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afbitcoins

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Quote from: arklan on November 07, 2017, 12:05:03 PM

I'm very not liking all this uncertainty around the fork/CME starting up. Everything I'm seeing suggests Segwit2x will have a small amount of miners, but people are talking doom.

I don't get it.

Two segwit branches fighting over 1M or 2M blocks feels irrelevant to me on a technical level. Both are almost the same, the diff in block size between 1M and 2M isn't that big. Its more like a battle of egos or a battle to gain control of the bitcoin brand, or an attempt to sack the core developers. Honey Badger don't care.

Or

From another point of view the problem is that forks are muddying the water, bitcoin as a concept was once clear but now is not. Additionally the limit of 21million has been cloned to 42million to 63million and so on, of different types. So far bitcoin (or the chain that is perceived to be bitcoin) is continuing on happily but the seeds are being sown for the crypto winter to come.

Is that the DOOOM you speak of?

conspirosphere.tk

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Bitcoin is antisemitic

Quote from: Arriemoller on November 07, 2017, 10:38:25 AM

You don't consider Coionomi safe?

I consider it safe enough to try to import my old wallets' btc keys (after moving my btc) and keep some of my alts in, so I'm going to try with that.

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bitcoinunlimited

Did I miss a fork with more free money in?

JimboToronto

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You're never too old to think young.

Quote from: arklan on November 07, 2017, 12:05:03 PM

I'm very not liking all this uncertainty around the fork/CME starting up. Everything I'm seeing suggests Segwit2x will have a small amount of miners, but people are talking doom.

I don't get it.

No doom from me. When I talk about a new pre-fork bottom I'm just anticipating the usual short-lived panic of weaklings and the reallocation of coins that were bought to be in on the fork.

I have no doubt that all my old paper wallets will increase in value.

afbitcoins

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Quote from: Elwar on November 07, 2017, 11:34:53 AM

Quote from: Lopumbo on November 07, 2017, 10:52:16 AM

Quote from: EtihadBitcoin on November 07, 2017, 10:46:26 AM

So you want bitcoinunlimited to replace it and the core?

well, name me a coin that is

completely private (hides transactions, amounts, adresses etc.)
this includes fungibility
no transaction malleability
adaptive blocksize
faster difficulty adjustment
is asic proof
has inflation

... Kiss

You had me until "has inflation"

Federal Reserve Notes?

Has inflation (of supply ) which decays over time at a pre-determined rate

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1397456

arklan

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I'm very not liking all this uncertainty around the fork/CME starting up. Everything I'm seeing suggests Segwit2x will have a small amount of miners, but people are talking doom.

I don't get it.

JimboToronto

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You're never too old to think young.

Good morning Bitcoinland.

Still consolidating after yesterday's correction/profit-taking... currently $7054USD/$9027CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

AltCash also down a bit at $612USD/$780CAD (Coinmarketcap).

It looks like it doesn't want to go below $7k for long though. Is this a new bottom, at least until the fork?

Elwar

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Viva Ut Vivas

Quote from: Lopumbo on November 07, 2017, 10:52:16 AM

Quote from: EtihadBitcoin on November 07, 2017, 10:46:26 AM

So you want bitcoinunlimited to replace it and the core?

well, name me a coin that is

completely private (hides transactions, amounts, adresses etc.)
this includes fungibility
no transaction malleability
adaptive blocksize
faster difficulty adjustment
is asic proof
has inflation

... Kiss

You had me until "has inflation"

Federal Reserve Notes?

Arriemoller

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Cлaвa Укpaїнi!

Quote from: qwertybit on November 07, 2017, 10:46:36 AM

Inquisitive whether 6k desire mastery as an alternative of 7k. Dead reckoning equitable and be rewarded.

Google translate?

Lopumbo

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Quote from: EtihadBitcoin on November 07, 2017, 10:46:26 AM

So you want bitcoinunlimited to replace it and the core?

well, name me a coin that is

completely private (hides transactions, amounts, adresses etc.)
this includes fungibility
no transaction malleability
adaptive blocksize
faster difficulty adjustment
is asic proof
has inflation

... Kiss

qwertybit

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Inquisitive whether 6k desire mastery as an alternative of 7k. Dead reckoning equitable and be rewarded.

