[VXC] V.Cash (Was: [VNL] Vanillacoin), a quiet word of warning.

iCEBREAKER

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Quote from: bigfryguy on May 28, 2016, 05:21:24 PM

Quote from: smooth on May 28, 2016, 05:08:17 PM

gmaxwell apparently reported it to the vanillacoin/vcash developers themselves via a github issue, assuming good faith which would have meant the lack of the required Bitcoin attributions was an honest error. Instead of correcting the error (which it clearly wasn't), the vanillacoin/vcash developers hid the issue.

As far as I know,no Bitcoin developer has, so far, reported the issue to github itself nor made a takedown request with github on the basis of the license violation and copyright infringement, but they would be within their rights to do so, and will be for the next 50+ years (unless the repo is deleted first).

or John wrote a bunch a code while working through open SSL. And the code that you are refencing came from the work he originally developed..

actually thats probably full tin hat, more likely Bitcoin Core are a bunch of lame ducks and have no idea who wrote that code in the first place...

1 year later no action(after lead dev G maxwell made that accusation)= not gonna happen.

I think you are right.

Also note that this thread was necro'd because Monero are having a few little issues with John at the moment and they are desperate to shut him down...........

Monero never had a single valid issue reported via John Conner. And JC managed to shut himself (along with Vtrash) down with no help from gmax/smooth.

But you are still a liar, idiot, and Vcash scam pumper for believing/spreading JC's false XMR zero-day rumor and defending the now provably dishonest/insane Julian Cain rip-off artist.

Good job ceti. I like it when you drop these nasty little piles of your stupidity for me to eventually rub your face in. Cheesy

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It looks like someone was getting jealous of scammer Craig Wright bogus patent drama and decided to start some of their own https://twitter.com/vdotcash/status/746811738364928000 with an extra helping of incoherent jibberish.

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on May 28, 2016, 06:28:31 PM

Quote from: smooth on May 28, 2016, 05:08:17 PM

gmaxwell apparently reported it to the vanillacoin/vcash developers themselves via a github issue, assuming good faith which would have meant the lack of the required Bitcoin attributions was an honest error. Instead of correcting the error (which it clearly wasn't), the vanillacoin/vcash developers hid the issue.

As far as I know,no Bitcoin developer has, so far, reported the issue to github itself nor made a takedown request with github on the basis of the license violation and copyright infringement, but they would be within their rights to do so, and will be for the next 50+ years (unless the repo is deleted first).

That's so scumbag of them! It's OK, I know what to do...

LOL. A picture says more than 1000 words. Looks like a real trustworthy gentleman to me. Grin

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on May 28, 2016, 06:28:31 PM

What are the legal issues with exchanges like Poloniex running license violating software?

Responsible businesses, especially regulated ones, are very unlikely to run software they are aware is illegally copied. This is both a response to your question that can be interpreted in a number of different ways, as well as a general observation.

An interesting case is a business concluding that it can't legally use some wallet software while still holding customer funds. How does it return the funds? I guess fair use might apply for the purpose of returning the funds, but it also might take lawyers a while to figure that out. Would fair use apply for a business making use of its own funds? Not as clear I guess.

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Quote from: smooth on May 28, 2016, 05:08:17 PM

gmaxwell apparently reported it to the vanillacoin/vcash developers themselves via a github issue, assuming good faith which would have meant the lack of the required Bitcoin attributions was an honest error. Instead of correcting the error (which it clearly wasn't), the vanillacoin/vcash developers hid the issue.

As far as I know,no Bitcoin developer has, so far, reported the issue to github itself nor made a takedown request with github on the basis of the license violation and copyright infringement, but they would be within their rights to do so, and will be for the next 50+ years (unless the repo is deleted first).

That's so scumbag of them! It's OK, I know what to do...

What are the legal issues with exchanges like Poloniex running license violating software?

Is it any different than Poloniex using a cracked copy of Widows Server, or streaming a stolen copy of the new XMEN movie to their paying customers?

IIRC, it's worse a worse form of copyright infringement (civil vs criminal?) if you are making money with the pirated material.

