Topic: VIRTUAL MINING CORP - page 4. (Read 9372 times)

I placed 2 orders on 22th of November with shipping date 31th of December 2014. My shipping dates are moved to atleast February 22th.

Last e-mail from VMC customer service
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Dear Customer,
Pre-Order Terms: This is a pre-order. 28nm ASIC products are shipped according to placement in the order queue, and delivery may take 3 months or more after order.Your items wont be shipping til between February 22th-March 20th.

Regards,
Customer service
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Well i thought that the "usual" delays have already been passed, but it's up to yourself to admit that or not.

And i will say this again. Posting as proof a fact that happened after your statement seems just wicked. You can't present 3 proofs of people that said "scam" when at the time of your statement there were only 2 people. Stop misleading readers.

I try to cut the garbage out of your posts so I apologize for not quoting you fully.

I think we are in agreement here. I'm not saying they will have chips soon or at all. I'm simply stating that with the knowledge presented it is likely that they will. You and RickJamesBTC seems to like to see me repeat myself. We already had this conversation in the other thread which I already quoted on this one. There's certain timelines in the IC world that are "usual".  There are certain delays that are "usual". If you take both of them and also take the timeline that was given by the owner of the company then you would come to the same conclusion. If this company isn't a total scam then they should have chips relatively soon (Read: within a month to two months) because of their admitted delays.

It's up to you and anyone else that is interested in this company (if you are not interested in the company then why even ask these questions..) to decide if the information given is enough to trust the company. Obviously for you personally it is not and I can respect that. Just like RickJamesBTC you want to see an actual chip unfortunately that cannot happen until it is manufactured (Another point I already quoted in this thread from the other thread).

So now here we are guys.

You have all the facts presented to you regardless if you want to read them or not.
You still choose to want to see a working product which means you have to wait until end of January/February.
If you choose not to wait then there's nothing left to say here, you guys will keep screaming scam until then and there's nothing I can do because that is your opinion and for all I know might be correct.

Ok this has gone to the next level. I admit that i missed Entropy-uc quote, but now you just quoted RickJamesBTC who said "scam" AFTER your post where you say that individuals are crying "scam" so i don't see how can i be wrong if you present me a proof that has happened after your statement. So grats to yourself for proving that you are really desperate regarding the issues here and that could only be because you are a shareholder of a sinking ship.

And again except from a signed NDA there is no other proof (ok maybe except the benches posted in the photos). Is there a deadline in the NDA? They could have chips ready in 1 year for example or 2 or 10. What guarantees you that they are working to get the chips as fast as possible? I'm not saying that they won't have chips soon, i'm just asking for some reasons for their success except NDA and naked assembly benches.

But you did vouch for TerraHash, visited them & insisted that they were 100% legit.
You mocked the detractors, calling them "trolls," just as you do here.
Those who laughed at you got to keep their money.
Those who listened to you lost it.  All of it.

For those who have been a part of the TerraHash trainwreck, where Bar pulled the *exact same shit* -- roped in the suckers while insulting the detractors & trotting around his "expert" opinion, this thread is deja vu all over again.

Sorry, I never said the world is against me. It doesn't bother me at all when you get all pissy at what I say. You can say you aren't vouching for the company, yet you clearly are. For some reason, you believe that they are honest manufacturers, instead of the latest group of liars. They took in money claiming a November ship date, it will be January very soon. They are still taking in money with ship dates in February, March, etc, but have no proof that they have made a single product. The thing that pissed me off and got me posting in this ridiculous thread was the positive reaction to a photo of the "assembly line" which consisted of some crap workbenches in a garage. If all it takes to perpetuate a fraud is a few hundred bucks at harbor freight and one pc case, someone should at least call them out on it. Even hashfast shares more than that. Instead of worrying about what I write, why don't you ask your buddy at vmc to come up with some proof of development.

At least you have a solid idea what I think of you and vmc.

I'm not vouching for the company as I've stated multiple times but somehow you missed....

I'm not defending the company, I'm answering the questions/false statements you have about the company with information directly from the company that anyone can find. I'm simply making it easier for them as it is spread out over the board.


I'd wear a KnC shirt if Bitcoinorama ever sent me one like he was supposed to. If I make up a VMC shirt will you go to the convention? I also ordered from KnC, you can check out my progress here.
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1FscNBYzd5CqDzUVQ9YapLQNtLbswkM4NL


You are called a troll because no where do they state they are selling in-hand gear. The gear does NOT exist yet so how could they show you a picture of it. No one here is saying they have a working unit. They do not as far as anyone knows. That is why it is called a "Pre-Order".