EtihadBitcoin

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Quote from: Lopumbo on November 07, 2017, 10:41:50 AM

come on...go down! I totally forgot to buy some in the 5500-7000 range Cheesy

I wonder when most people realize that bitcoin is one of the technically most inferior coins out there Tongue

So you want bitcoinunlimited to replace it and the core?

Lopumbo

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come on...go down! I totally forgot to buy some in the 5500-7000 range Cheesy

I wonder when most people realize that bitcoin is one of the technically most inferior coins out there Tongue

Arriemoller

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Cлaвa Укpaїнi!

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on November 07, 2017, 08:18:18 AM

Quote from: Searing on November 07, 2017, 07:41:30 AM

anyway, my 'rationalization' on HODL

What I would dump at the first chance given is my B2X coins, bitgold, and any other BTC forks that comes along.
I just need a safe way to do it.

You don't consider Coionomi safe?

Higher Altitude

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Price hovering around $7000. Good entry point, almost 10% down from ATH. I'm waiting for lower lows. With the imminent uncertainty I'm sure we'll get some more buying opportunities. Cool

jojo69

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diamond-handed zealot

wow, all this uncertainty and we are holding 7K ish. I was looking for a short term exit point (very small % JJG) but HODL has never done me wrong

also, I agree with ragnar0k, bitconnect needs to up their porn game

ragnar0k

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Quote from: AlcoHoDL on November 07, 2017, 12:34:15 AM

Quote from: Rosewater Foundation on November 07, 2017, 12:27:19 AM

"conferences about Bitcoin"
https://youtu.be/CHhcy_QQghU?t=13m15s

W T F is that guys? Out of all the videos, only the first one was bearable (this one: https://youtu.be/hXRhIXp4idM), thanks to the pretty girls... How is it possible that people fall for this sh*t?

Damn!

Not skimpy enough for me, I'll pass on bitconnect this time :/

conspirosphere.tk

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Bitcoin is antisemitic

Quote from: Dabs on November 07, 2017, 08:40:11 AM

Quote from: conspirosphere.tk on November 07, 2017, 08:18:18 AM

What I would dump at the first chance given is my B2X coins, bitgold, and any other BTC forks that comes along.
I just need a safe way to do it.

Try this?

1. Move coins to an address you control pre-fork.
2. Wait for fork.
3. After the fork, move BTC coins to another address you control. This is the time you apply any opt-in replay protection, or if there is none, just do it anyway.
4. Move your fork coins to another fork coin address. You should be able to do this unless it got replayed on the fork chain, in which case you move that to another address.
5. It's possible you may have to repeat 3 and 4 until one or the other chain doesn't recognize the transaction anymore or the coins are split into different addresses.

The time between 3 and 4 should be right after each other, so before you do that you should already have the fork client wallet running and synchronized with the fork chain.

It's safe because you control all private keys at all points in time, even without replay protection.

Sounds good, thanks. But for 4. I will need the proper wallet for the forked coins.

lightfoot

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I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)

Quote from: AlcoHoDL on November 07, 2017, 12:34:15 AM

W T F is that guys? Out of all the videos, only the first one was bearable (this one: https://youtu.be/hXRhIXp4idM), thanks to the pretty girls... How is it possible that people fall for this sh*t?

Damn!

Go to any bar, you will see what stupid things people do for pretty girls.

Trick is these guys are not aiming those ads at you, they are aiming them at people far dumber than you.

Meantime bitcoin seems stuck at 7200-ish, but Litecoin may finally be doing something. Quiet day....

Torque

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Karartma1

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What I've learned with Bitcoin so far.

Store your keys securely.
Buy forget rinse and repeat! Buy forget rinse and repeat!
Store your keys securely.
Don't rely on exchanges too much.
Don't tell anybody you have bitcoin, tell them you have eth (always pretend something else).
Buy forget rinse and repeat!

Get to know how to use Bitcorn and
BE FREE

And enjoy the right music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtVBCG6ThDk

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