I'm glad to see negative feedback is removed from several profiles who posted here.
I'd be only glad if all the involved parties lock all their threads and stop talking about this ad naseum everywhere. Sometimes this forum is worse than any TV reality garbage that I've heard of. 
Topic: Vod is a liar & extortionist. Get him out of DT! - page 53. (Read 23837 times)
Really happy to see this sorted out between VOD and OgNasty. 
This clearly was not sorted out. OgNasty posted evidence Vod was using the trust system for personal reasons, and Vod, having a history of removing negative trust when threatened with being excluded from the DT system, was forced to remove the negative trust he left for OgN. I don't know if the threat of manually excluding a person from DT will ever be made good on. Based on how long this has been going on, I think probably not.
~I suspect Theymos ordered VOD and lauda to remove their trust abuse.~
I suspect you're full of it!- Trust isn't moderated.
- If Admin wants to remove trust, he doesn't need anyone's cooperation.
- Theymos believes in freedom of speech and decentralization, at most he would exclude someone who's trust he disagrees with, effectively having one vote like any other DT1.
I'm glad to see negative feedback is removed from several profiles who posted here.
We should try and leave negative trust only if we strongly believe someone has scammed or is trying to do so, especially after this welcomed change:
Leaving neutral trust or ~excluding someone from the trust list is one thing, but negative trust must be reserved to fight scammers, not for ego fights or misunderstandings.
Edit: Please note I'm not supporting one or the other party. Please don't try to make it look like I do. I want to be as far away from this senseless discussion as possible.
All I'm saying is this fight (as well as a lot of other recent discussions on Meta and Reputation) is not about scams so no negative trust is deserved.
We should try and leave negative trust only if we strongly believe someone has scammed or is trying to do so, especially after this welcomed change:
Logged-out users will now see a warning in trust-enabled sections if more DT members neg-trust the topic starter than positive-trust him.
This increases the responsibility of DT members not to give negative trust for stupid reasons, but only for things that cause you to believe that the person is a scammer.
This increases the responsibility of DT members not to give negative trust for stupid reasons, but only for things that cause you to believe that the person is a scammer.
Leaving neutral trust or ~excluding someone from the trust list is one thing, but negative trust must be reserved to fight scammers, not for ego fights or misunderstandings.
Edit: Please note I'm not supporting one or the other party. Please don't try to make it look like I do. I want to be as far away from this senseless discussion as possible.
All I'm saying is this fight (as well as a lot of other recent discussions on Meta and Reputation) is not about scams so no negative trust is deserved.
Very well said. The trust system should not be used for personal vendettas.
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It would be better had they still refused to remove their trust abuse and Theymos went full Thanos on these observable dirt bags and blacklisted the entire swathes of observable dirty turds infesting DT. Let's have some observably honest and long term legends on there with no dirt in their past histories who we can TRUST.
Okay.. This is Alex-Jones level trolling. You've officially elevated. (and gone completely nuts?)It would be better had they still refused to remove their trust abuse and Theymos went full Thanos on these observable dirt bags and blacklisted the entire swathes of observable dirty turds infesting DT. Let's have some observably honest and long term legends on there with no dirt in their past histories who we can TRUST.
Really happy to see this sorted out between VOD and OgNasty.
Both of you surely insprire new and learning members like me, on this forum to grow and follow some of your step's here.
Grab a blunt both of you.
Both of you surely insprire new and learning members like me, on this forum to grow and follow some of your step's here.
Grab a blunt both of you.
| Peace! |  |
I think you are unable to grasp that nothing has really changed except I suspect Theymos ordered VOD and lauda to remove their trust abuse. Which is of course the correct thing to do in this instance. Nobody here believes Ognasty is a scammer, so him having scam tags is laughable.
I am kind of upset they removed them (sorry OG no offence to you with that) because someone with his long term honest standing here that is being cast as a scammer by these observable liars and scammers demonstrated SOMETHING had to be done. Sadly it seems that they realize they stepped over their abusive threshold with Theymos by fucking with OG and retracted them now. This does not help at all with the larger issue that DT is riddled with scammers, liars, and trust abusers like VOD and Lauda and their colluding ass kissing clingons.
It would be better had they still refused to remove their trust abuse and Theymos went full Thanos on these observable dirt bags and blacklisted the entire swathes of observable dirty turds infesting DT. Let's have some observably honest and long term legends on there with no dirt in their past histories who we can TRUST.
Really happy to see this sorted out between VOD and OgNasty.
Both of you surely insprire new and learning members like me, on this forum to grow and follow some of your step's here.
Grab a blunt both of you.
Both of you surely insprire new and learning members like me, on this forum to grow and follow some of your step's here.
Grab a blunt both of you.
| Peace! | |
Come on guys, remove the red trust you’ve given each other & move on. There’s nothing to gain from continuing needless feuds. A lot of less respected members admire & look up to you two.
I never left Vod red trust. The lies and red trust all came from Vod in this situation. The only thing that has happened so far is that Vod removed the false red trust rating he left me. Still no apology for the lies or attempt at damaging my reputation.
No, VOD is not a good member. He abuses the trust system to silence the truth being spoken.
I do not feel that his actions would warrant him being classed as a "good" member at all.
Why should honest members need to have a beer and pretend his actions were legitimate? if he is a liar he must be called out as a liar. No nice beers and pretending it did not happen. This does not appear a 50/50 fault scenario. Where you can kiss and make up.
Liars, scammers, trust abusers, these are not good members. You would do well to start realizing that.
I do not feel that his actions would warrant him being classed as a "good" member at all.
