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Topic: [VXC] V.Cash (Was: [VNL] Vanillacoin), a quiet word of warning. - page 5. (Read 14244 times)

legendary
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Hmm, this Vanilla coin is getting more and more interesting by the day.  I obviously hold gmaxwell's position in crypto history as high.  I also hold John's 20 years of P2P and crypto history as high.  It seems to me these two are in a little beef, but I would guess they know each other or have worked on a project together long ago.  In either case you've got two brilliant people debating bitcoin and vanillacoin with each other. That's all I need to know.  Kind of reminds me of the war between Bill Gates and Steven Jobs. You can guess who is who, lol.



Proble is it's not a debate is people claiming johns work won't work.....even of course while it is running on test eat without a double spend I might add.

Anyway the challenge has been set, those involved need to point the questions and debate the actual person not here where it's a cesspool of FUD and hype. IRC is the place for debate. If they don't then I guess they are not worth listening to here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1152106.40
full member
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I also hold John's 20 years of P2P and crypto history as high.

Where's that from?

Edit: I'm trying not to say [citation needed], I'm curious about the details of what he was doing for 20 years.
legendary
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Hmm, this Vanilla coin is getting more and more interesting by the day.  I obviously hold gmaxwell's position in crypto history as high.  I also hold John's 20 years of P2P and crypto history as high.  It seems to me these two are in a little beef, but I would guess they know each other or have worked on a project together long ago.  In either case you've got two brilliant people debating bitcoin and vanillacoin with each other. That's all I need to know.  Kind of reminds me of the war between Bill Gates and Steven Jobs. You can guess who is who, lol.
hero member
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Everyone should read this article (especially the under the hood part):

http://cointelegraph.com/news/114794/miners-lost-over-50000-from-the-bitcoin-hardfork-last-weekend

John Connor warned the BTC devs about this issue:

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/5634#issuecomment-69481908

Who are the idiots?

I'm afraid you failed to actually understand the discussion.  First, there has been no Bitcoin hard fork; the article you're linking to is simply flat out wrong.

Secondly, John Connor didn't warn about anything there-- in fact, he copied the code he was complaining about into his own codebase, after reformatting and with incorrect attribution in violation of the very minimal software license, and then lied about the functionality being in his forware all along. (See also: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10122209).

I find it remarkable that people will continue to use software written by someone who has been caught outright lying about the content of the binaries they distribute.  It reduces my faith in the potential for the success of cryptocurrency at all. What greater warning sign could you ask for?

Hmm, hmm, You were discussing over a problem yet john-connor didnt warn you, khmm
Yea, right and I heard that earth is actually flat.
Makes you wonder how stuff member can go out with opinions and discuss on any topic here which strongly reduces my faith in service quality and competence of this forum.
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Oh, mr. Maxwell you even started this thread, isn't this some kind of conflict of interest?
Does this forum have some or any kind of code of conduct?

staff
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Everyone should read this article (especially the under the hood part):

http://cointelegraph.com/news/114794/miners-lost-over-50000-from-the-bitcoin-hardfork-last-weekend

John Connor warned the BTC devs about this issue:

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/5634#issuecomment-69481908

Who are the idiots?

I'm afraid you failed to actually understand the discussion.  First, there has been no Bitcoin hard fork; the article you're linking to is simply flat out wrong.

Secondly, John Connor didn't warn about anything there-- in fact, he copied the code he was complaining about into his own codebase, after reformatting and with incorrect attribution in violation of the very minimal software license, and then lied about the functionality being in his forware all along. (See also: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10122209).

I find it remarkable that people will continue to use software written by someone who has been caught outright lying about the content of the binaries they distribute.  It reduces my faith in the potential for the success of cryptocurrency at all. What greater warning sign could you ask for?
newbie
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It should be noted that he posted that in January. 
 
I am looking over both whitepapers now. 
 
https://github.com/john-connor/papers/blob/708f488c8c17e08a12bc4bdb4fc5ac1e2aaf6e24/zerotime.pdf 
http://vanillacoin.net/papers/vanillacoin.pdf   
 
The papers talk about how whenever a transaction is sent, that node will check a hiearchy of nodes (including a masternode?) to see if the majority of them have accepted it; if they have, then it will accept it too with no questions.  I have some serious mathematical issues with how this will work in real life. 
 
In any case, this currency is getting pretty big and if there's something behind this, then great: I will be a massive supporter.  But if something's fucky, it's time to find out.

i am trying to find out if vnl is real deal or not  Huh

this is what i find so far

More nodes staking does help secure the nPoS channel yes, so thank you for helping Smiley

As to Trust Key expiration if you don't stake for 1 day your key will expire requiring you to get another genesis transaction and create a new trust key starting at 0.5% interest. Most likely going to increase the expiration time to 1 week or month, depending on what you guys would like so if you have suggestions to how long you would like the expiration time to be, let me know Smiley

Vanilla has had a lot of attention, but under false pretense such as: The Angel Investor was actually John Conner.
There are also some false claims such as their staking being more energy efficient, when it is an exact line for line clone of Peercoin, just rewritten in C++ 11.

Another thing for you VNL holders, don't trust Zero Time. I found some flaws in it that would allow successful double spends at zero confirmations without 51% of network power, I'm writing a report for a friend about it and other positives / negatives with its claims / actual results.

