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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 16237. (Read 26725859 times)

legendary
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"Coinbase made a startling revelation Friday in its FAQ section, where it claimed that Bitcoin Gold (BTG) has already privately forked. The private fork occurred “at a point known only to the Bitcoin Gold development team.” The newly minted digital currency will be made publicly available when the Bitcoin blockchain reaches block no. 491,407. That’s estimated to occur Wednesday."

w/e  Cheesy
legendary
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2) You could move your coins before the fork to a paper wallet, and then after the fork move them back to the Trezor, BTCGold should be left on the paper wallet.


Didn't the snapshot happen already? Anyway I heard it was today...



BTG countdown timer:

http://btcgpu.org/



COINBASE CLAIMS BTCGold LAUNCHED ALREADY!  http://www.newsbtc.com/2017/10/21/coinbase-claims-bitcoin-gold-fork-already-taken-place/
legendary
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This friend asked me around 6 weeks ago how to buy bitcoin so I sent him all the information he needed but without the preaching. In my mind preaching about bitcoin is a bit 2013 for me and not something I do anymore ...


You're a better person than me - a few months ago some loved ones asked me about Bitcoin after ridiculing/ignoring my interest in it since 2014. I said I'd be happy to help, then couldn't resist a little "well well, look at this, how the tide has turned, how ironic, oooh" moment. Totally put them off and never heard Bitcoin mentioned again.

Let this be a lesson to those that don't know, save the self-congratulatory back patting for r/bitcoin, or just never.



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Do I bother to help?

I would say yes do please still help, when it comes to Bitcoin/crypto the more the merrier. The thing is not to feel invested in your friends choices: if your friend wants to trade his coin away then that's his decision, it's all part of the journey. One day he'll stumble upon a sound investment strategy (or he'll ask you  Wink ) and who knows maybe he'll become a zealot too!

Be a faucet. Send some milliBits his way. Lead a horse to water. That's probably the best thing imo.

I sent $5 - $50 worth of BTC to several friends about 3 years ago. It's worth about 18x more now.   Cheesy  They're definitely into it now.
Funny b/c a mBTC then is was worth $5 now last week.



BTW MOST of those friends are women, to all the cavemen here.  I think my method of onboarding women to BTC works nicely. And more intelligent than labelling them with words that better apply to you..... *reaches for "ignore" button*
legendary
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Women vote more uniformly than men, which means the moment women got the vote, women controlled politics. And women always vote for more security at the expense of freedom. Which, as every american knows, means you will get neither.


This explains why there's no women into bitcoin. Bitcoin is all freedom and very risky.

Women's nature is passive. There's no way to change it, despite what hysterical feminists want.



Bugger off, idiot.

There are plenty of LEADING women in BTC including the founder & president of the Digital Chamber of Commerce.

There are women in this thread reading you EMBARASSING YOURSELF right now.

Go crawl back into that cave & come out when you've evolved a few centuries, GEEEEEEZ.
legendary
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2) You could move your coins before the fork to a paper wallet, and then after the fork move them back to the Trezor, BTCGold should be left on the paper wallet.


Didn't the snapshot happen already? Anyway I heard it was today...



https://btcgpu.org


Fork is in 3hours and 20mins from now.

 Snapshot happens at block height  491407
So it's probably 2 hours and 50 minutes from now.
legendary
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hero member
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2) You could move your coins before the fork to a paper wallet, and then after the fork move them back to the Trezor, BTCGold should be left on the paper wallet.


Didn't the snapshot happen already? Anyway I heard it was today...



https://btcgpu.org


Fork is in 3hours and 20mins from now.
legendary
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..like bright metal on a sullen ground.

2) You could move your coins before the fork to a paper wallet, and then after the fork move them back to the Trezor, BTCGold should be left on the paper wallet.


Didn't the snapshot happen already? Anyway I heard it was today...



BTG countdown timer:

http://btcgpu.org/

legendary
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2) You could move your coins before the fork to a paper wallet, and then after the fork move them back to the Trezor, BTCGold should be left on the paper wallet.


Didn't the snapshot happen already? Anyway I heard it was today...

hero member
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Here's a question to anyone partially intelligent.

What's the deal with getting bgold when my btc is on a Trezor?

All I am reading about is no replay protection and it's a bit unsettling to say the least. I bought the Trezor for 2 reasons

1) security

2) ease of claiming coins during a fork as last time I had paper wallets and it was a total kick in the plums trying to set up new wallets, move coins and enter old priv key into bcash software wallet.


