Topic: ✪✪✪ VIRTUAL COIN ✪✪✪ | P2P VIRTUAL MONEY | VC | X11 | ReLaunch: Date Feb 2017 ✪✪ - page 105. (Read 192548 times)
April 17, 2014, 05:38:04 PM
i mined at MinePit. yesterday i logged in and saw about more than 15x coin unconfirmed but now only 15 coin unconfirmed, 5 confirmed.. previous blocks not credited, Block Hash all about "null"....what happened??
April 17, 2014, 05:22:37 PM
We're down 1615 coins from payouts on the wrong blockchain.
Hopefully everything is cool going forwards but that's the problem we're at now.
virtualcoind getbalance ""
-1615.51900222
Hopefully everything is cool going forwards but that's the problem we're at now.
virtualcoind getbalance ""
-1615.51900222
I never thought you can get negative balance.
Pools can and indeed do - it's necessary because the balance is calculated in real time, while effective balance can only be taken from matured and confirmed blocks.
If by some reason the blockchain invalidates the balance in the pool's wallet, then they have a negative balance towards the miners already confirmed shares
That's why if these pools don't get out of this predicament, it's almost impossible to payout any mining being done now, back in the right chain, without first paying all the outbalancing confirmed shares ...
April 17, 2014, 05:19:00 PM
We're down 1615 coins from payouts on the wrong blockchain.
Hopefully everything is cool going forwards but that's the problem we're at now.
virtualcoind getbalance ""
-1615.51900222
Hopefully everything is cool going forwards but that's the problem we're at now.
virtualcoind getbalance ""
-1615.51900222
Total donation collected so far: 903.04997028 VC
MineP.it, please let me know the VC addressof your pool, hope this will help.
April 17, 2014, 05:03:58 PM
We're down 1615 coins from payouts on the wrong blockchain.
Hopefully everything is cool going forwards but that's the problem we're at now.
virtualcoind getbalance ""
-1615.51900222
Hopefully everything is cool going forwards but that's the problem we're at now.
virtualcoind getbalance ""
-1615.51900222
I never thought you can get negative balance.
April 17, 2014, 04:52:24 PM
We're down 1615 coins from payouts on the wrong blockchain.
Hopefully everything is cool going forwards but that's the problem we're at now.
virtualcoind getbalance ""
-1615.51900222
Hopefully everything is cool going forwards but that's the problem we're at now.
virtualcoind getbalance ""
-1615.51900222
April 17, 2014, 04:14:38 PM
Not a bad suggestion.
Everyone please donate small amount, I will also contribute to
VMSeZ4Ay95n8t4UQKQaUGgQqs7JdPzNtj1
It will be used to donate pool op coins & help back pay some users who lost it. Moreover I think 2x reward will more than likely help out as well.
Everyone please donate small amount, I will also contribute to
VMSeZ4Ay95n8t4UQKQaUGgQqs7JdPzNtj1
It will be used to donate pool op coins & help back pay some users who lost it. Moreover I think 2x reward will more than likely help out as well.
If that means Tales gets to pay every outstanding coin, even though they belong to the wrong chain, then it also means I'm getting my coin back anyway!
I'm in for it - just transferred all 5.70997028 VC (tx: cb9206a9b57a71849f6e7d955800ea28bbfd25f3520f2175905bc4642ed19ca4)
Hope others help out too
April 17, 2014, 04:13:03 PM
I request all the pool operators still using old code to pause your site or additional coins mined on that invalid blockchain will be a wastage for users.
April 17, 2014, 04:09:46 PM
Not a bad suggestion.
Everyone please donate small amount, I will also contribute to
VMSeZ4Ay95n8t4UQKQaUGgQqs7JdPzNtj1
It will be used to donate pool op coins & help back pay some users who lost it. Moreover I think 2x reward will more than likely help out as well.
Everyone please donate small amount, I will also contribute to
VMSeZ4Ay95n8t4UQKQaUGgQqs7JdPzNtj1
It will be used to donate pool op coins & help back pay some users who lost it. Moreover I think 2x reward will more than likely help out as well.
April 17, 2014, 04:08:33 PM
You are exactly correct. We aren't seeing a way to repay everybody for the old, invalid blocks at this point. With quite a bit of database work, we may be able to strip out the blocks/payouts after block 1611, but we are still in a large debt to miners either way. Also, sorry for not replying sooner. Our inboxes are exploding at the moment.
Dev, how's about donating 3000 VC to the pool and we'll pretend like this whole thing never happened
LOL, the dev has been outsanding, but I dont't know about that ...
As for me, it's simple:
you will get my hash back right now if you simply clear the balance and null the payout
I just want to be sure I can withdrawal any future gains, that's all.the tx you report is this: 542ab76505d816fabd0930f1939aae3fd18166244af789393e105d654b6ee2d7
v. coinz already paid me all the balance I had due when we first spotted the issues ;P Just dump my part into null and it's fine
PM if you need anything more.
April 17, 2014, 03:47:06 PM
Had outstanding (> block 1611) confirmed balance, tried to cash out, didn't happen
Mailed them for support, still waiting on an answer.
They're on the right chain, but I not sure they'll be able to pay anything mined now until they clear the wrong fork confirmed balances :S
Not sure if I'll jump in and mine with the risk of not getting my coins because of old invalid balance ...
