[VXC] V.Cash (Was: [VNL] Vanillacoin), a quiet word of warning. - page 3.

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Quote from: solid12345 on September 25, 2015, 05:02:38 PM

they "inherited" the codebase as if they are anointed its successor or something.

That is exactly the case in a sense. As with any fork the community has a choice which to support. In doing so the community annoints the successor. Would be the same with Bitcoin/Bitcoin-XT, etc., etc.

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on September 25, 2015, 04:45:18 PM

Your scam = busted. Cheesy

It's not "my scam", hell I sold off my meagerly 10k VNL holdings the other day because it wasn't going anywhere, but that is a pretty ballsy thing to say that they "inherited" the codebase as if they are anointed its successor or something.

This is all business, not a holy war.

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Quote from: solid12345 on September 25, 2015, 02:35:09 PM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on September 25, 2015, 02:23:55 PM

OTOH, XMR devs are doing great things to salvage, improve, and perfect their inherited Cryptonote codebase.

Inherited? You mean the cryptonote team died and passed the code on in their will to the XMR team Cheesy

The XMR team simply reused, WITH PROPER ATTRIBUTION, the CN code base to launch their own fork. Then they vastly improved upon it.

Do you even WITH PROPER ATTRIBUTION bro? Huh

Changing the subject to another coin to distract people from VNL's stolen code isn't going to work. Your scam = busted. Cheesy

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Quote from: Levole11 on September 25, 2015, 12:00:00 PM

Quote from: YarkoL on September 25, 2015, 10:44:47 AM

Well maybe shady isn't the best word. What I meant
is a little bit mysterious and reticent when it comes to
exposition.

I can understand that 'image' for ppl who follow him only on bct, for ppl following him on irc its quite the contrary..

Call me old-fashioned but hanging on irc
is no substitute for a solid and detailed whitepaper...

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on September 25, 2015, 02:23:55 PM

OTOH, XMR devs are doing great things to salvage, improve, and perfect their inherited Cryptonote codebase.

Inherited? You mean the cryptonote team died and passed the code on in their will to the XMR team Cheesy

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Quote from: traumschiff on September 24, 2015, 03:18:39 AM

@iCEBREAKER

That "code thief" single handedly coded more and with a higher quality than your beloved XMR developers, who couldn't put down anything on the table since the moment they forked bytecoin.

Must hurt to baghold something that will never get real world use or adoption with those "developers".

Your scam coin is based on provably stolen code. Even worse, your scam-dev denies stealing the code despite being caught red-handed, dead to rights. Worst of all, your scam-community uses Scientology style 'attack-the-attackers' tactics to deflect criticism with logical fallacies and flat out lies about whatever projects the 'attackers' happen to be involved in. It's basically the low rent version of the DashHole cargo cult. Grin

Gmaxwell proves 'VNL stole code?' Attack Bitcoin!
Smooth proves 'VNL stole code?' Attack Monero!
gjhiggins proves 'VNL stole code?' Quick, attack C-CEX like anyone knows or cares WTF a C-CEX is/was!

All your scam-dev can do is steal code and hide the theft using the advanced technique of 'variable renaming.'

OTOH, XMR devs are doing great things to salvage, improve, and perfect their inherited Cryptonote codebase.

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Quote from: YarkoL on September 25, 2015, 10:44:47 AM

Well maybe shady isn't the best word. What I meant
is a little bit mysterious and reticent when it comes to
exposition.

I can understand that 'image' for ppl who follow him only on bct, for ppl following him on irc its quite the contrary..

YarkoL

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Well maybe shady isn't the best word. What I meant
is a little bit mysterious and reticent when it comes to
exposition.

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Quote from: pseudonymdude

As far as the altcoin world goes, he's about as least shady as they come. The altcoin world is all salesmen trying to sell you their scam. Over 99% of altcoins are all scams and promises with no results.

John is just sitting there, committing high quality code nobody has written before. I believe he's actually trying to build something.

+1, in almost 2 years at bct, i've yet to meet a harder woking dev

his work speaks for itself

some quiet words of respect

tally ho!

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Quote from: YarkoL on September 25, 2015, 06:29:05 AM

Quote from: pseudonymdude on September 25, 2015, 06:11:25 AM

Once John lowered the confirms to 1, TF2 said Busoni wanted a code review, but they would likely lower the confirms to 2. TF2 didn't do the code review and I'm not sure who did, but they did eventually lower the confirms to 1 in early June.

