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legendary
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Be a bank
Hardware wallets are not to be trusted.
Use a FUCKGOATS. http://nosuchlabs.com/
Use an offline comp. http://trilema.com/2013/how-to-airgap-a-practical-guide/
Boil the drive's platter in tomato juice.
legendary
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diamond-handed zealot
I think splitting your coins up amongst various devices, wallets, hardware is the best option. Splitting your risk minimises your chances of ending up like one of those moron’s starting ‘I lost all my coins’ threads on here.

that was the idea

but when it comes time to touch the paper keys I chicken out
legendary
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Flippin' burgers since 1163.
The point in HW is that you never write your words on computer, instead you chose them with the buttons on the HW. They are not accessible in the device neither by you nor by internet in any way. While any solution on computer involves writing the words on computer, which compromises the security.

https://techcrunch.com/2018/03/21/a-15-year-old-hacked-the-secure-ledger-crypto-wallet/
https://saleemrashid.com/2018/03/20/breaking-ledger-security-model/

There are plenty keyloggers and troyans that search everything you type and you don't have a way to protect yourself.

My forever offline and brain dead laptop can have a hundred key loggers, don't care.
legendary
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Friday at last...for all you working schleps out here. Quit looking at the corns price and get back at it.
 
Looks like a good time to buy the dip once this retrace completes. Plenty of strong support at this random .5 fib. I think we could possibly test the .618 level as well. I feel this is just gathering up liquidity and think we are still going over $10k in the near future but please do your own research.


This is just for comedic effect..ok?  DONT PANIC. That being said..it is a possibility but data indicates more upward than downward pressure at this time.
Have to move on from Barts to Thanos formations it looks like.


Some of the points and discussion's over the last several pages are good if opinionated. Just remember without scientific principles bitcoin would not exist. In other words..if you cant believe in math..why are you even here?
Oh..and another smh moment.. The flat earthers believe there is a pac-man effect when walking off the "edge". Haven't heard a good theory for eclipses from them yet..


legendary
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yeah

I got the Trezor here, learned all about it, played with it, there it sits.

Why touch the paper wallet if you don't have to?

I think splitting your coins up amongst various devices, wallets, hardware is the best option. Splitting your risk minimises your chances of ending up like one of those moron’s starting ‘I lost all my coins’ threads on here.

Most people who have been involved in bitcoin for a long time know how to secure their coins though.
legendary
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All good things to those who wait
Hardware wallets terrify me for some reason. Not 100% sold on them yet, being an old crotchety Bitcoin "Core" user from day one. I feel more in control of my encrypted wallet.dat / IT OpSec / interfacing with something I have the option of building from source.

I'm concerned about being locked into a hardware wallet's ecosystem... I really need to look into them more.

Except you just don't do that from a 'hot machine' connected to the Internet. Ever.

Call me old fashioned but I don't like the hardware wallets either. It is still a device with your private keys directly connected to the Internet, multiple issues have been found and patched on the Trezor/Ledger and co.
Therefore (I just) use an old crappy laptop to sign the transaction:

- Rip the wifi/bluetooth/hdd out and boot from USB (using Tails & Electrum/Bitcoin Core for example).
- Create the transaction in your 'online watch only wallet', and cold sign the transaction on the offline laptop. Done.

Bob, please..

The point in HW is that you never write your words on computer, instead you chose them with the buttons on the HW. They are not accessible in the device neither by you nor by internet in any way. While any solution on computer involves writing the words on computer, which compromises the security. There are plenty keyloggers and troyans that search everything you type and you don't have a way to protect yourself.
legendary
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diamond-handed zealot
yeah

I got the Trezor here, learned all about it, played with it, there it sits.

Why touch the paper wallet if you don't have to?
legendary
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Flippin' burgers since 1163.
Hardware wallets terrify me for some reason. Not 100% sold on them yet, being an old crotchety Bitcoin "Core" user from day one. I feel more in control of my encrypted wallet.dat / IT OpSec / interfacing with something I have the option of building from source.

I'm concerned about being locked into a hardware wallet's ecosystem... I really need to look into them more.

Except you just don't do that from a 'hot machine' connected to the Internet. Ever.

Call me old fashioned but I don't like the hardware wallets either. It is still a device with your private keys directly connected to the Internet, multiple issues have been found and patched on the Trezor/Ledger and co.
Therefore (I just) use an old crappy laptop to sign the transaction:

- Rip the wifi/bluetooth/hdd out and boot from USB (using Tails & Electrum/Bitcoin Core for example).
- Create the transaction in your 'online watch only wallet', and cold sign the transaction on the offline laptop. Done.

