trumps-ukraine-call-as-impeachment-efforts-begin-11569403803?mod=article_inline
"“The other thing, there’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the attorney general would be great,” Trump said. “Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution, so if you can look into it … It sounds horrible to me.”"
Though this Joe Biden video is very interesting. Though by any chance do they have the new yorker article that they're referencing? Would probably help some of us investigative types look into it further.
Ukranian President is saying this though 'Nobody pushed me' to probe Biden - https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ukraine-president-backs-trump-says-no-pressure-on-biden-probe
September 24, 2019, 05:40:13 PM
Ancient runes found on the Internet predicted this millions and millions of years ago
He also said there was evidence of Russian collusion for 3 years while no evidence was ever presented. Predicting an attempt at impeachment is about as prescient as predicting Democrats are desperate to save their own asses and will go to extreme lengths to smear Trump regardless of the absence of evidence. This is going to end up hurting dems more than Trump.
"Ukraine Will Reopen Corruption Investigation Into Hunter Biden Firm Amid Trump Impeachment Scandal"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOITxt6gsLw
"Democrats Are Walking Right Into Trump's TRAP, NYT Implies Trump WANTS The Impeachment Fight"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ad-kMNNCRI
"Rudy Drops New Bombs: Slams Obama Cabinet 'Pattern Of Corruption'; Claims China 'Bought' Biden" https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rudy-drops-new-bombs-slams-obama-cabinet-pattern-corruption-claims-china-bought-biden
September 24, 2019, 05:16:56 PM
"Trump says Ukraine call transcripts to be released"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji-lmkWjr_s
"Dem Rep: Biden Needs To Explain His False Claim About Never Talking Overseas Business With His Son"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo-E4AUS6rA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji-lmkWjr_s
"Dem Rep: Biden Needs To Explain His False Claim About Never Talking Overseas Business With His Son"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo-E4AUS6rA
September 23, 2019, 02:52:01 AM
Those first few replies aren't an argument and are the debate equivalent of "NO U!"
Is the video still on YouTube or not?
Nope, it is apples to apples.
Definition of "bribe"
"something given or promised in order to improperly influence a person's conduct or decision"
Sure sounds like it meets the definition of bribery to me.
Definition of "bribe"
"something given or promised in order to improperly influence a person's conduct or decision"
Sure sounds like it meets the definition of bribery to me.
Of course it does.
You also used the words "with no finding of wrong doing" after implying the investigation was concluded when nothing of the sort happened.
Was wrong doing found or not?
Incomplete investigations rarely create findings of wrong doing. Investigations remain active until officially closed. Yes a 3 year old murder case would still be considered active until officially closed.
False. "Cold cases" have 2 different statuses:
- open, active
- open, inactive
Perhaps this information would have been investigated if corrupt high level officials such as Biden were not extorting them to not do so.
Wrong. Your timeline of events is off. I went over this already in my first post. Besides I thought it was a bribe. Now its an extortion? Way to up the bullshit ante.
Nice victim blaming.
How SJW of you.
I especially like the part where you claim the intended results of the crime itself is some how evidence of it not happening.
What does this even mean? "Intended results of the crime"? What crime? I didn't know anybody had been accused of a crime other than by the conspiratard media.
Oh plenty will come of this, don't worry cupcake. Biden's legacy is over, and many other high level officials are going to face prosecution. You argue about meaningless peripheral issues all you like. The truth is coming out, and your butt is gong to be so hurt you are going to suffer a prolapse from the sheer force of your head being yanked out of your ass when the news breaks.
Not one shred of this statement will become truth. But I'm quoting it in its entirety for future reference. Not that being proven utterly wrong about something has ever compelled you to admit it in the past.
Way to argue about Youtube, because that is the important part of this information right? You couldn't be struggling to find nits to pick since you can't argue the main points now could you? The investigation was never completed, which is coincidentally the intent of the bribe/extortion in the first place. The fact that Biden's goal was met is not evidence that supports him.
Again, regardless of your desperate semantic dance around peripheral issues, cold case or not, investigations are not over until closed. There is nothing wrong with my timeline as I already explained, because Hunter Biden was receiving payments from this company well before he was on the board. You blaming the target of the threat for complying with demands has nothing to do with SJWs.
