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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 119. (Read 26711345 times)

legendary
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Or perhaps, the journalists are reporting a load of bullshit, because they didn't understand, either.

Of course if the scientists at Google could be so kind to explain specifically which kind of calculation this machine is performing - say, naming a well-known algorithm for some complex problem, or showing us the equivalent non-quantum code - then someone might be able to figure it out. I hope they will publish the details soonish.

right...solve something anybody could understand, but, please, stay away from SHA-256, albeit they are still 1-2 orders of qubits numbers away.

back to bitcoin: i was looking at the numbers at the beginning of cycle 9-maybe somewhere in 2036 (most likely early 2036 or even late 2035 aka 11.5-12 years, typically):
at the start of cycle 9 there would be 20917968.75 bitcoins in circulation (99.6% already issued)
and 0.1953 btc/block (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Controlled_supply).

Let's assume btc power use increases 20% a year from now, so about 10X in 12 years.
I think that these are realistic and maybe minimal numbers considering that energy use by bitcoin climbed at about 60-65% per year average during the last 7 years.
The minimal price should be current minimal profitability price of say, about (50K)X10X (increase in power use)X(3.25/0.1953)(this is a coefficient of reduction in block size)=$8.3mil/btc, which is quite close to the numbers being talked about elsewhere..

legendary
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Or perhaps, the journalists are reporting a load of bullshit, because they didn't understand, either.

Of course if the scientists at Google could be so kind to explain specifically which kind of calculation this machine is performing - say, naming a well-known algorithm for some complex problem, or showing us the equivalent non-quantum code - then someone might be able to figure it out. I hope they will publish the details soonish.
legendary
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OT: Google's quantum computer.
https://techcrunch.com/2024/12/10/google-says-its-new-quantum-chip-indicates-that-multiple-universes-exist/
and
https://blog.google/technology/research/google-willow-quantum-chip/


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Willow’s performance on this benchmark is astonishing: It performed a computation in under five minutes that would take one of today’s fastest supercomputers 1025 or 10 septillion years. If you want to write it out, it’s 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years. This mind-boggling number exceeds known timescales in physics and vastly exceeds the age of the universe. It lends credence to the notion that quantum computation occurs in many parallel universes, in line with the idea that we live in a multiverse, a prediction first made by David Deutsch.

The logic of this is difficult to follow for me: they claim that the fact that their quantum computer is so much faster than the regular computer (does something in 5min that "regular"supercomputer can only do in 10^25 years, which is roughly 1 million billion times longer than our Universe existed somehow indicates that the quantum computer uses parallel universes to do the calculations. This just does not seem right to me.

However, I can imagine the quantum computer "spawning" those universes, maybe virtually, to "help" it's calculations.
Otherwise, it is not clear to me how it managed to link up with those preexisting universes as there is nothing there that one might consider an interface.
I read the D. Deutsch book, but the argument there was just as unclear. Perhaps, I am just not getting it.
legendary
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Meh.
developers backstabbed the entire ecosystem by giving everyone the finger after segwit was activated instead of doing what they agreed to do in the New York Agreement

segwit2x and that "agreement" would have killed everything BTC stands for. I can appreciate early RV and what he did but the full on bcash sellout will always trump anything else. Am I making shit up now or didn't he even go as far as saying that he knew craig was satoshi??
donator
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
I urge everyone to watch Roger Ver’s interview with Tucker Carlson discussing the hijacking of Bitcoin, censorship, and the United States government’s overreach. I also think if you care about Bitcoin or freedom, you should sign his petition at https://www.freerogernow.org/ as Roger does not deserve life in prison.

Tucker Carlson - HIJACKED: https://youtu.be/dbLHXOipQN4


Fuck Bcash  Grin

It really is sad seeing this attitude in the community.  I think people who were around in 2011 know that Roger was one of the greatest assets in Bitcoin's history.  Without him, I don't think Bitcoin would have seen the success that it did early on.  Sure, he made some mistakes.  "Bcash" wasn't one of them though.  Open source projects can be forked and after developers backstabbed the entire ecosystem by giving everyone the finger after segwit was activated instead of doing what they agreed to do in the New York Agreement, it was not only the right thing to do, it was necessary.  We all likely profited from it as well and at worst we were given an additional option.  I hope that whatever happens, history remembers Roger and Gavin (Andresen) as the pioneers they are.  Without both of them, I may have never even pursued Bitcoin as a serious thing.
legendary
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legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
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legendary
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A lot off topic but had to share with someone cos I'm trying to stay strong for my wife at the moment. Children for us are off the cards due to medical reasons so we've got two beautiful dogs. Unfortunately, our eldest, Nismo, well he's fallen very ill and in a few hours barring a miracle I'll likely be saying goodbye to him for the last time. Back in 2020 he had to have spinal surgery which cost a lot of money (would spend it again in a heartbeat) and BTC helped him there too. Sadly, doesn't look like money will solve the problem today.