You should really have a friend go over your posts, it might save you from looking like a hypocrite.

Show me facts. Everyone is gonna call me a troll for not believing that a picture of some cheap workbenches and some boxes for computer cases equals shipping miners? That's a riot. A press release from a small ASIC manufacturing company, a few bad pictures, lots of broken promises. Why should anyone believe in this company?

Instead of answering that, I expect more personal attacks. Those don't bother me at all, so go ahead. It will just prove that there is no real information about this company producing miners.

Oh, I see you're just another "investor" in the scam. That adds a lot to your credibility.

He has summoned facts into your mostly mindless ranting. That is a far cry from being a shill. Your post was removed because the mods know that Bargraphics is not a shill nor even a cheerleader for ActM/VMC. You have been presented with data that you choose to ignore, and you've been informed on how to learn more before you continue with your uneducated criticisms - to which you said that you will not.

You are walking towards the troll camp very quickly, think of this post removal as a warning shot. When you start putting your fingers in your ears, screaming, "La la la!" that's when you know you've arrived. Engage the facts, and you can detour around said troll label. I've seen it done. I believe in you!

Cheers!

When someone vouches for a company and defends them as much as he has, there is a reason for it. It also creates a situation where people investigating a company they might purchase from only sees all his positive posts and thinks, gee this might be real. Fact is he invested in some nonsense shares of this scam, so he is tied into it and trying to protect that investment. The company still hasn't produced any proof of work that we can see, and until they do, they can sit over on the scam chair in the corner.

You need to get your facts straight before posting here. Bargraphics is no way a employee or a representative of VMC. He is not scamming or trying to rip any members off. Just wanted to make that clear so you understand this and you are no longer confused. All he is doing is presenting facts to you from what i can see.

I got moderated for calling this guy a shill? Someone want to discuss that with me? Or was it for calling him an idiot. I'd really like to know why this board would defend someone who wants to rip members off.

Will you be wearing your VMC shirt?

Do you ever go to any of the Bitcoin Conferences? I'll be at the Miami one January 25th. I'd honestly love to meet you.

I thought you were going away, back to your VMC sponsored apartment.

Everyone but you must know what inaba 2.0 means. My opinion is anything but humble, I respond loud and forceful to lying shits like you out to serve their own interests and help other people get ripped off. There are enough victims here.

Based on your humble opinion I presume


Actually dividends haven't been given out in some time, hopefully soon dust dividends will start rolling in again.


You do know that Inaba (Josh) works for Butterfly Labs. Since I do not work for VMC, I cannot be "Inaba 2.0". Your logic again is flawed.

I don't need to perform due diligence, moron. I have no financial investment in this company. Just trying to make sure that nobody else gives them money in the future.

you don't sound smart when you try to insult people, you sound like a scammer, a shill for this company. You already have a bad reputation on this board, I'm sure you will do anything to keep getting paid by vmc. Inaba 2.0?

Yes, yes you should because that is called due diligence.


Enjoy the rest of your night, if you have any other questions you'd like answered please don't hesitate to ask. I understand you have some sort of typing related coprolalia but I won't let that stop me from trying to help you with your ignorance.

Again I have to assume you are because everything you ask has already been answered if you just took the time to read. So you obviously have a hard time reading, are extremely lazy, or are trolling. I gave you the benefit of the doubt.


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3192907

You really did make me laugh with this one.


You proceed to call me a scammer and badger me while I answer all of your questions and then you have the audacity to type the above... You are crazy.


What does this even mean? I'm not part of VMC. I already told you I could care less if they end up being a "scam". By all means they could end up defrauding their customers like HashFast and BFL or simply running away like Terrahash. Doesn't change the fact I'm still going to answer all of your questions (Even though you are a complete asshole) on here with current facts, documents, and reasoning.

Yes I'm obviously illiterate. Good job sticking with the insults. Take your facts and logic and stick them up your ass with the rest of the bullshit. Why would anyone believe you? I'm just asking questions. Instead of answering questions, I'm being attacked for asking them. This is the behavior of a scammer, not an honest business.


How could you possibly have a copy of the NDA they signed if you don't work for that company? Are you fucking kidding me?