It doesn't seem as easy as pressing a "coin split" button and then "send to exchange" button as I had hoped.

Live and learn.

1) The easy way to get the coins is wait until Trezor incorporate some sort of coin splitting. But you may not get the ability until well after everyone else.

2) You could move you coins before the fork to a paper wallet, and then after the fork move them back to the Trezor, BTCGold should be left on the paper wallet.

3) Another way is to extract the private keys from your Trezor seed manually. You can use this script.
https://gist.github.com/mflaxman/f6350d84cef7a9ef997a0bc99f120a86
****Please don't do this unless you are confident that you know what you are doing. To ensure security don't do it on a machine thats connected to the internet, and once completed wipe the machine completely. ****



BTCGold dev has said they will definitely release with replay protection.
legendary
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Bitcoin is antisemitic
So, anyhow, you come off as a bit of a snake oil salesman who is trying to get others to sell a bit in order to better prepare for down, and in that regard kind of lecturing some kind of supposed higher wisdom that you are proclaiming.  Am I wrong?

I agree that everyone should prepare for both up and down, but if someone does not feel comfortable selling, then why sit there and try to pressure them and rub it in, except seems that you want to talk your book here, rather than realistically share BTC price direction predictions that you have.

I said what I'm doing and why. Not pressuring anyone to do anything.
I'm still quite bullish long term. Bearish short term. Far from sure. Trying to stay diversified enough for any scenario.
legendary
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diamond-handed zealot

This thread would only be half as fun without you BMB  Grin

but we would all still have pants
legendary
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..like bright metal on a sullen ground.

uh oh, here comes another one...



price fork? stay tuned...

legendary
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legendary
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This friend asked me around 6 weeks ago how to buy bitcoin so I sent him all the information he needed but without the preaching. In my mind preaching about bitcoin is a bit 2013 for me and not something I do anymore ...


You're a better person than me - a few months ago some loved ones asked me about Bitcoin after ridiculing/ignoring my interest in it since 2014. I said I'd be happy to help, then couldn't resist a little "well well, look at this, how the tide has turned, how ironic, oooh" moment. Totally put them off and never heard Bitcoin mentioned again.

Let this be a lesson to those that don't know, save the self-congratulatory back patting for r/bitcoin, or just never.



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Do I bother to help?

I would say yes do please still help, when it comes to Bitcoin/crypto the more the merrier. The thing is not to feel invested in your friends choices: if your friend wants to trade his coin away then that's his decision, it's all part of the journey. One day he'll stumble upon a sound investment strategy (or he'll ask you  Wink ) and who knows maybe he'll become a zealot too!

Be a faucet. Send some milliBits his way. Lead a horse to water. That's probably the best thing imo.
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
No one is telling anyone to bet the farm on BTC; however, you talk about $3k as if it has some kind of high probability of happening, and apparently your portfolio does not represent such pessimism.  So maybe you should temper your language a bit to be better in line with your portfolio holdings rather than painting some kind of doom and gloom scenario as if it were pending and imminent.

Actually, I agree with your point that a 50%-ish correction is not necessarily unrealistic, but we already had a 40% correction, recently, and there still remains a decent amount of uncertainty regarding the severity of the threat of any of the upmanship attacks on bitcoin... yeah they keep upping and upping the ante in terms of their attempts for destruction and disruption, but in the end, are these threats going to materially play out in a meaningful way? In that regard, you better fucking hodl onto your coins because even if we are getting down, we may well get up before we get down... so you are going to want to sell some more priro to any potential 50% or greater correction - that may well come after a further pump - even a 2x pump.

So no one is saying that BTC is the be all end all coin.. or that these attacks are not likely to have any effect.. but it is a matter of when.. and what might happen first before the supposed calamity that you proclaim kicks in.

Even a sudden 50% correction would be not doom &gloom. Quite the contrary for those prepared for it and still long term bullish.
I already posted before why a significant correction looks due soon (we had a couple recently in july and september, and now the price is quite high above the 100-day SMA looking ripe for some cashing in). Moreover the technicals and candlesticks patterns at this moment are not so bullish.

So I'm now keeping some cash on exchanges, which is not so bad (unless it's finex: https://medium.com/@bitfinexed/wash-trading-bitcoin-part-ii-who-and-why-is-someone-wash-trading-on-bitfinex-e1c7b5e0b3bb ). If I won't use it to buy cheap coins I'll find other uses for it. The hardliners who are all-in instead will be REKT at the first major correction and will have no dry power to spend on cheap coins.

