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legendary
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Imposition of ORder = Escalation of Chaos
Back from a 7 day ban!! Wohoooooooooooo YES We're going to 9k like it or not. Than back to test defending resistance, I call a breakout next run

How the fuck did you get yourself banned in a place that lets fascist roaches roam unchecked?
Must have been a different thread with stricter rules.

There are different threads?  Shocked Huh
sr. member
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The whales control more than you think. They control the floats of all the major altcoins, and peg their trading bots to the Bitcoin price so that small traders "have nowhere to run." That is, they will only pump the coins they want to pump as an out to falling prices elsewhere.

I have to agree with this reading of things. Torque might be a master of paranoid thinking and a conspiracy nut, but more often than not subsequent events agree with his (broad stroked, not numerically pinpointed) predictions.

Ever notice that after a day or two of nothing but down across all cryptos, suddenly out of the blue some random shitcoin that no one expected will start pumping for no reason? Yeah, the whales do that on purpose... to concentrate all of their new $$$ resources on one pump and lure in the gullible.

Couldn 't agree more. Looking at the events where we pump on thin air and drop as a  deflating balloon in a sequence with an almost fixed frequency for no reason connected to the real world is more than explaining enough...
legendary
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Back from a 7 day ban!! Wohoooooooooooo YES We're going to 9k like it or not. Than back to test defending resistance, I call a breakout next run

How the fuck did you get yourself banned in a place that lets fascist roaches roam unchecked?
Must have been a different thread with stricter rules.
legendary
Activity: 2520
Merit: 3038
(snip)
The NUMBERS, JayJuanGee, the NUMBERS! Don't you know we all read your posts just for the juicy probabilities with 4 significant digits after the decimal point??  Angry
Don't remind me.  I am declining in my segregating amalgamated skill-set package (as jbreher might refer to it) and I cannot even keep up.
(snip)
2) buying more BTC, just in case (perhaps 34.8% odds... o.k... im slipping, im slipping), prices go below $6,666.
Not a slip, but a step back into the right direction. But still only 1 digit. Keep working at it!  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1133
Merit: 1163
Imposition of ORder = Escalation of Chaos
Back from a 7 day ban!! Wohoooooooooooo YES We're going to 9k like it or not. Than back to test defending resistance, I call a breakout next run

How the fuck did you get yourself banned in a place that lets fascist roaches roam unchecked?
sr. member
Activity: 595
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Previous attack was on tx fees and mempool congestion, now they are trying with the price???
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
So, I am anticipating that even though you are making recovery plans from the unexpected over correction of 70% down to $5,920 that you are going to be in a much better position to really restructure your plan as BTC gets back up and maybe even becoming more solid in your approach as we assume the ATH again (assuming that we accomplish such either this year or a worse bull case scenario would be that it takes longer than a year to get above ATH again).... yeah, yeah, yeah, Beara readers, I understand also that there are also bear scenarios that could cause worse outcomes, even though I believe that a lot of us in this thread, including yours truly put a bit more weight on the probability of bull scenarios in the coming year rather than bear scenarios..

The NUMBERS, JayJuanGee, the NUMBERS! Don't you know we all read your posts just for the juicy probabilities with 4 significant digits after the decimal point??  Angry

Don't remind me.  I am declining in my segregating amalgamated skill-set package (as jbreher might refer to it) and I cannot even keep up.  

I am thinking that I might have to attend a kind of statistics and probabilities re-education camp, until then I can't really apologize for my contentical lackings because I cannot guarantee that it won't happen again.   Cry Cry

Your post has now inspired me to begin outlining some guidelines for myself to put aside some funds for either: 1) statistics and probabilities re-education camp and/or 2) buying more BTC, just in case (perhaps 34.8% odds... o.k... im slipping, im slipping), prices go below $6,666.
legendary
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The whales control more than you think. They control the floats of all the major altcoins, and peg their trading bots to the Bitcoin price so that small traders "have nowhere to run." That is, they will only pump the coins they want to pump as an out to falling prices elsewhere.