If the bribe/extortion was successful, this would have been exactly the desired result, so the fact that the case was not pursued is further evidence of a crime on Biden's part, especially considering that Hunter was previously a suspect and suddenly not. Bribery/extortion is a crime, in addition to whatever corruption Hunter Biden was involved in.
You remember cupcake. Burn it into your memory. I can't wait for you to make yourself scarce when it comes out so you can avoid the large 3 course meal of crow I will have prepared for you just like Flying Hellfish with his Russian collusion delusions.
EDIT: Well, that didn't take very long.
"Giuliani Hits Bidens With New $3 Million "Ukraine-Latvia-Cyprus" Money Laundering Accusation"
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/giuliani-hits-bidens-new-3-million-ukraine-latvia-cyprus-money-laundering-accusation
September 23, 2019, 02:05:12 AM
Those first few replies aren't an argument and are the debate equivalent of "NO U!"
Is the video still on YouTube or not?
Nope, it is apples to apples.
Definition of "bribe"
"something given or promised in order to improperly influence a person's conduct or decision"
Sure sounds like it meets the definition of bribery to me.
Definition of "bribe"
"something given or promised in order to improperly influence a person's conduct or decision"
Sure sounds like it meets the definition of bribery to me.
Of course it does.
You also used the words "with no finding of wrong doing" after implying the investigation was concluded when nothing of the sort happened.
Was wrong doing found or not?
Incomplete investigations rarely create findings of wrong doing. Investigations remain active until officially closed. Yes a 3 year old murder case would still be considered active until officially closed.
False. "Cold cases" have 2 different statuses:
- open, active
- open, inactive
Perhaps this information would have been investigated if corrupt high level officials such as Biden were not extorting them to not do so.
Wrong. Your timeline of events is off. I went over this already in my first post. Besides I thought it was a bribe. Now its an extortion? Way to up the bullshit ante.
Nice victim blaming.
How SJW of you.
I especially like the part where you claim the intended results of the crime itself is some how evidence of it not happening.
What does this even mean? "Intended results of the crime"? What crime? I didn't know anybody had been accused of a crime other than by the conspiratard media.
Oh plenty will come of this, don't worry cupcake. Biden's legacy is over, and many other high level officials are going to face prosecution. You argue about meaningless peripheral issues all you like. The truth is coming out, and your butt is gong to be so hurt you are going to suffer a prolapse from the sheer force of your head being yanked out of your ass when the news breaks.
Not one shred of this statement will become truth. But I'm quoting it in its entirety for future reference. Not that being proven utterly wrong about something has ever compelled you to admit it in the past.
September 23, 2019, 01:29:39 AM
1.This has nothing to do with the veracity of the subject matter.
The "subject matter" is a bullshit headline designed to give right wing conspiratards a hard on. Its basically click bait.
2. If some one "loans" a cop $10,000 to ignore the kilo of cocaine in their backseat, do you think a court of law would see it that way?
Apples and oranges.
Just because he is using taxpayer money to make payoffs and calls it a "loan" doesn't make it any less of a bribe. "loans" are a well documented method of making payoffs by high level organized crime such as the mafia.
Your lack of understanding of the actual pretext and conditions of the loan is not a valid excuse for calling it a "bribe."
3. From your own source:
"There’s little question that the Bidens’ paths in Ukraine held the potential for conflict, and in a tweet last week, Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani said the U.S. should investigate the matter. But what has received less attention is that at the time Biden made his ultimatum, the probe into the company -- Burisma Holdings, owned by Mykola Zlochevsky -- had been long dormant, according to the former official, Vitaliy Kasko.
“There was no pressure from anyone from the U.S. to close cases against Zlochevsky,” Kasko said in an interview last week. “It was shelved by Ukrainian prosecutors in 2014 and through 2015.”"
So as you can see, you are clearly providing yourself a lot of creative license with your claims. The case was "dormant" not concluded, so claims it was concluded finding no wrongdoing is clearly disingenuous.
"There’s little question that the Bidens’ paths in Ukraine held the potential for conflict, and in a tweet last week, Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani said the U.S. should investigate the matter. But what has received less attention is that at the time Biden made his ultimatum, the probe into the company -- Burisma Holdings, owned by Mykola Zlochevsky -- had been long dormant, according to the former official, Vitaliy Kasko.