Maybe that is part of the problem with your previous lines of posts?  You seem to be trying to characterize people as hardliners?  As if we do not have any plan for down, and you are the only one adequately planning for down? 

Yeah, sure, there are some of those people (bulls that you seem to be describing) that are expecting down and are giving little to no weight to the possibility of down.  so what.  Let them bet everything on up, but I really doubt that there are as many of those supposed hardliners as you expect, and many folks who are preparing or planning for up do not expect any kind of straight line movement for up, and they also might not feel comfortable selling 20% of their stash, like you did, because they have been screwed before by selling too much and then not being prepared for up.

So, anyhow, you come off as a bit of a snake oil salesman who is trying to get others to sell a bit in order to better prepare for down, and in that regard kind of lecturing some kind of supposed higher wisdom that you are proclaiming.  Am I wrong?

I agree that everyone should prepare for both up and down, but if someone does not feel comfortable selling, then why sit there and try to pressure them and rub it in, except seems that you want to talk your book here, rather than realistically share BTC price direction predictions that you have.

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This friend asked me around 6 weeks ago how to buy bitcoin so I sent him all the information he needed but without the preaching. In my mind preaching about bitcoin is a bit 2013 for me and not something I do anymore ...


You're a better person than me - a few months ago some loved ones asked me about Bitcoin after ridiculing/ignoring my interest in it since 2014. I said I'd be happy to help, then couldn't resist a little "well well, look at this, how the tide has turned, how ironic, oooh" moment. Totally put them off and never heard Bitcoin mentioned again.

Let this be a lesson to those that don't know, save the self-congratulatory back patting for r/bitcoin, or just never.



Quote
Do I bother to help?

I would say yes do please still help, when it comes to Bitcoin/crypto the more the merrier. The thing is not to feel invested in your friends choices: if your friend wants to trade his coin away then that's his decision, it's all part of the journey. One day he'll stumble upon a sound investment strategy (or he'll ask you  Wink ) and who knows maybe he'll become a zealot too!
legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1064
Bitcoin is antisemitic
No one is telling anyone to bet the farm on BTC; however, you talk about $3k as if it has some kind of high probability of happening, and apparently your portfolio does not represent such pessimism.  So maybe you should temper your language a bit to be better in line with your portfolio holdings rather than painting some kind of doom and gloom scenario as if it were pending and imminent.

Actually, I agree with your point that a 50%-ish correction is not necessarily unrealistic, but we already had a 40% correction, recently, and there still remains a decent amount of uncertainty regarding the severity of the threat of any of the upmanship attacks on bitcoin... yeah they keep upping and upping the ante in terms of their attempts for destruction and disruption, but in the end, are these threats going to materially play out in a meaningful way? In that regard, you better fucking hodl onto your coins because even if we are getting down, we may well get up before we get down... so you are going to want to sell some more priro to any potential 50% or greater correction - that may well come after a further pump - even a 2x pump.

So no one is saying that BTC is the be all end all coin.. or that these attacks are not likely to have any effect.. but it is a matter of when.. and what might happen first before the supposed calamity that you proclaim kicks in.

Even a sudden 50% correction would be not doom &gloom. Quite the contrary for those prepared for it and still long term bullish.
I already posted before why a significant correction looks due soon (we had a couple recently in july and september, and now the price is quite high above the 100-day SMA looking ripe for some cashing in). Moreover the technicals and candlesticks patterns at this moment are not so bullish.

So I'm now keeping some cash on exchanges, which is not so bad (unless it's finex: https://medium.com/@bitfinexed/wash-trading-bitcoin-part-ii-who-and-why-is-someone-wash-trading-on-bitfinex-e1c7b5e0b3bb ). If I won't use it to buy cheap coins I'll find other uses for it. The hardliners who are all-in instead will be REKT at the first major correction and will have no dry power to spend on cheap coins (or anything else).
legendary
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Here's a question to anyone partially intelligent.

...

*Looks other way, whistles
legendary
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Here's a question to anyone partially intelligent.

What's the deal with getting bgold when my btc is on a Trezor?

All I am reading about is no replay protection and it's a bit unsettling to say the least. I bought the Trezor for 2 reasons

1) security

2) ease of claiming coins during a fork as last time I had paper wallets and it was a total kick in the plums trying to set up new wallets, move coins and enter old priv key into bcash software wallet.


It doesn't seem as easy as pressing a "coin split" button and then "send to exchange" button as I had hoped.

Live and learn.
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