Quick, everybody with a Polo account, go warn the admin/trollbox they are risking the FBI confiscating their servers (including wallets) if they don't stop copying Satoshi's floppy!

Polo and Bittrex need to stop exchanging coins using stolen software ASAP. By doing so, they may be subject to civil and/or criminal penalties.

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Quote from: bigfryguy on May 28, 2016, 05:21:24 PM

Quote from: smooth on May 28, 2016, 05:08:17 PM

gmaxwell apparently reported it to the vanillacoin/vcash developers themselves via a github issue, assuming good faith which would have meant the lack of the required Bitcoin attributions was an honest error. Instead of correcting the error (which it clearly wasn't), the vanillacoin/vcash developers hid the issue.

As far as I know,no Bitcoin developer has, so far, reported the issue to github itself nor made a takedown request with github on the basis of the license violation and copyright infringement, but they would be within their rights to do so, and will be for the next 50+ years (unless the repo is deleted first).

or John wrote a bunch a code while working through open SSL. And the code that you are refencing came from the work he originally developed..

That is false. Only one of the code segments that was identified has anything to do with openssl, and john-connor is not the copyright holder of it anyway. Other relevant code from Bitcoin that he copied without permission does not come from openssl. It does not help you to add new lies on top of the original ones.

I and others have pointed this out already months ago, so you are probably just repeating it as continued obfuscation, though I don't remember if you specifically were on the thread where it was discussed. Other Vcash advocates certainly were.

@ceti, hypocrisy much? You obviously have no interest in this matter at all except your "few little issues" with me and Monero.

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Quote from: smooth on May 28, 2016, 05:08:17 PM

gmaxwell apparently reported it to the vanillacoin/vcash developers themselves via a github issue, assuming good faith which would have meant the lack of the required Bitcoin attributions was an honest error. Instead of correcting the error (which it clearly wasn't), the vanillacoin/vcash developers hid the issue.

As far as I know,no Bitcoin developer has, so far, reported the issue to github itself nor made a takedown request with github on the basis of the license violation and copyright infringement, but they would be within their rights to do so, and will be for the next 50+ years (unless the repo is deleted first).

or John wrote a bunch a code while working through open SSL. And the code that you are refencing came from the work he originally developed..

actually thats probably full tin hat, more likely Bitcoin Core are a bunch of lame ducks and have no idea who wrote that code in the first place...

1 year later no action(after lead dev G maxwell made that accusation)= not gonna happen.

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gmaxwell apparently reported it to the vanillacoin/vcash developers themselves via a github issue, assuming good faith which would have meant the lack of the required Bitcoin attributions was an honest error. Instead of correcting the error (which it clearly wasn't), the vanillacoin/vcash developers hid the issue.

As far as I know,no Bitcoin developer has, so far, reported the issue to github itself nor made a takedown request with github on the basis of the license violation and copyright infringement, but they would be within their rights to do so, and will be for the next 50+ years (unless the repo is deleted first).

iCEBREAKER

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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.

Quote from: gmaxwell on January 12, 2015, 10:09:41 AM

FWIW, I politely reported the copyright violation (the code being a copy of Bitcoin Core run through an auto-formatter with all the attribution removed) as an issue on the github for the project and john-connor accused me of stalking him and then hid the issue tracker on that github from public view. :-/

Did github ever do anything about the stolen code?

For unknown reasons, john-conner is now launching a bizarre FUD campaign against Monero, blaming smooth for the discovery of the code theft and claiming to have a portfolio of Cryptonote zero-days.

If github kicked VanillaTrash/Vtrash off their system, that would explain his random epic butthurt.

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Quote from: solid12345 on February 20, 2016, 04:04:46 PM

Quote from: TPTB_need_war on February 20, 2016, 12:29:57 PM

I suggest you look up the phrase 'opportunity cost'. It doesn't mean that someone earns something. It means the potential of earning. And don't know what is wrong with your eyes but $200,000 - $500,000 is a range. And I don't know what rock you've been sleeping under, but college grads with no experience get $200,000 offers at Google. I was earning more than that in 1995.

Google "Average college salary" and "The overall average starting salary for Class of 2014 college graduates stands at $48,707, up 7.5 percent from the average of $45,327 posted by the Class of 2013 at this time last year, according to NACE's September 2014 Salary Survey report."

