Topic: Wagering requirements for withdraw - page 3. (Read 4805 times)

It is very rare for casinos to implement wagering requirements of 1x or 2x the bet amount. But I think there must be casinos that do not enforce wagering requirements for "normal deposits," and such casinos will usually be the go-to for people who don't want to be bound by the wagering requirements of the bonuses launched by the casinos.

That's why I say to pay attention to the wagering requirements, especially when we want to enter a promotion, because there are wagering requirements that must be met before we can withdraw the winnings if we win.

We have to consider that it's just reasonable for casinos to do so. Being very light and not that strict in terms of promotions will result in abuse. Regular gamblers at that site don't want that to happen as it will affect all users if such big sh*t happened on that site.

I'm also not a fan of reading bonus terms and conditions but my experience will tell me what's the best thing to do. It's also obvious that big promotions always come with great requirements that's why gamblers should understand that the moment they enter the promotion.

That's why if confused, users can just do normal deposits and stay away from promotions if they don't understand even the basic terms.

If you read carefully what OP pointed out, it's not about being unattentive to the bonus terms and conditions.

The point here is, the wagering requirement is too much for "normal deposit". It's understandable that bonuses and promotions come up with a high wagering requirement, obviously to prevent abuses, but for normal deposits, it should just be around 1x or 2x the deposit amount. Imagine, if you are a big roller, you need to wager a crazy high turnover for your big deposit amount and you will be stuck at it even if you are in big winnings right now.

We are talking about normal deposits here without any bonuses and promotions involved.

I'm with OP that such requirements for normal deposits are crazy and can't consider a good practice.

It would be difficult to find a single person which has not done this on the past as this is a very common mistake, stile there is a massive difference between those that eventually read those terms and do so a few days later and those that only read them once the casino has decided to withhold their money.

On the first case the person can still avoid the majority of the problems that could come their way, while on the second case not only this is not possible but the number of problems you will have to face will be many times higher and those problems will be almost impossible to resolve amicably with the casino.

Yes, indeed, the length of the writing requirements makes people lazy to read, even old gamblers also never pay attention to casino rules because personally I don't do it too often, but I may have different goals with other gamblers, I gamble just for fun and enjoy the game so I don't withdraw money very often, spend a little money to try out the game, after winning I usually lose again. 

So never thought of withdrawing money from the casino because I know they have wagering requirements eg on bonuses and stuff that's why I haven't thought of trying to withdraw money from winnings but if I'm gambling for money in the first place I will usually read the wagering terms and conditions so that it doesn't become a problem one day.

And such people will only complain when they find out they missed that part or did not read the terms and conditions. And it turns out that many gamblers still don't do it, which causes them to get into trouble later. Reputable and trusted casinos try to show professionalism by constantly reminding their users, but we, as gamblers, often neglect this.

And the casino can do anything to gambling accounts that the casino thinks is suspicious until they can investigate everything to completion. If their suspicions are not proven, the casino will unblock the gambling accounts. We should pay attention to wagering requirements if we don't want to run into trouble and try not to miss any part so we can withdraw the money. And if the casino encounters suspicion with our account, we can also show or even KYC our account if necessary.

We as players know very well how things are when it comes to games and more when they are associated with bonuses and that is where our responsibility comes in, every time we go to play it is very necessary to play and do whatever it takes to learn and seeing that things have to be like this, then my recommendation will always be to read the terms and conditions of everything in the casino, be it the conditions of the bonuses, be it the conditions until when we are registering.

I have almost learned that from the beatings that I have given myself in some casinos that it is essential to read, I am a person who has always been lazy, and I know that sometimes reading all that is very lazy, but it is necessary to do it because what is risked In a casino it is money and that is very important, we cannot let our money go just like that, and that is something that at some point every player will agree with me , I understand that sometimes because of the adrenaline, the emotion and For all that we want to live in a casino , it is quick Because we really want to play, to make money, and that is where we are taken with completo, because we have that age, and the casinos are excellent to sweeten, to make us marvel With little , the terms and Conditions are what we must handle very well so that in any problem that may arise with the casino, we can be based on those terms and conditions, any case of claims in a casino always focuses on you terms and Conditions , normally the casino there is that Sticks and Wins.

The bonuses will always be a means of attraction for Every player, especially when they say that they will welcome them with a 100% Bonus of what they deposit, and so, what happens is that when withdrawing, the requirements to do so are Quite hard and difficult to understand, for many players it seems that sometimes they steal their money with the bonuses, because they play and play, and end up Losing Everything.