I have to agree with this reading of things. Torque might be a master of paranoid thinking and a conspiracy nut, but more often than not subsequent events agree with his (broad stroked, not numerically pinpointed) predictions.

Ever notice that after a day or two of nothing but down across all cryptos, suddenly out of the blue some random shitcoin that no one expected will start pumping for no reason? Yeah, the whales do that on purpose... to concentrate all of their new $$$ resources on one pump and lure in the gullible.
legendary
Activity: 2520
Merit: 3038
Also once again.

Notice

How

Everything

Is Pegged

To

Bitcoin

I remember a time when it was the complete opposite.
Any explanations on this development?

The whales control more than you think. They control the floats of all the major altcoins, and peg their trading bots to the Bitcoin price so that small traders "have nowhere to run." That is, they will only pump the coins they want to pump as an out to falling prices elsewhere.

I have to agree with this reading of things. Torque might be a master of paranoid thinking and a conspiracy nut, but more often than not subsequent events agree with his (broad stroked, not numerically pinpointed) predictions.
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1029
Huge motherfucking wall after popping up on stamp at $10100

And now another @$9400 on the buy side. Probably the same guy/group.
Much manipulation

sounds like it if the wall is a similar size - nice little bit of volatility today - hasn't reversed the dominance trend so far - most alts (at least the ones I'm trading) are still dropping for now
legendary
Activity: 2520
Merit: 3038
Also once again.

Notice

How

Everything

Is Pegged

To

Bitcoin

I remember a time when it was the complete opposite.
Any explanations on this development?

I like your theory:

Bitcoin

To

Is Pegged

Everything

How
Why
U
Yoda
Like
Talk?
legendary
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I know offtopic posts are frowned upon here, and some topics are more off than other, but I'll risk it.

Have you heard about cryptocurrencies? Well there's this nifty thing called bitcoin, it's my favorite.
It's holding 10.5 k-ish.


What is that supposed to mean?  You are bullish and hoping, or what?
I was expressing sarcastic discontent with all the racial/save the earth/left/right irrelevant talk, just trying to steer discussion into honey badger related territory.   Tongue

Nice to see you're (still, always) on it! Grin

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Let me ask you a semi-personal question which is a kind of after-the-fact assessment regarding how you faired through our dip down to $6k?  Are you of the opinion that you largely ran out of money to buy BTC between $6k and $8k, even though you were able to buy some BTC in those price ranges?  Were you able to adjust some of your strategy in order to possibly better prepare in the future, or are you largely hoping that we are out of this downward price pickle?
I almost ran out. I kept placing buy orders hoping/thinking "it can't possibly go much lower than this". So I accumulated quite a bit (well, everything is relative) barely shy of selling grandma to buy moar.

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Let me report my own personal scenario from the mid-September 2017 40% correction down from $4,980 to $2,970 - which was that after going through that situation, I had to readjust a considerable amount of my preparations, which actually caused me to oversell a bit from our BTC rebounding back up from $2,970, and really I did not feel that I completely recuperated until we started to break upwards back into new ATHs.. and then the icing on the cake restructuring came for me around 2x higher in the $10k arena and further more when we passed $15k which allowed a fuckload of restructuring and even added cockiness....
Good for you. I wasn't as forward-looking (or well funded?) as you, but I managed to do fairly well.

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So, I am anticipating that even though you are making recovery plans from the unexpected over correction of 70% down to $5,920 that you are going to be in a much better position to really restructure your plan as BTC gets back up and maybe even becoming more solid in your approach as we assume the ATH again (assuming that we accomplish such either this year or a worse bull case scenario would be that it takes longer than a year to get above ATH again).... yeah, yeah, yeah, Beara readers, I understand also that there are also bear scenarios that could cause worse outcomes, even though I believe that a lot of us in this thread, including yours truly put a bit more weight on the probability of bull scenarios in the coming year rather than bear scenarios..

