Topic: ["WAIT LIST"] BFL SC Pre-Order Information (Monarch orders too!) - page 32. (Read 136393 times)

FUD

Why do you think that BFL doesn't give out how many have actually ordered? I was thinking about ordering some more sc mini rigs, but how do we know that they haven't sold 500 TH's worth or more? I wont be buying any more until I get more info on what has been sold and to see what other companies are doing. For all we know, a  sc mini rig may only be worth 1k dollars or so.. Not 30k..

I think its not smart to invest any more into BFL right now. Not until we get a good idea of what the difficulty/BFL sales) is going to be... I'm already gambling, even though my orders were placed in the first month.

Those that are purchasing anything from here on out are REALLY taking a risk....

I bet that the price sc mini rig will be dramatically lower. Whos going to invest 30k when its impossible to ever recoup that much?

Now its a wait and see game..

BTW, as to order  numbers being wrong, I totally believe that the are grossly overestimated. When I was ordering, I actually placed like 4 or 5 different orders until everything was figured out and i made my decision on what to actually pay for...I guarantee that many people made just totally bogus numbers to mess with people and others were undecided and just haven't paid, etc. Only BFL knows the exact orders and they aint talkin'...

09/11/2012    7782    Y  0    1  0       -    -    mitak64

This was my plan, LOL, I don't think anyone read "just for fun" at the top.

SHHH! Stop being reasonable - I'd rather have everyone think that we'll be at 900TH in two months and stop ordering more ASICs!

8/08/2012     4769     N     0     1     0       -     -     Joshwaa
8/14/2012     5210     N     0     1     0       -     -     Joshwaa

I'm in complete agreement with you - at this point projections based on what we know are purely conjecture, but there's several points that aid in grounding. 

First off we know that not every order goes through successfully (this being noted by several in this post already). 

Next, the point about people making purchases being aware of this thread is highly likely, leaving three reasons for not posting (1) Apathy, (2) Desire to be anonymous, (3) Waiting to hit 5 hour mark so they can post.  For the majority making a rig purchase, they're probably more likely than not forum members for a while ( assume if they are making ~30k purchase they have some interest in bitcointalk) so that places them in either category 1 or 2.  Most purchases un-reported I think are likely singles or jalapeños at low volume who are newer members (including myself). 

Finally, I think that there's several who are interested but don't go through with the purchase (even when the order is working correctly), just because they're unsure about going through with the transaction until there's a solid delivery. 

Ultimately, I believe BFL will deliver (otherwise I wouldn't have made an order), and they're ramping up for much higher volume on this product line.  But I think we won't see difficulty get to a point where mining isn't viable or profitable on ASICs in the next year - as of now ASICs aren't "off-the-shelf" mining equipment, there's a large number of potential customers waiting on a delivery before orders are being made.  The difficulty will increase, I just don't think to that degree within the year - if it does mining will decrease until it becomes financially lucrative for most miners, either way interesting times ahead!

Sorry a little late on this as well -

08/01/2012  4241 N      1       0      0      -       -       kroneko
08/04/2012  4479 N      0       1      0      -       -       kroneko

You are assuming that each and every order in the system was actually real and paid for.

I think it would be closer to about 3-5 times what is reported here since every person looking at BFL is most likely aware of this thread.

So, 3 times 30TH = 90TH.   And, that is probably at absolute most, since most orders went in at the beginning (especially for the Mini rigs).
REPORTED Orders have trailed off significantly even though the order numbers have increased.

Came back to post that I'd recieved mine and realized I'd posted my order info into the wrong thread originally. Sorry about that, I ordered 3 Bitforce singles. You can take my entry out of the list:

08/01/2012  4329  N  0  3  0  -  -  Chalkbot

If we believed current orders is a constant then (at time of post)

Just for fun mind:-

5821 orders we know 185 (5821/185=31.4648) times this by total TH ordered so far (31.4648*30.2475=951.731538)

so If it was taken seriously would be just under 952TH. WOW LOL.

so 951.731538*0.1396983916718426=132861722.7048 difficulty  (0.1396983916718426 is difficulty per Mhs)

A 1TH rig would get you 951/1800=0.5283333333333333BTC Per day

Baring in mind all deliveries would have to be instant LOL!

welcome to the club lol

8/18/2012,-,Y,0,0,1,-,- tytus

9/07/12, 7476, N, 1, 0, 0,- fcx35x10
-posting for a friend

9/06/12, 7431, N, 0, 1, 0,- fcx35x10   

order number was on my receipt, didnt you keep yours??
i paid with bitcoins

btw...Date Paid:11 August 2012, 06 Sept 2012
Order Number: 4996,7357
Trade-In (Y/N): N
Qty SC Jalapeno: 2
Qty SC Single: -
Qty SC Mini Rig: -

srry for the confusion

@ hashalfahalve, I had to bug them for my 4 digit order #, but I have found them reasonably responsive on email

@davinci, sweet man, sweet

Order #6535 for two Jalapeños was created and paid on 29 Aug 12.

Yeah 17 days at the Viceroy in Anguilla, I got the 3600sq feet 3brm Penthouse suite.  When I saw it... brother didn't know how to act when the bell hop was showing us the place. 

we got upgraded from this room...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN_JeYUOZf0

Need to take the time to put together a video of the our upgrade.

That was a long vacation.