But on another note, I'd like to extend my appreciation to everyone for helping make Nexus what it is, don't forget: By the People, for the People. To me, Nexus isn't just about profit, it's about freeing ourselves from a system designed to keep us enslaved, the more everyone works together, the more chances we have at this Freedom.

Cooperation, not Competition
We Are Nexus



full member
Activity: 238
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Everyone should read this article (especially the under the hood part):

http://cointelegraph.com/news/114794/miners-lost-over-50000-from-the-bitcoin-hardfork-last-weekend

John Connor warned the BTC devs about this issue:

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/5634#issuecomment-69481908

Who are the idiots?
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1000
ARK Team likes to ban and delete posts in reddit.
Now that's one dark history

I had no idea until a friend just sent me a link to this thread. Geez.
legendary
Activity: 1246
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Now that's one dark history

Dark in what way? Does it involve tortured kittens?
legendary
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=== NODE IS OK! ==
Now that's one dark history
legendary
Activity: 1848
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Dude. Its called "Vanillacoin." If that wasn't a tip off that its not meant to be a serious coin, I don't know what is. I just feel like a straight idiot sinking my money into coins with stupid names, but that's just me.

I never mined or bought DOGE coin because it had the stupidest name and a retarded logo. Guess what coin is sitting in the top 5 market caps? And guess who missed out, me. Vanillacoin has so much more going for it than DOGE or DASH, no reason to hate on it.
hero member
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Dude. Its called "Vanillacoin." If that wasn't a tip off that its not meant to be a serious coin, I don't know what is. I just feel like a straight idiot sinking my money into coins with stupid names, but that's just me.
 
 
Oh for fuck sake.  I had my mind made up that Vanilla Coin was a scam pump until Nutildah started trolling it.  Now I don't know again.

Yeah because I totally just "pumped" it. You can't even read English, can you...
 
 
Lol wut.   Can you?
legendary
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Dude. Its called "Vanillacoin." If that wasn't a tip off that its not meant to be a serious coin, I don't know what is. I just feel like a straight idiot sinking my money into coins with stupid names, but that's just me.
 
 
Oh for fuck sake.  I had my mind made up that Vanilla Coin was a scam pump until Nutildah started trolling it.  Now I don't know again.

Yeah because I totally just "pumped" it. You can't even read English, can you...
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 504
Dude. Its called "Vanillacoin." If that wasn't a tip off that its not meant to be a serious coin, I don't know what is. I just feel like a straight idiot sinking my money into coins with stupid names, but that's just me.
 
 
Oh for fuck sake.  I had my mind made up that Vanilla Coin was a scam pump until Nutildah started trolling it.  Now I don't know again.
legendary
Activity: 3010
Merit: 8114
Dude. Its called "Vanillacoin." If that wasn't a tip off that its not meant to be a serious coin, I don't know what is. I just feel like a straight idiot sinking my money into coins with stupid names, but that's just me.
full member
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This. 
 
This is what I was looking for. 
 
Thank you.

Tactical fud necro!
legendary
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180 BPM
It should be noted that he posted that in January. 
 
I am looking over both whitepapers now. 
 
https://github.com/john-connor/papers/blob/708f488c8c17e08a12bc4bdb4fc5ac1e2aaf6e24/zerotime.pdf 
http://vanillacoin.net/papers/vanillacoin.pdf   
 
The papers talk about how whenever a transaction is sent, that node will check a hiearchy of nodes (including a masternode?) to see if the majority of them have accepted it; if they have, then it will accept it too with no questions.  I have some serious mathematical issues with how this will work in real life. 
 
In any case, this currency is getting pretty big and if there's something behind this, then great: I will be a massive supporter.  But if something's fucky, it's time to find out.

ZeroTime should get an additional 25 page whitepaper with the release explaining everything in detail.

The first post is gmaxwell being hurt by an argument that John made with them on the Bitcoin github and trying to pick on his project afterwards. gmax would never play the hero in the altcoin discussion part of the forum don't worry, he wouldn't give a shit.

Also the project started with being closed source while the alpha stage rolled out, everything is open source now and you can ask anyone ranging from Polo owners to Bittrex owners or any of your dev friends on the quality and uniqueness of the codebase and communication protocol.
hero member
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Merit: 504
It should be noted that he posted that in January. 
 
I am looking over both whitepapers now. 
 
https://github.com/john-connor/papers/blob/708f488c8c17e08a12bc4bdb4fc5ac1e2aaf6e24/zerotime.pdf 
http://vanillacoin.net/papers/vanillacoin.pdf   
 
The papers talk about how whenever a transaction is sent, that node will check a hiearchy of nodes (including a masternode?) to see if the majority of them have accepted it; if they have, then it will accept it too with no questions.  I have some serious mathematical issues with how this will work in real life. 
 
In any case, this currency is getting pretty big and if there's something behind this, then great: I will be a massive supporter.  But if something's fucky, it's time to find out.
sr. member
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Thanks for the warning Mr. Maxwell. I guess they try too hard to make illegitimate pump & dump money. I would stay away from this copy coin.
sr. member
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Just what i thought, a shitcoin copy past fail with a laughable userbase of around 100 and a 'fancy' zerotime feature slapped on top.. bitcoin is already pretty much instant. but thanks to op it seems more shady stuff is going on with this overhyped coin no average joe ever gonna use.
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