“There was no pressure from anyone from the U.S. to close cases against Zlochevsky,” Kasko said in an interview last week. “It was shelved by Ukrainian prosecutors in 2014 and through 2015.”"
So as you can see, you are clearly providing yourself a lot of creative license with your claims. The case was "dormant" not concluded, so claims it was concluded finding no wrongdoing is clearly disingenuous.
The investigation wasn't going anywhere. Use of the words "dormant" and "shelved" confirm this. Its like saying a 3 year old cold case murder investigation is still active. That's why I used to words "effectively concluded."
Shokin told me in written answers to questions that, before he was fired as general prosecutor, he had made “specific plans” for the investigation that “included interrogations and other crime-investigation procedures into all members of the executive board, including Hunter Biden.”"
Well that's great, he should have done this while the investigation was still active.
I honestly don't think anything negative is going to come of this for Biden or Trump. I just don't care for bullshit sensationalist headlines like the one you linked. If the referenced video actually does get "scrubbed," then maybe you'll be on to something. Until then, its bullshit.
Those first few replies aren't an argument and are the debate equivalent of "NO U!"
Nope, it is apples to apples.
Definition of "bribe"
"something given or promised in order to improperly influence a person's conduct or decision"
Sure sounds like it meets the definition of bribery to me.
You also used the words "with no finding of wrong doing" after implying the investigation was concluded when nothing of the sort happened. Incomplete investigations rarely create findings of wrong doing. Investigations remain active until officially closed. Yes a 3 year old murder case would still be considered active until officially closed. Perhaps this information would have been investigated if corrupt high level officials such as Biden were not extorting them to not do so. Nice victim blaming. I especially like the part where you claim the intended results of the crime itself is some how evidence of it not happening.
Oh plenty will come of this, don't worry cupcake. Biden's legacy is over, and many other high level officials are going to face prosecution. You argue about meaningless peripheral issues all you like. The truth is coming out, and your butt is going to be so hurt you are going to suffer a prolapse from the sheer force of your head being yanked out of your ass when the news breaks.
September 22, 2019, 09:08:16 PM
Could be true, I wouldn't be surprised.
In my line of thinking, how would someone be able to verify if President Trump had said something or didn't in a confidential call like this. Does someone take notes during this, or is the line recorded for some reason? This is the portion that could help out either side.
In my line of thinking, how would someone be able to verify if President Trump had said something or didn't in a confidential call like this. Does someone take notes during this, or is the line recorded for some reason? This is the portion that could help out either side.
Frankly it is irrelevant. Even if it were true doesn't automatically equate to criminal or immoral activity. Also its not a whistleblower, it is just some one within DHS reporting rumors discovered not even related to his work, making him not a whistleblower under the law. Also there is the small fact that Biden doesn't stand a chance of winning as it is, Trump doesn't need to do this to win and doing such a thing would be counterproductive to his goals. None of these accusations against Trump make any sense at all.
"Democrats DEMAND Trump Impeachment Over Ukraine Scandal, Story BACKFIRES On Democrats Instead"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSt7iXWsoMI
Welp after watching this video and truly digging in, you're without a doubt right TecShare. This is some fucking bullshit.
Biden -- criminal or not in his intentions by doing what he did, but himself in a horrible conflict of interest that should hurt him now.
This whistleblower is bullshit, and even CNN says it.
September 22, 2019, 07:36:36 PM
Could be true, I wouldn't be surprised.
In my line of thinking, how would someone be able to verify if President Trump had said something or didn't in a confidential call like this. Does someone take notes during this, or is the line recorded for some reason? This is the portion that could help out either side.
In my line of thinking, how would someone be able to verify if President Trump had said something or didn't in a confidential call like this. Does someone take notes during this, or is the line recorded for some reason? This is the portion that could help out either side.
Frankly it is irrelevant. Even if it were true doesn't automatically equate to criminal or immoral activity. Also its not a whistleblower, it is just some one within DHS reporting rumors discovered not even related to his work, making him not a whistleblower under the law. Also there is the small fact that Biden doesn't stand a chance of winning as it is, Trump doesn't need to do this to win and doing such a thing would be counterproductive to his goals. None of these accusations against Trump make any sense at all.