But if you are dealing with a casino which does have that reputation and credibility then guaranteed you are the ones who had missed out on reading up those terms and condition which it is usually found on the time that you would really be making out some registration on which ticking out that check box does basically means that you have understood all of those things that been written. Even myself is really that guilty on skipping out on reading this pile of text most of the time on which it isnt really just that limited to gambling but also in other platforms or services as well.

They do have the full rights on locking or pending up transactions if they wont really be able to reach out a particular threshold on which if you are dealing whether mainly with your deposit or dealing up with those bonuses then it would really be just that normal that they would really be setting out those wagering requirements before you could be able to withdraw. They cant really just make you able to deposit
and pull out right away those funds in speaking about money laundering and same goes for bonuses on which they cant really just give free money for free since  this is a business which its
just that common sense.

Yes, in everything you have said you are right, we as players must always stick to what to play and what we can participate in, regarding the type of bonus that casinos can offer, they always have conditions, whether good or bad, but they must exist because they can't be free, mistakenly I had always seen that the bonuses were something to help us like playing and that they were totally free, that is to say, before when I was a newbie and they offered me a bonus I thought that this bonus was given without the need for do so many things

The casinos must do something when the bonuses are offered and that may be that when they have those bonuses they have some letters of warning of the conditions that must be met so that later they do not go through bad times, once a bonus is accepted there is nothing to do do but adapt to everything that should be done.

When there are many things in common in a bonus, such as 100% that they offer or something like that, many are excited, because if you deposit 100usd and then the balance reaches 200usd just to play, it is something that anyone does very well, but particularly the casniso that offer the bonuses have some high, medium, or low wager, I personally know how my abilities are, and what I can say is that when I see wager above 1x things don't work for me, first I start playing bad, I lose a lot because it makes me desperate, apart from when I'm playing patience is one of the things that I almost don't have, and that doesn't help me because in a bonus it's a matter of having a lot of patience.

The bonuses for me are something that I have not been able to take advantage of properly, but personally I am a person who does not take them, because I know what my style of play is like, it would also be a source of stress for me, it can only be with slots, because with slots it's something else, however I still wouldn't risk it, because I usually put in 10usd to be able to enjoy as I like, and the truth is I don't mind losing them because I like to enjoy, I see it as a service.

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You mentioned wagering requirements and other things, and you're right, that's where everything gets complicated. Most people simply plunge in and then experience a rude awakening. They are trapped. However, this is not a snare; it is simply the way things are. If you don't read before you jump, you won't know where you'll land, isn't that the case?

Straight to the point, it's your fault when you just check and click I agree or I confirm without reading what inside the users and agreement, I like that description there no excuse with your laziness, unless the casino that you are signing to play is design just for scamming people, they will make it looks good and clean but behind that rules even you read everything is the hook to allure gamblers to use the platform, very common with bonus offers that too good to be true.

It's not because they don't understand the rules, it's because they've never read the rules. Rules are not written in Chinese. Most gamblers will just click on : I've read the rules and agree to comply..
It's not the service provider's fault. It's the customer's fault. You need to read every contract befaure signing it.
Read the ToS. Being lazy is not an excuse.

Well when it comes to the issues of bonuses we must come to the agreement that all bonuses are subject to some condition and the gambler while agreeing to take the bonus should be aware of those conditions and this is something that we all have to understand,  For as far as bonuses are concern it must be done with the consciousness of the fact that there are not free and the gambler must be a wee of that fact.

More also I prefer to avoid bonuses in most cases this is because of the underlying conditions that come with those bonuses,  such as wagering condition and even the wagering condition we still need to be aware of the various categories of them also and this is what everyone must understand,  so for me is better I deposit money without trying to claim any bonus so that I will avoid all the conditions that come with those bonuses.

So in most cases, I don't blame the casino for having such stringent rules as a concern to their bonuses which is something that is common to all casinos but more also is the fact that most newbies don't read those rules and all that is in their mind is how to claim the free money and in the end, the end up regretting when they meet what conditions they have to abide by using those bonuses.

When it comes to terms and conditions or common practices or rules then every casinos are really that almost identical into each other on which some people would really be that assume out that it would really be just the same but the fact that there might be some slight differences on which it might really be that pertaining into some values or like wagering times or KYC additional information or documents or excluded countries in terms of
prohibitions and exclusions on which these are the only things i do see that it would really be that different into each other when it comes to their terms and conditions on which you might be missing out on reading,
knowing that majority of gamblers wouldnt really care out on reading these information on the time that they would really be engaging or playing on a certain site. Usually people would really be getting shocked on the time that they would be making out some deposits and on the time that they wont be able to make out some withdrawal due to wagering requirement then this is the time that they would really be reading up those terms
but its already too late. They would really be needing to comply or else they wont really be able to pull out those funds on which it is really that just that normal on where you do need to follow on whats been asked out.