Why should honest members need to have a beer and pretend his actions were legitimate? if he is a liar he must be called out as a liar. No nice beers and pretending it did not happen. This does not appear a 50/50 fault scenario. Where you can kiss and make up.
Liars, scammers, trust abusers, these are not good members. You would do well to start realizing that.
Wouldn’t it just be best to shake hands (virtually) & sort this out gentlemen?
Agreed! I think it would be good if several established forum members just get a beer together.The drama between good members doesn't do anyone nor Bitcoin nor the forum any good. And we all must have some common ground, after all that's why we're here.
Wouldn’t it just be best to shake hands (virtually) & sort this out gentlemen?
It’s quite clear that neither Vod or Og are scammers or untrustworthy. You two guys are two of the most respected members on the forum.
Come on guys, remove the red trust you’ve given each other & move on. There’s nothing to gain from continuing needless feuds. A lot of less respected members admire & look up to you two.
You can both tell me to fuck off but I think forgiveness & burying grudges goes a long way for well being & good karma.
Good luck to you both & peace.
It’s quite clear that neither Vod or Og are scammers or untrustworthy. You two guys are two of the most respected members on the forum.
Come on guys, remove the red trust you’ve given each other & move on. There’s nothing to gain from continuing needless feuds. A lot of less respected members admire & look up to you two.
You can both tell me to fuck off but I think forgiveness & burying grudges goes a long way for well being & good karma.
Good luck to you both & peace.
Vod, you are a liar and owe me an apology. Here's your proof:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/vod-is-a-liar-extortionist-get-him-out-of-dt-5136576
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/vod-is-a-liar-extortionist-get-him-out-of-dt-5136576
So many words and no proof that I ever sent PM(s)
Click on my quote link above to see what I actually typed. OG cherry picked only the first part of my sentence, so I would appear to be claiming I never sent any PMs at all.
lol
Yes, I think once Vod started shamefully lying about the legitimacy of the PMs I posted here
Where did I do that to your cherry picked quotes?
I'm glad to see negative feedback were removed from several profiles who posted here.
Yes, I think once Vod started shamefully lying about the legitimacy of the PMs I posted here, which is easily provable by Administrators, action needed to be taken. Hopefully in the future it doesn't take intervention for Vod to act like an adult.
Vod, you are a liar and owe me an apology. Here's your proof:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/vod-is-a-liar-extortionist-get-him-out-of-dt-5136576
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/vod-is-a-liar-extortionist-get-him-out-of-dt-5136576
So many words and no proof that I ever sent PM(s)
I'm sure an Administrator could verify that all of the messages I quoted from you are from legitimate Vod PMs. Keep digging that hole.
I'm glad to see negative feedback is removed from several profiles who posted here.
We should try and leave negative trust only if we strongly believe someone has scammed or is trying to do so, especially after this welcomed change:
Leaving neutral trust or ~excluding someone from the trust list is one thing, but negative trust must be reserved to fight scammers, not for ego fights or misunderstandings.
Edit: Please note I'm not supporting one or the other party. Please don't try to make it look like I do. I want to be as far away from this senseless discussion as possible.
All I'm saying is this fight (as well as a lot of other recent discussions on Meta and Reputation) is not about scams so no negative trust is deserved.
We should try and leave negative trust only if we strongly believe someone has scammed or is trying to do so, especially after this welcomed change:
Logged-out users will now see a warning in trust-enabled sections if more DT members neg-trust the topic starter than positive-trust him.
This increases the responsibility of DT members not to give negative trust for stupid reasons, but only for things that cause you to believe that the person is a scammer.
This increases the responsibility of DT members not to give negative trust for stupid reasons, but only for things that cause you to believe that the person is a scammer.
Leaving neutral trust or ~excluding someone from the trust list is one thing, but negative trust must be reserved to fight scammers, not for ego fights or misunderstandings.
Edit: Please note I'm not supporting one or the other party. Please don't try to make it look like I do. I want to be as far away from this senseless discussion as possible.
All I'm saying is this fight (as well as a lot of other recent discussions on Meta and Reputation) is not about scams so no negative trust is deserved.
some great "old" forum members consuming much of their time and efforts fighting against one another, that is a big win for the real scammers whom the trust system was invented to fight.
Would be glad to give you merit for this, but you're simply too damn obviously correct, so I can't. (You stated the obvious.)
some great "old" forum members consuming much of their time and efforts fighting against one another, that is a big win for the real scammers whom the trust system was invented to fight.
Vod doesn’t look very good here. There are a number of concerns about him.
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Vod doesn’t look very good here. There are a number of concerns about him.
It looks like Vod may have been using his position as a merit source to highlight businesses that he was is negotiations with to sell advertising space with, this is shady at best and amounts to selling merit at worst.
Vod is unwilling to do what is right within the trust system if doing what is right is not beneficial to him.
Most bizarrely, according to what OgN posted, Vod thinks of himself as god:
I cannot imagine anyone who makes this kind of statement ever being taken seriously.
It looks like Vod may have been using his position as a merit source to highlight businesses that he was is negotiations with to sell advertising space with, this is shady at best and amounts to selling merit at worst.
Vod is unwilling to do what is right within the trust system if doing what is right is not beneficial to him.
Most bizarrely, according to what OgN posted, Vod thinks of himself as god:
Back in the day when I thought of myself as a god (yesterday) I still listened to people and changed my mind from time to time.
I cannot imagine anyone who makes this kind of statement ever being taken seriously.
I am calling you a liar
You are now calling me a liar.
You are now calling me a liar.
The difference is that your lies are verifiable and proven.
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