I'm waiting another hour to see if this clears out in a good way.
Meanwhile, v.coinz, despite your efforts, this could be a very tough nail to pull out
I don't see many of us willing to mine if this situation doesn't stabilize - is there anything else you can introduce in the code to better protect against chain forking? I'm not a coder, so I cant really help, but things like hardchecks keep poping out in similar situations with other coins? Does this make sence or is i just noob rubish?Thanks
You are exactly correct. We aren't seeing a way to repay everybody for the old, invalid blocks at this point. With quite a bit of database work, we may be able to strip out the blocks/payouts after block 1611, but we are still in a large debt to miners either way. Also, sorry for not replying sooner. Our inboxes are exploding at the moment.
Dev, how's about donating 3000 VC to the pool and we'll pretend like this whole thing never happened
April 17, 2014, 03:39:50 PM
I see minep.it is on the correct block now. Is there a reason that I only received 2 of the withdrawals from them out of 10? I don't see how that is even possible. The two I received where both in the middle of all the withdrawals.
April 17, 2014, 03:23:53 PM
Just 70 more blocks left before Reward will double 2X.
Make sure you are using version 9.1.3
Make sure you are using version 9.1.3
April 17, 2014, 03:17:20 PM
Please confirm this is correct
Code:
./virtualcoind getblockhash 2917
0000000008879f3bef6fe53ddc0a4fd0fb4c7042d307de7f07e9bc9fec978f3d
If Anyone wants to confirm you are using right blockchain
just run in debug " getblockhash 2917 "
13:16:44
getblockhash 2917
13:16:44
0000000008879f3bef6fe53ddc0a4fd0fb4c7042d307de7f07e9bc9fec978f3d
it should match.
April 17, 2014, 03:16:59 PM
I asked europex to update to the new wallet so they did. What I should have said, was delete all files except wallet.dat and then update the wallet.
https://www.europex.eu/#!coin/btc/vc
2 nodes, 106MH/S & difficulty 3.9.
https://www.europex.eu/#!coin/btc/vc
2 nodes, 106MH/S & difficulty 3.9.
April 17, 2014, 02:50:25 PM
Dev. You mentioned talesfromthescrypt is sync'd. When can I expect the 72VC's I withdrew from them 2 days ago? Thanks.
You coins mined upto 1611 should be safe, they just need to restore, please allow them some time.
April 17, 2014, 02:49:24 PM
Had outstanding (> block 1611) confirmed balance, tried to cash out, didn't happen
Mailed them for support, still waiting on an answer.
They're on the right chain, but I not sure they'll be able to pay anything mined now until they clear the wrong fork confirmed balances :S
Not sure if I'll jump in and mine with the risk of not getting my coins because of old invalid balance ...
I'm waiting another hour to see if this clears out in a good way.
Meanwhile, v.coinz, despite your efforts, this could be a very tough nail to pull out
I don't see many of us willing to mine if this situation doesn't stabilize - is there anything else you can introduce in the code to better protect against chain forking? I'm not a coder, so I cant really help, but things like hardchecks keep poping out in similar situations with other coins? Does this make sence or is i just noob rubish?Thanks
Thanks for your feedback & support, hardchecks are updated in the code, but cannot be done in future as no one knows what hash will be. It has more security than bitcoin & litecoin, similar to other X11 coins etc. None of the coins out their can prevent it including bitcoin, litecoin etc.
If pool was in wrong blockchain, your coins after 1611 are lost, but below that were mined are safe. Just give them some time to workout.
April 17, 2014, 02:40:02 PM
Dev. You mentioned talesfromthescrypt is sync'd. When can I expect the 72VC's I withdrew from them 2 days ago? Thanks.
April 17, 2014, 02:37:39 PM
This is crazy. I've deleted all blockchain files and tried a resync from scratch, using wallet 9.1.3 but it is now sticking at 1611. I'm guess TalesFromTheScrypt are having the same issue?
This is using no nodes .. what can we do to get this working properly?
This is using no nodes .. what can we do to get this working properly?
Hi MineP.it,
try this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6259493
It surely will work.
Ok thanks. Missed that post earlier.
We're on block 2917 now.
April 17, 2014, 02:35:13 PM
Please confirm this is correct
Code:
./virtualcoind getblockhash 2917
0000000008879f3bef6fe53ddc0a4fd0fb4c7042d307de7f07e9bc9fec978f3d
April 17, 2014, 02:34:25 PM
Had outstanding (> block 1611) confirmed balance, tried to cash out, didn't happen
Mailed them for support, still waiting on an answer.
They're on the right chain, but I not sure they'll be able to pay anything mined now until they clear the wrong fork confirmed balances :S
Not sure if I'll jump in and mine with the risk of not getting my coins because of old invalid balance ...
I'm waiting another hour to see if this clears out in a good way.
Meanwhile, v.coinz, despite your efforts, this could be a very tough nail to pull out
I don't see many of us willing to mine if this situation doesn't stabilize - is there anything else you can introduce in the code to better protect against chain forking? I'm not a coder, so I cant really help, but things like hardchecks keep poping out in similar situations with other coins? Does this make sence or is i just noob rubish?Thanks
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