"Democrats DEMAND Trump Impeachment Over Ukraine Scandal, Story BACKFIRES On Democrats Instead"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSt7iXWsoMI
September 22, 2019, 07:35:20 PM
Could be true, I wouldn't be surprised.
In my line of thinking, how would someone be able to verify if President Trump had said something or didn't in a confidential call like this. Does someone take notes during this, or is the line recorded for some reason? This is the portion that could help out either side.
In my line of thinking, how would someone be able to verify if President Trump had said something or didn't in a confidential call like this. Does someone take notes during this, or is the line recorded for some reason? This is the portion that could help out either side.
I'm pretty sure there's a whistleblower complaint that made it past DHS which triggered all of this.
September 22, 2019, 07:33:43 PM
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Video of Joe Biden admitting that he bribed the Ukrainian President with $1 billion dollars to fire lead prosecutor investigating his corrupt son is being scrubbed from YouTube and other social media.
1. The video in your article is hosted on YouTube. Guess the DNC or whoever isn't scrubbing very hard.
2. The subject of contention has nothing to do with a "bribe." It has to do with the release of a condition-based loan.
3. The embezzlement case against Burisma Holdings was handed down to the Ukranian state prosecutor, Viktor Shokin in 2014, 2 months before Hunter Biden took a position in the company. The investigation effectively concluded in 2015 with no finding of wrong doing. Shokin wasn't fired until 2016.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-07/timeline-in-ukraine-probe-casts-doubt-on-giuliani-s-biden-claim
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Hunter Biden joined the board in April 2014, two months after U.K. authorities requested information from Ukraine as part of a probe against Zlochevsky related to money laundering allegations. Zlochevsky had been minister of environmental protection under then-President Viktor Yanukovych, who fled to Russia in February 2014 after mass protests.
After the U.K. request, Ukrainian prosecutors opened their own case, accusing Zlochevsky of embezzling public funds. Burisma and Zlochevsky have denied the allegations.
The case against Zlochevsky and his Burisma Holdings was assigned to Shokin, then a deputy prosecutor. But Shokin and others weren’t pursuing it, according to the internal reports from the Ukrainian prosecutor’s office reviewed by Bloomberg.
In a December 2014 letter, U.S. officials warned Ukrainian prosecutors of negative consequences for Ukraine over its failure to assist the U.K., which had seized Zlochevsky’s assets, according to the documents.
Those funds, $23.5 million, were unblocked in 2015 when a British court determined there wasn’t enough evidence to justify the continued freeze, in part because Ukrainian prosecutors had failed to provide the necessary information.
After the U.K. request, Ukrainian prosecutors opened their own case, accusing Zlochevsky of embezzling public funds. Burisma and Zlochevsky have denied the allegations.
The case against Zlochevsky and his Burisma Holdings was assigned to Shokin, then a deputy prosecutor. But Shokin and others weren’t pursuing it, according to the internal reports from the Ukrainian prosecutor’s office reviewed by Bloomberg.
In a December 2014 letter, U.S. officials warned Ukrainian prosecutors of negative consequences for Ukraine over its failure to assist the U.K., which had seized Zlochevsky’s assets, according to the documents.
Those funds, $23.5 million, were unblocked in 2015 when a British court determined there wasn’t enough evidence to justify the continued freeze, in part because Ukrainian prosecutors had failed to provide the necessary information.
It would appear that this Shokin guy was too soft and ineffective in his investigation, which completely contradicts the narrative of Biden Did Bad Thing.
This story is a big bowl of nothing except for the fact that it looks like Trump pushed too hard for a reopening of an investigation into Hunter Biden and got caught in the process.
I mean lets be real, all of us are just going to sit around fighting one another on the subject matter here. None of us are keyed into what really did happeen, and I really doubt anything is ever going to come out of this. Maybe that's just me being cynical here, but yeah.
Biden has some cover, at least -- at least at first. He's able to say that the prosecutor was corrupt, which is true and has been proven.
I guess we'll see in the coming weeks if anything comes out of this. Though I do doubt it.
This is just a Democrat attempt at Russagate 2.0 which will fail even worse than the first time, mark my words. The blow back against the dems hasn't even begun to drop yet over Russiagate. When it all comes out suddenly the last 3 years of insane unending accusations will be clearly demonstrated as a desperate attempt to save their own asses, just like this.
Could be true, I wouldn't be surprised.