Yep I remember that, because at the time
I asked j-c about it and he answered in the "official"
thread

Quote from: john-connor on June 15, 2015, 06:39:08 AM

The zero confirmation branch is private

But now that everythings in the open I'm waiting for
some intrepid explorer to dig in.

IMO john-connor is somewhat shady guy, but clearly
a very competent programmer, and therefore I'm still on the fence about
VNL.

As far as the altcoin world goes, he's about as least shady as they come. The altcoin world is all salesmen trying to sell you their scam. Over 99% of altcoins are all scams and promises with no results.

John is just sitting there, committing high quality code nobody has written before. I believe he's actually trying to build something.

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Quote from: pseudonymdude on September 25, 2015, 06:11:25 AM

Once John lowered the confirms to 1, TF2 said Busoni wanted a code review, but they would likely lower the confirms to 2. TF2 didn't do the code review and I'm not sure who did, but they did eventually lower the confirms to 1 in early June.

Yep I remember that, because at the time
I asked j-c about it and he answered in the "official"
thread

Quote from: john-connor on June 15, 2015, 06:39:08 AM

The zero confirmation branch is private

But now that everythings in the open I'm waiting for
some intrepid explorer to dig in.

IMO john-connor is somewhat shady guy, but clearly
a very competent programmer, and therefore I'm still on the fence about
VNL.

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Quote from: YarkoL on September 25, 2015, 01:36:01 AM

Quote from: pseudonymdude on September 24, 2015, 09:13:59 PM

Poloniex did review the code awhile ago.

Did they? The code wasn't in the open at the time.

Also, while I respect Poloniex for their integrity (based on how they handled
the situation when they were hacked, ages ago) I'm not that convinced
of their aptitude when it comes to estimating code.

I have looked at the code, and it looks good to me, but I know
there are some people here who are better at spotting vulnerabilities
when it comes to this sort of thing.

It was definitely open before Poloniex added it to their exchange in early March. TF2honeybadger, the wallet manager at Polo at the time, was extremely impressed with the code and was on the Vanillacoin IRC channel frequently then. Once John lowered the confirms to 1, TF2 said Busoni wanted a code review, but they would likely lower the confirms to 2. TF2 didn't do the code review and I'm not sure who did, but they did eventually lower the confirms to 1 in early June.

Bittrex-richie, who was also on our IRC and added our coin a month later than Poloniex, had nothing but positive comments for TF2 btw. Bittrex-richie was also somewhat impressed with the code, but wanted to see how another exchange fared with it for some time before adding it because it wasn't clone code.

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Quote from: Furio on September 25, 2015, 01:38:45 AM

Quote from: SockPuppetAccount on January 11, 2015, 01:18:29 PM

No one even remembers this coin, I know I don't. If he has shuffled a group of victims off elsewhere, not much to do about it unless they come back to BCT and see your warning.

Lately I saw an increase of people posting positively about Vanillacoin that its so underrated bladiebla:) Mostly newby accounts, but still it seems the guy wants one last dump and than is out

You expect him to do one last dump with another few thousand lines code pushed in the last 2-3 weeks? It would be totally worth the time.

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Quote from: SockPuppetAccount on January 11, 2015, 01:18:29 PM

No one even remembers this coin, I know I don't. If he has shuffled a group of victims off elsewhere, not much to do about it unless they come back to BCT and see your warning.

Lately I saw an increase of people posting positively about Vanillacoin that its so underrated bladiebla:) Mostly newby accounts, but still it seems the guy wants one last dump and than is out

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Quote from: pseudonymdude on September 24, 2015, 09:13:59 PM

Poloniex did review the code awhile ago.

Did they? The code wasn't in the open at the time.

Also, while I respect Poloniex for their integrity (based on how they handled
the situation when they were hacked, ages ago) I'm not that convinced
of their aptitude when it comes to estimating code.

I have looked at the code, and it looks good to me, but I know
there are some people here who are better at spotting vulnerabilities
when it comes to this sort of thing.

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Quote from: pseudonymdude on September 24, 2015, 09:13:59 PM

Quote from: YarkoL on September 24, 2015, 02:39:58 PM

Quote from: onemorexmr on September 24, 2015, 12:11:02 PM

Quote from: YarkoL on September 24, 2015, 12:08:02 PM

I see now multiple threads about Vanillacoin, but
where is an intelligent discussion about whether the
coin actually delivers the distinctive new features it
claims to have?