I get so tired dealing with you guys that intentionally misrepresent the facts as the salary for "software engineer" is in the $75 - $100k range:

http://www.indeed.com/salary/Software-Engineer.html

http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Software_Engineer/Salary

However, note I am expert in Scala, so that bumps me up to $110 - $120k range:

http://www.indeed.com/salary/q-Scala-Programmer-l-California.html

But more importantly realize I was earning $80k + $1 million in stock options (2 year vestment) in 1995. Inflation adjusted that is 6 x $80 = $480,000 just in salary and not including the stock options.

Besides in 2001 alone, I earned roughly $350,000+. Inflation-adjusted that!

The only issue for me is my health problem. If I didn't have a health issue, I would wipe your retarded faces on my ass with my accomplishments.

Quote from: solid12345 on February 20, 2016, 04:04:46 PM

Unfortunately were not all as blessed to be hired as Scroogle coming out of school with no work experience.

Fact is that I was earning more than the $200k that Google pays top recruited Stanford grads.

Weep but that is a fact.

Smooth earns more than $500k. And you guys waste his fucking time your retarded nonsense.

Quote from: solid12345 on February 20, 2016, 04:04:46 PM

But anyway the point stands, why is the dev of Bitcoin core and someone who says he routinely can/or/earns between $200k and $500k arguing for a year with the developer of a sub $1m dollar alt coin? (probably even sub $200k at the time Maxwell first got into it with JC) That makes even high school dropouts raise an eyebrow.

Agreed! Same thing I've argued to smooth in private.

Quote from: solid12345 on February 20, 2016, 04:04:46 PM

I saw this same phenomenon the other day when a lead Ethereum developer saw the volume on Expanse and got butthurt on twitter about it, getting absolutely angry over an asset worth 1/500th of his, is this what keeps the elite up at night?

I have no idea, but we are people. We do it for the social interaction and also much of my posting is about research. Because I need to research all technologies and competitors, so I might as well post my thoughts (for my own reference and also the people who follow my posts). I hope you realize I have 2 angel investors and they follow my posts.

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Quote from: TPTB_need_war on February 20, 2016, 12:29:57 PM

I suggest you look up the phrase 'opportunity cost'. It doesn't mean that someone earns something. It means the potential of earning. And don't know what is wrong with your eyes but $200,000 - $500,000 is a range. And I don't know what rock you've been sleeping under, but college grads with no experience get $200,000 offers at Google. I was earning more than that in 1995.

Google "Average college salary" and "The overall average starting salary for Class of 2014 college graduates stands at $48,707, up 7.5 percent from the average of $45,327 posted by the Class of 2013 at this time last year, according to NACE's September 2014 Salary Survey report."

Unfortunately were not all as blessed to be hired as Scroogle coming out of school with no work experience.

But anyway the point stands, why is the dev of Bitcoin core and someone who says he routinely can/or/earns between $200k and $500k arguing for a year with the developer of a sub $1m dollar alt coin? (probably even sub $200k at the time Maxwell first got into it with JC) That makes even high school dropouts raise an eyebrow.

I saw this same phenomenon the other day when a lead Ethereum developer saw the volume on Expanse and got butthurt on twitter about it, getting absolutely angry over an asset worth 1/500th of his, is this what keeps the elite up at night?

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Quote from: TPTB_need_war on February 20, 2016, 12:29:57 PM

Quote from: solid12345 on February 20, 2016, 11:27:38 AM

I'm not qualified enough to say if JC's code is really worth its weight in gold or not, but it tells you something when a Bitcoin dev gets riled up over what the dev in an endless sea of altcoins is doing. Same goes for someone claiming to make $500k a year...

You are really clueless as to what developers earn. Again my issue is only that I have cancer or some serious health issue. That is my only problem.

What you clueless n00bs write is entirely worthless. It would be like asking a snail to comment on math.

Hey, dude, it seems you will soon collapse under preasure of your karma, no need to make things even worse, stop insulting people you don't know (spilling shit over the board doesn't help in any known health issues). Be strong, wise and healthy in your next life, peace.