In my line of thinking, how would someone be able to verify if President Trump had said something or didn't in a confidential call like this. Does someone take notes during this, or is the line recorded for some reason? This is the portion that could help out either side.
September 22, 2019, 07:30:17 PM
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Video of Joe Biden admitting that he bribed the Ukrainian President with $1 billion dollars to fire lead prosecutor investigating his corrupt son is being scrubbed from YouTube and other social media.
1. The video in your article is hosted on YouTube. Guess the DNC or whoever isn't scrubbing very hard.
2. The subject of contention has nothing to do with a "bribe." It has to do with the release of a condition-based loan.
3. The embezzlement case against Burisma Holdings was handed down to the Ukranian state prosecutor, Viktor Shokin in 2014, 2 months before Hunter Biden took a position in the company. The investigation effectively concluded in 2015 with no finding of wrong doing. Shokin wasn't fired until 2016.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-07/timeline-in-ukraine-probe-casts-doubt-on-giuliani-s-biden-claim
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Hunter Biden joined the board in April 2014, two months after U.K. authorities requested information from Ukraine as part of a probe against Zlochevsky related to money laundering allegations. Zlochevsky had been minister of environmental protection under then-President Viktor Yanukovych, who fled to Russia in February 2014 after mass protests.
After the U.K. request, Ukrainian prosecutors opened their own case, accusing Zlochevsky of embezzling public funds. Burisma and Zlochevsky have denied the allegations.
The case against Zlochevsky and his Burisma Holdings was assigned to Shokin, then a deputy prosecutor. But Shokin and others weren’t pursuing it, according to the internal reports from the Ukrainian prosecutor’s office reviewed by Bloomberg.
In a December 2014 letter, U.S. officials warned Ukrainian prosecutors of negative consequences for Ukraine over its failure to assist the U.K., which had seized Zlochevsky’s assets, according to the documents.
Those funds, $23.5 million, were unblocked in 2015 when a British court determined there wasn’t enough evidence to justify the continued freeze, in part because Ukrainian prosecutors had failed to provide the necessary information.
After the U.K. request, Ukrainian prosecutors opened their own case, accusing Zlochevsky of embezzling public funds. Burisma and Zlochevsky have denied the allegations.
The case against Zlochevsky and his Burisma Holdings was assigned to Shokin, then a deputy prosecutor. But Shokin and others weren’t pursuing it, according to the internal reports from the Ukrainian prosecutor’s office reviewed by Bloomberg.
In a December 2014 letter, U.S. officials warned Ukrainian prosecutors of negative consequences for Ukraine over its failure to assist the U.K., which had seized Zlochevsky’s assets, according to the documents.
Those funds, $23.5 million, were unblocked in 2015 when a British court determined there wasn’t enough evidence to justify the continued freeze, in part because Ukrainian prosecutors had failed to provide the necessary information.
It would appear that this Shokin guy was too soft and ineffective in his investigation, which completely contradicts the narrative of Biden Did Bad Thing.
This story is a big bowl of nothing except for the fact that it looks like Trump pushed too hard for a reopening of an investigation into Hunter Biden and got caught in the process.
I mean lets be real, all of us are just going to sit around fighting one another on the subject matter here. None of us are keyed into what really did happeen, and I really doubt anything is ever going to come out of this. Maybe that's just me being cynical here, but yeah.
Biden has some cover, at least -- at least at first. He's able to say that the prosecutor was corrupt, which is true and has been proven.
I guess we'll see in the coming weeks if anything comes out of this. Though I do doubt it.
This is just a Democrat attempt at Russagate 2.0 which will fail even worse than the first time, mark my words. The blow back against the dems hasn't even begun to drop yet over Russiagate. When it all comes out suddenly the last 3 years of insane unending accusations will be clearly demonstrated as a desperate attempt to save their own asses, just like this.
September 22, 2019, 06:23:21 PM
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Video of Joe Biden admitting that he bribed the Ukrainian President with $1 billion dollars to fire lead prosecutor investigating his corrupt son is being scrubbed from YouTube and other social media.