"property rights", give me a break

here you go:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=977245.new;topicseen#new

I know that thread, I was hoping someone smarter
than me might review the new networking/consensus code and ascertain
if it is vulnerable to a double spend or some other type
of attack.

Poloniex did review the code awhile ago. It's the only coin other than Bitcoin that only requires 1 confirmation on Poloniex and has been that way for about 4 months. You can test this by going here: https://poloniex.com/public?command=returnCurrencies and searching for minconf":1,

You'll get two results, which will be Vanillacoin and Bitcoin.

Some other things that are testable are:
- It's the only coin that has full, staking mobile wallets that allow you to move your wallet.dat to your PC from your Android and iOS wallets
- It's the only coin that gives you a random port if you have no config.dat. All your ISP will see is normal SSL traffic while monitoring your ports, which is unlike what happens with all other coins

It's also the only coin to have near-instant 0 confirmation transactions without master nodes. No one has been able to break Zerotime, but no exchanges accept Zerotime yet.

This is not quite accurate, Poloniex accepts ZT more than a month already.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12424677

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Quote from: YarkoL on September 24, 2015, 02:39:58 PM

Quote from: onemorexmr on September 24, 2015, 12:11:02 PM

Quote from: YarkoL on September 24, 2015, 12:08:02 PM

I see now multiple threads about Vanillacoin, but
where is an intelligent discussion about whether the
coin actually delivers the distinctive new features it
claims to have?

"property rights", give me a break

here you go:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=977245.new;topicseen#new

I know that thread, I was hoping someone smarter
than me might review the new networking/consensus code and ascertain
if it is vulnerable to a double spend or some other type
of attack.

Poloniex did review the code awhile ago. It's the only coin other than Bitcoin that only requires 1 confirmation on Poloniex and has been that way for about 4 months. You can test this by going here: https://poloniex.com/public?command=returnCurrencies and searching for minconf":1,

You'll get two results, which will be Vanillacoin and Bitcoin.

Some other things that are testable are:
- It's the only coin that has full, staking mobile wallets that allow you to move your wallet.dat to your PC from your Android and iOS wallets
- It's the only coin that gives you a random port if you have no config.dat. All your ISP will see is normal SSL traffic while monitoring your ports, which is unlike what happens with all other coins

It's also the only coin to have near-instant 0 confirmation transactions without master nodes. No one has been able to break Zerotime, but no exchanges accept Zerotime yet.

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Quote from: onemorexmr on September 24, 2015, 12:11:02 PM

Quote from: YarkoL on September 24, 2015, 12:08:02 PM

I see now multiple threads about Vanillacoin, but
where is an intelligent discussion about whether the
coin actually delivers the distinctive new features it
claims to have?

"property rights", give me a break

here you go:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=977245.new;topicseen#new

I know that thread, I was hoping someone smarter
than me might review the new networking/consensus code and ascertain
if it is vulnerable to a double spend or some other type
of attack.

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Quote from: traumschiff on September 24, 2015, 01:37:05 PM

Quote from: onemorexmr on September 24, 2015, 12:11:02 PM

Quote from: YarkoL on September 24, 2015, 12:08:02 PM

I see now multiple threads about Vanillacoin, but
where is an intelligent discussion about whether the
coin actually delivers the distinctive new features it
claims to have?

"property rights", give me a break

here you go:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=977245.new;topicseen#new

this thread is about john-connor copying code without honoring its license and lying about it

And this thread is dealing with a coin that has a single developer doing more work than any monero dev did with their bytecoin fork:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=977245.new;topicseen#new

ROFL you linked the same thread.
thanks for bumping this one though Wink

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Quote from: onemorexmr on September 24, 2015, 12:11:02 PM

Quote from: YarkoL on September 24, 2015, 12:08:02 PM

I see now multiple threads about Vanillacoin, but
where is an intelligent discussion about whether the
coin actually delivers the distinctive new features it
claims to have?

"property rights", give me a break

here you go:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=977245.new;topicseen#new

this thread is about john-connor copying code without honoring its license and lying about it

And this thread is dealing with a coin that has a single developer doing more work than any monero dev did with their bytecoin fork:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=977245.new;topicseen#new

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