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Quote from: TPTB_need_war on February 20, 2016, 12:29:57 PM

Quote from: solid12345 on February 20, 2016, 11:27:38 AM

I'm not qualified enough to say if JC's code is really worth its weight in gold or not, but it tells you something when a Bitcoin dev gets riled up over what the dev in an endless sea of altcoins is doing. Same goes for someone claiming to make $500k a year...

I suggest you look up the phrase 'opportunity cost'. It doesn't mean that someone earns something. It means the potential of earning. And don't know what is wrong with your eyes but $200,000 - $500,000 is a range. And I don't know what rock you've been sleeping under, but college grads with no experience get $200,000 offers at Google. I was earning more than that in 1995.

You are really clueless as to what developers earn. Again my issue is only that I have cancer or some serious health issue. That is my only problem.

What you clueless n00bs write is entirely worthless. It would be like asking a snail to comment on math.

Hey fucker, you're an idiot!

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Quote from: TPTB_need_war on February 20, 2016, 12:29:57 PM

Quote from: solid12345 on February 20, 2016, 11:27:38 AM

I'm not qualified enough to say if JC's code is really worth its weight in gold or not, but it tells you something when a Bitcoin dev gets riled up over what the dev in an endless sea of altcoins is doing. Same goes for someone claiming to make $500k a year...

I suggest you look up the phrase 'opportunity cost'. It doesn't mean that someone earns something. It means the potential of earning. And don't know what is wrong with your eyes but $200,000 - $500,000 is a range. And I don't know what rock you've been sleeping under, but college grads with no experience get $200,000 offers at Google. I was earning more than that in 1995.

You are really clueless as to what developers earn. Again my issue is only that I have cancer or some serious health issue. That is my only problem.

What you clueless n00bs write is entirely worthless. It would be like asking a snail to comment on math.

Firstly, college grads getting $200,000 offers at Google is a few people out of hundreds of thousands of grads. Most make far less. But the more important thing, and I feel bad for you. is "I have cancer or some serious health issue." Well you better go find out which it is! I just did the colonoscopy and luckily was ok, I have some health issues though, but a hell of a lot better than cancer. Go take care of yourself man, instead of arguing on forums.

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Quote from: solid12345 on February 20, 2016, 11:27:38 AM

I'm not qualified enough to say if JC's code is really worth its weight in gold or not, but it tells you something when a Bitcoin dev gets riled up over what the dev in an endless sea of altcoins is doing. Same goes for someone claiming to make $500k a year...

I suggest you look up the phrase 'opportunity cost'. It doesn't mean that someone earns something. It means the potential of earning. And don't know what is wrong with your eyes but $200,000 - $500,000 is a range. And I don't know what rock you've been sleeping under, but college grads with no experience get $200,000 offers at Google. I was earning more than that in 1995.

You are really clueless as to what developers earn. Again my issue is only that I have cancer or some serious health issue. That is my only problem.

What you clueless n00bs write is entirely worthless. It would be like asking a snail to comment on math.

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I'm not qualified enough to say if JC's code is really worth its weight in gold or not, but it tells you something when a Bitcoin dev gets riled up over what the dev in an endless sea of altcoins is doing. Same goes for someone claiming to make $500k a year...

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Quote from: Levole11 on February 20, 2016, 07:50:46 AM

I remember in the summer the community gave you the chance to perform a double spend based on your accusations then that ZT was flawed. There was a bounty. You never accepted the offer

Blah blah blah. No one whose opportunity costs is $200,000 - $500,000 yearly wastes their time on your nonsense tiny bounty in a coin that doesn't have sufficient liquidity to short and in which the mining (i.e. Zerotime network) is controlled by the flock of delusion shills. (additionally the bounty is in VNL and I had explained before what is the point of finding a flaw then the bounty value will decline as well)

We focus on the technical analysis and how it will perform in the wild.

Your rebuttal is entirely nonsense (as it was in the past), but of course you retarded shills will continue on with your delusion.

Readers are smart enough to see who is the fool in this debate. Delude yourself as you wish. Piss into the wind and troll your shadow in your tiny circle-jerk with your cohort bag holding shills.

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