1. The video in your article is hosted on YouTube. Guess the DNC or whoever isn't scrubbing very hard.
2. The subject of contention has nothing to do with a "bribe." It has to do with the release of a condition-based loan.
3. The embezzlement case against Burisma Holdings was handed down to the Ukranian state prosecutor, Viktor Shokin in 2014, 2 months before Hunter Biden took a position in the company. The investigation effectively concluded in 2015 with no finding of wrong doing. Shokin wasn't fired until 2016.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-07/timeline-in-ukraine-probe-casts-doubt-on-giuliani-s-biden-claim
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Hunter Biden joined the board in April 2014, two months after U.K. authorities requested information from Ukraine as part of a probe against Zlochevsky related to money laundering allegations. Zlochevsky had been minister of environmental protection under then-President Viktor Yanukovych, who fled to Russia in February 2014 after mass protests.
After the U.K. request, Ukrainian prosecutors opened their own case, accusing Zlochevsky of embezzling public funds. Burisma and Zlochevsky have denied the allegations.
The case against Zlochevsky and his Burisma Holdings was assigned to Shokin, then a deputy prosecutor. But Shokin and others weren’t pursuing it, according to the internal reports from the Ukrainian prosecutor’s office reviewed by Bloomberg.
In a December 2014 letter, U.S. officials warned Ukrainian prosecutors of negative consequences for Ukraine over its failure to assist the U.K., which had seized Zlochevsky’s assets, according to the documents.
Those funds, $23.5 million, were unblocked in 2015 when a British court determined there wasn’t enough evidence to justify the continued freeze, in part because Ukrainian prosecutors had failed to provide the necessary information.
After the U.K. request, Ukrainian prosecutors opened their own case, accusing Zlochevsky of embezzling public funds. Burisma and Zlochevsky have denied the allegations.
The case against Zlochevsky and his Burisma Holdings was assigned to Shokin, then a deputy prosecutor. But Shokin and others weren’t pursuing it, according to the internal reports from the Ukrainian prosecutor’s office reviewed by Bloomberg.
In a December 2014 letter, U.S. officials warned Ukrainian prosecutors of negative consequences for Ukraine over its failure to assist the U.K., which had seized Zlochevsky’s assets, according to the documents.
Those funds, $23.5 million, were unblocked in 2015 when a British court determined there wasn’t enough evidence to justify the continued freeze, in part because Ukrainian prosecutors had failed to provide the necessary information.
It would appear that this Shokin guy was too soft and ineffective in his investigation, which completely contradicts the narrative of Biden Did Bad Thing.
This story is a big bowl of nothing except for the fact that it looks like Trump pushed too hard for a reopening of an investigation into Hunter Biden and got caught in the process.
I mean lets be real, all of us are just going to sit around fighting one another on the subject matter here. None of us are keyed into what really did happeen, and I really doubt anything is ever going to come out of this. Maybe that's just me being cynical here, but yeah.
Biden has some cover, at least -- at least at first. He's able to say that the prosecutor was corrupt, which is true and has been proven.
I guess we'll see in the coming weeks if anything comes out of this. Though I do doubt it.
September 22, 2019, 04:48:15 PM
Anyone can post bullshit to youtube. See BADecker constantly posting bullshit videos.
Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrmQsHQcrVc
Youtube sources.
What does this have to do with the validity of the content? Are you arguing that that is not a video of Ukraine Foreign Minister Prystaiko denying Trump pressured them from his own mouth?
https://en.hromadske.ua/posts/trump-did-not-pressure-zelenskyy-we-are-independent-state-prystaiko
September 22, 2019, 04:32:24 PM
Anyone can post bullshit to youtube. See BADecker constantly posting bullshit videos.
Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrmQsHQcrVc
Youtube sources.
September 22, 2019, 04:30:15 PM
Yep, you'll get that evidence any day now... any day...
Not from this administration. It doesn't recognize congressional oversight.
Facts don't require congressional oversight to be revealed, even if your claims were true.
"Ukraine FM Prystaiko On Trump Pressure on Zelenskyy"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCQqpSskeDU
September 22, 2019, 04:20:24 PM
Yep, you'll get that evidence any day now... any day...
Not from this administration. It doesn't recognize congressional oversight.
September 22, 2019, 04:13:08 PM
Just more bullshit to justify holding aid hostage from Ukraine. Of course, this will be an impeachment offense for Trump.
Just more Republican corruption at the highest levels of government.
Just more Republican corruption at the highest levels of government.
Yep, you'll get that evidence any day now... any day...
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