Well we all know the general purpose of every casino is to have fun that is something we know and at some point we all have to see it like this because otherwise we can't see it it's also not appropriate some newbies think there is a casino for see it as an ATM and things are not like that, they should see it as fun, in addition to things in casinos if we don't see it as fun but as work or something like that, that is something that we must be clear about, when we have a consensus that the casino is just for fun, our brain can give an idea that it is not just to win or win, that it is accepted that if there is fun there is a high possibility of losing.

In all casinos we always see bonuses, contests where they offer a lot of money, it is obvious that this attracts anyone, because they say, with a minimum quota I have the opportunity to deny all this, because it seems like a great business to me, what happens is that when These things happen like this, the demands are very high to be able to make a profit, it is normal, in no casino under any circumstances are things regulated, everything has to work, play and see how it can be done, increase your balance, that is what the casinos do casinos.

When I started in the casinos, I thought that a bonus was money that the casino gave out for free, in my ignorance I saw that this could be possible, but no, things are different and it is obvious that everything tends and must be work, unless there's something more like a contest or something.

I know that many players who are newbies think that the bonuses are free and that they give it to you and that it can be withdrawn later , and this is something that tends to confuse , I Understand something, when I read the word bonus it means that it is a gift, but here in the casinos the word bonus is another definition, I have always said that the word "Bonus" should be changed to "Conditional Bonus" so people know that it will not be free , there are more words but it is Somewhat more efficient , besides As I have already said , newbies Would not fall into Errors.

Rules are rule regardless and ignorance of them is not an excuse, it is expected of the gambler to make sure to read all the rules and regulations of the casino and try as much as possible to abide with them, so i am against the assertion that casinos hide their rules from the gamblers because everything that the gambler need to know iswrittenn on the site so there are no two ways about that and since it is written, it becomes binding law against the players.


On the contrary to the belief that casinos use bonuses to attract players without them knowing that the casino has strange laws because every bonus comes with its terms and conditions and is expected that those terms and conditions are properly spelt out for the gambler so before you sign up for the bonus you already know what will be facing you at the end, knowing helps the gambler to prepare their mind ahead before signing up for the bonuses.

My conclusion on this is:


The issue of wagering requirements is not a negotiable thing in gambling most especially in licensed casinos that are regulatory compliance.

That is one of the marketing strategy of a casino as we all know that they won't tell the gambler or player the truth about their rules and regulations, while the gamblers fault when they will fall in this kind of trap is that they are too greedy to play they don't watch their moves first so after they realize they will felt regret which is once they are not in greedy mode then they will have the chance to avoid that kind of mistake.

    -     Most of the gamblers don't notice and think about that as long as the money comes in and they play the game right away.

Then in the end they will realize that the rules of the casino are like that when they are told that it is usually too late before they regret why they put money into the gambling casino. So it is still very important that they know the terms and conditions so that they are aware of things that should not or should be allowed by the casino platform.

If he is a gambler who actively gambles on any gambling site, he usually only needs to read it on one of the gambling sites because of course the rules at other casinos will not be much different either, after all it would be ridiculous to protest about what is already in the rules, mostly a beginner who don't understand and just register then make a deposit to play.

The average beginner doesn't have time to read it because maybe they think it's just normal rules even though everything he plays has rules including wagering requirements as well as withdrawals, not to mention deposit bonuses, all have requirements without exception, that's why it's important for this thread to awaken beginners to be more carefully read the requirements information or TOS on their site before registering.

Well, the fact is that many, or rather, most gamblers don't read terms and conditions of most of the gambling casinos they play on, even though they are always the first to advice other gambler to always read terms and conditions of every casino before depositing money and playing on the casino to avoid problems.

I myself cannot lie about being a participant to such, I mean, I mostly don't read casino terms of service or conditions before playing there, mostly the popular ones of course, since I don't frequently play on new casinos, and the truth is that, I've never had any issues with any of he casinos I play on, but i still do not fail to advice other gambler to make sure to read the terms and condition of the casino they want to play on, simply because I believe they might not be as lucky as i am, and more clearly, the way i play games on casinos, which made me not to have had any problems with them, might not be the same way they will play, so this is why even though i do not usually read terms an conditions, i still advice others to do.