Bob, please..
hero member
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I have a couple of Ledger Nano S, but don't fully utilize them. By default, it looks like Chrome extensions are the preferred interface, I don't trust that. Electrum on Linux supports it, I trust that more. I keep multiple paper wallets, one per year. If I get to the point of cashing out much, it's helpful to be able to have a hard date on the blockchain of when I owned it. I'm not sure how to incorporate that into Ledger. I know about the optional hidden space.

Opendime hardware looks cool, but it's more of a one-shot thing. Good for basic transfers off-chain. You can't easily back it up, and it may not accept going through the washing machine well.
legendary
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diamond-handed zealot
you catch those wild games Jimbo?
sr. member
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liife threw a tempest at you? be a coconut !
americans /= humans.

What in the actual fuck is your problem ?

that americans intelligence and military services (with the english and french ones) support and fully encourage raping children by the "influentials" like another poster said. they grand them immunity, as with the judges who formalize it and the politicians who are part of the orgies.

I find this state of america very deplorable. And furthermore don't like the right that americans have taken for themselves to indefinite detention anyone they don't like, including maybe Satoshi Nakamoto.

Should I say more? And as your leadership, speculating that your americans want to rule the south china sea, interfer in the story of taiwan and more generally believe to be the policemen of the world (while only supporting rapists) there is a serious stream of data that indicate that : americans /= humans.

I know that most of you have no idea, and as it's impossible for natural human beings not to have a single idea, it makes americans non humans.

Is it clearer? show me the body of hillary clinton, where is john corzine (who looted segregated accounts) and where is jeffrey epstein? harvey is in jail?

you see : AMERICANS /= NON HUMANS.

eating gmos food with toxins has sooner or later consequences.

And if you tell me that it's impossible that the military and intelligence pedophile supporters, and enablers have indefinite without due process jailed satoshi? And that facebook and the others don't combined data (like menstruation cycle) and wage information campaign to sell virgin girls to the highest bidders, You are too dumb and uninformed to watch a wall...

If you can't see, and even if I explain to you, you switch off to your neuroprogramming, which is denial, ridicule or ban, you are defenitly not human anymore Smiley.

good luck... open your eyes before you dies Smiley.
legendary
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legendary
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You're never too old to think young.
Good AM Bitcoinland.

Still over $9.5k I see... currently $9642USD/$12432CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

It'd be nice to see $10k before I hop on the plane tomorrow.

Go Bitcoin go.
sr. member
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Freedom, Natural Law

It's shit like this that keeps me up at night.

Cold sweats and all.

How the fuck can I ever know my Bitcorns are truly secure running on Intel ?

I get nervous every time I need to type in my decryption key to send a payment.

Terrifying.

Do yourself a favor and get a Ledger or Trezor.


Or Digital Bitbox or Keepkey
Bitbox has 2nd dummy wallet with secondary login and passcode and looks just like any usb stick so can be used anywhere without anyone noticing
Keepkey has biggest screen and stylish

legendary
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It's shit like this that keeps me up at night.

Cold sweats and all.

How the fuck can I ever know my Bitcorns are truly secure running on Intel ?

I get nervous every time I need to type in my decryption key to send a payment.

Terrifying.

Dude, we are getting to the point where hardware wallets are not optional. Either buy a hardware wallet and play the bitcoin game or sell your bitcoin and go put your money in wells fargo. Pick one IMO.

I like my trezor but the guys over at coinkite https://coldcardwallet.com/ claim their product will be better due to using secure hardware.
legendary
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Shitcoin Minimalist

It's shit like this that keeps me up at night.

Cold sweats and all.

How the fuck can I ever know my Bitcorns are truly secure running on Intel ?

I get nervous every time I need to type in my decryption key to send a payment.

Terrifying.

Do yourself a favor and get a Ledger or Trezor.

americans /= humans.

What in the actual fuck is your problem ?

legendary
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born once atheist
americans /= humans.

What in the actual fuck is your problem ?

I was wondering that too actually...
legendary
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Free spirit
sr. member
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Freedom, Natural Law
2 more pages on ignore. enviroment, politics, bla, bla, bla. So many sick people around here. It's time for infofront to take some action Smiley delete, ban, delete, ban.

Wallobserver is going down the drain...once more.
Can you spot any walls worth observing at the moment?
legendary
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diamond-handed zealot
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