The NUMBERS, JayJuanGee, the NUMBERS! Don't you know we all read your posts just for the juicy probabilities with 4 significant digits after the decimal point??  Angry

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and that is part of the reason that we are in bitcoin and part of the reason why we get so freaking excited about bitcoin.
If only that reckless badger would stop drinking and driving... eh Hairy guy?
sr. member
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Huge motherfucking wall after popping up on stamp at $10100

And now another @$9400 on the buy side. Probably the same guy/group.
Much manipulation


Motherfuckersss Lets get them those hooooo's
legendary
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Huge motherfucking wall after popping up on stamp at $10100

And now another @$9400 on the buy side. Probably the same guy/group.
Much manipulation
legendary
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Merit: 7912
So Whats going on guys? Can someone explain?

 UnDerDoG81 just became happy with what he has rather than wait an eternity (a whole year) for the inevitable.

legendary
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Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist
Also once again.

Notice

How

Everything

Is Pegged

To

Bitcoin

I remember a time when it was the complete opposite.
Any explanations on this development?

I like your theory:

Bitcoin

To

Is Pegged

Everything

How
legendary
Activity: 3780
Merit: 5429
Also once again.

Notice

How

Everything

Is Pegged

To

Bitcoin

I remember a time when it was the complete opposite.
Any explanations on this development?

The whales control more than you think. They control the floats of all the major altcoins, and peg their trading bots to the Bitcoin price so that small traders "have nowhere to run." That is, they will only pump the coins they want to pump as an out to falling prices elsewhere.

legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 7912
Question is, sell now and be happy with what you have or just go full risk and wait until end 2018 or 2019 :/

qft

 I have a hard time believing that quantum field theory is going to help in this instance.  It'll just complicate matters further because infinite degrees of freedom can easily lead to divergences of calculated quantities!
member
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Also once again.

Notice

How

Everything

Is Pegged

To

Bitcoin

I remember a time when it was the complete opposite.
Any explanations on this development?
legendary
Activity: 2520
Merit: 3038
Some time ago we had a discussion here about a possible issue with the Lightning Network. Some big blocker was suggesting that the Lightning Network is doomed to fail because routing and because problems.

The potential problem is similar to a double spend attempt. Briefly and roughly: Alice has a channel with Bob, Alice sends funds to Bob and while Bob is offline she broadcasts the channel state as it was before she spent the funds, thus undoing the spend. However, if anyone broadcasts the correct (later) channel state, Alice is done: the whole channel balance goes to Bob. Serves her right for trying to cheat.

The problem is, if Bob's offline he knows nothing about Alice's wrongdoings, so there must be someone watching the channel for him. This someone could be rewarded by Bob with part of the funds if cheating is discovered (and therefore funds are gained by Bob). I speculated that a bounty market could come into existence. It seems there are already some bounty hunters in the present, clunky version of the LN. They are doing it for free at the moment, since the cost of watching a few channels is negligible.

It's in the comments. The video itself is technical. Mention of the bounty hunters was the topic that spurred the most attention in the discussion.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/7xrq5g/lightning_network_and_discreet_log_contracts/

I'm guessing that I may be the aforementioned big blocker. What with our continued conversations over my skepticism and all.
Yes jbreher, that's you. I didn't mention your name explicitly to avoid a tide of ad-hominem noise, but it seems you don't care that much.

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Thanks for posting. I'll read.

There's a lot of layers here. As just one example: 'how much channel state is exposed to outsiders to allow such to police random actors?' But I'll reserve detailed discussion until after I land.
I'll read more carefully, too. I just gave a glance to the top posts. But more importantly, I'd like to listen to the talk on video. It seems rich with technical details, but I really can't stand lengthy videos. I much prefer the organized written form for complex content.
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