If you have dogs, hold them extra tight for me tonight, they really are the greatest gift and best friend. I truly am lucky to have had his light shine on our lives for the last 14 years. I'll post a picture of him later just so everyone can appreciate him and how amazing he was/is

Anyway sorry for the off topic but yeah.... I'm just heartbroken

I just saw this and very sorry for your loss/upcoming loss.
Some people clone their beloved pets.
I could see both sides of the argument: it would be the same dog genetically, but it would have to learn to love you again.
Cost is about 0.5 btc, give or take ($50,000).
I was just recently reading an article about it.
EDIT: just for description..I think the article was saying that they need an ear from the recently deceased pet (not frozen). I don't recall much else apart from the fact that cloning is now very efficient, but dogs are more challenging to clone.
Not sure if i have seen this article or another one:
https://nypost.com/2024/11/14/lifestyle/the-50000-dog-cloning-business-is-booming/


I could never do that, he'd never be the same personality and that's what and where the real love came from but thank you for your condolences. Here are two pictures that capture him perfectly, I know most won't care but that's ok. If any of you do have dogs, please hold them tight for me. Little Nismo is gone now but he lives on in all the treasured memories he left behind

legendary
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I urge everyone to watch Roger Ver’s interview with Tucker Carlson discussing the hijacking of Bitcoin, censorship, and the United States government’s overreach. I also think if you care about Bitcoin or freedom, you should sign his petition at https://www.freerogernow.org/ as Roger does not deserve life in prison.

Tucker Carlson - HIJACKED: https://youtu.be/dbLHXOipQN4


Life in jail sounds a tad too harsh. A few years though...

On the other hand, 41 minutes of his voice is definitely too much.
legendary
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Fuck Cucker Tarlson
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legendary
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Meh.
I urge everyone to watch Roger Ver’s interview with Tucker Carlson discussing the hijacking of Bitcoin, censorship, and the United States government’s overreach. I also think if you care about Bitcoin or freedom, you should sign his petition at https://www.freerogernow.org/ as Roger does not deserve life in prison.

Tucker Carlson - HIJACKED: https://youtu.be/dbLHXOipQN4



Fuck Bcash  Grin
donator
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
I urge everyone to watch Roger Ver’s interview with Tucker Carlson discussing the hijacking of Bitcoin, censorship, and the United States government’s overreach. I also think if you care about Bitcoin or freedom, you should sign his petition at https://www.freerogernow.org/ as Roger does not deserve life in prison.

Tucker Carlson - HIJACKED: https://youtu.be/dbLHXOipQN4
legendary
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legendary
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Explanation
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legendary
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A Bitcoiner chooses. A slave obeys.
I missed dip to 94k yesterday. I put in a small buy at 94.3

I did not cancel it and while I was in NY taking care of my demented bro-in-law I got a notice that I made the buy at 94.3k

I said darn I would probably set another for lower number.

basically the 94.3k was the dip number.

tiny buy as I was bored.

fund it amusing that i ended up hitting the dip I missed and that it was basically the low.

I will set A 93.3 buy for fun.

I have larger numbers for lower dips this is just bored buying.

Buying out of boredom...

This guy is amazing. How can I become like you?

legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
I missed dip to 94k yesterday. I put in a small buy at 94.3

I did not cancel it and while I was in NY taking care of my demented bro-in-law I got a notice that I made the buy at 94.3k

I said darn I would probably set another for lower number.

basically the 94.3k was the dip number.

tiny buy as I was bored.

fund it amusing that i ended up hitting the dip I missed and that it was basically the low.

I will set A 93.3 buy for fun.

I have larger numbers for lower dips this is just bored buying.
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