Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 16233. (Read 26610024 times)

I agree that whatever you do would likely be a package situation, and you might have various ways that you can back out or hedge - however, it really does not sound as if you are hedged - and that is partly what I mean about preparing for both down and up...

I don't think that it matters how "big" is 160btc, but instead more importantly whether you are prepared for either price direction - because even if probabilities seem pretty good in one direction, bitcoin still is ambiguous and frequently will do the opposite of expectations - and still we are in a bull market too.. Unless someone can provide some convincing evidence to the contrary, our bull market has been since about mid-to-late 2015 (even though we may not have realized that the bull market had begun until about May 2016 or perhaps a bit later than that, perhaps?) - so sure it has been a fairly long and exponential bull market, but we certainly do not have any kind of clear, unambiguous and convincing evidence that the bull market is either stopping or that it is reversing.  So even though we cannot assume that the bull market is continuing, it seems even more dangerous to assume that it has stopped or to bet against some amount of continued upwards movement.




You might be correct, but sometimes guys who play balls to the walls, also might know that it is sometimes better to have some stake in the game and to cut your losses... but sure, you can gamble 100% if you think that is the more prudent and practical approach for your own circumstances.




Bitcoin has been strong for a long time... and yeah, we may get a few fake outs after our correction to $2970, but really, there has been decent and ongoing buying pressure.. so seems like the only way to be excited is to have some stake in the game, rather than being happy for others, right?  What is the purpose of being happy for others?  It is like me buying Ethereum.. it has not happened yet... so yeah, I continue to wait for my buy point, but it does not hit.. so I guess I am somewhat happy for others, but I don't really care too much because I am not in that one and I have a different and skeptical perspective of ETH...




Seems like we are getting more and more entrants into bitcoin and they are scattered over more than 150 exchanges, so sure some exchanges have more influence than others, but bears have been having troubles for quite some time in keeping BTC prices down in the past couple of years, and the best that they have been able to do is temporary measures, especially since about May 2016, when they lost control of $500 and the rest has been their struggling within a bull market... so hodl and buy and don't bet too much down because the overall trend remains UP.

SegWit work.
Really.

Yes i know there Will Be 2 forks but the first one is btcgold(altcoin) free coins for the btc holders.
Thats Why we are going up, poeple are buying to get more free coins.
That they can sell iT for btc self making there stash bigger
And then the second fork Will happen also an altcoin, we Will always stay original btc.

There is a lot of misunderstanding here. 2 forks are coming : Bitcoin versus BitcoinGold (BTCGPU) , then Bitcoin versus Bitcoin2X

Your wrong SegwitX2 Will not Be the new btc, the spilt called btcgold ist Just an altcoin again
And the original chain Will go further again.

So one could use the address given + redeem script on the input side of a splitting transaction?
Does that work if there isn't even one satoshi in the address?

I wonder how timely they'll be handling the split. By some kind of insanity Coinbase is still sitting on user's BCH's.

It sounds me like a diplomatic move to say, hey, we are one of the biggest exchanges, we will let you trade SegWit2x coins when they arrive but please consider that if the "old" or "original" bitcoin chain will live it will stick to the real ticker BTC BTC.
 
I mean everyone should have a piece of bread daily 

Barry Silbert's DCG consortium of companies with his minion Jeff Garzik will need alot of luck to even launch and maintain their scam Segwit2x BTC1 altcoin effort. LOL

Bitfinex has released a statement more or less to the effect that, following the chain split, should the original chain cease to exist, Segwit2x will be the new BTC. Should the original chain continue in any way, it will keep the BTC ticker and Segwit2x will be listed as B2X.

what are the wallets or exchanges that supports the bitcoin chain split? anyone?

Any descendant transaction would also be valid.  An exchange could split all their coins once they have access to a single UTXO that is unique to one chain.  There will likely be services (and exchanges) that accept a dual transaction to a single address (valid on both chains), and then either send you or credit your account with split coins.

It is NOT an "important vision."  You are suggesting some kind of phenomenon "ubiguity of bitcoin" which is NOT even close to being close to being a reality - and acting as if it were some kind of pressing concern - merely because you are "working towards that vision."  Maybe, someday, you will be able to recognize the difference between the here and now and what is imminent and what is 30 years from now without conflating them to be the same thing?  Someday?  Perhaps?


O.k. say anything that you like in order to argue that bcash is supposedly superior, but at least 1% is a more realistic aspiration.

The miners that don't agree to this, would not be on SegWit2X. There is no private key for this address, but the redeem script has been published, so anyone can spend whatever is there.

I wouldn't worry too much. Everything indicates they will formally approve the move tomorrow... for some reason Caixa stocks price had a significant recovery today (damn insiders).

... and because abnormal block production rate due to fickle difficulty adjusting mechanisms. Let's tell it all.

But I have a question for you, or whoever else may be able to answer:


(Namely, including coins from a post-fork transaction in the "splitting" transaction. Can't find jbreher's other post for a proper quote.)

Apart from a coinbase transaction, which outputs would qualify? In other words, can a simple guy set up such a splitting transaction without access to a freshly mined block?

Just use the Brave browser. That is all built in to the browser.

Not so funny.. I have my bank account with Lacaixa, but luckily i dont like to have too much money in the bank account because this shit can happen, but my parents have their lifesavings and saving plans there... I really hope Lacaixa move out from here tomorrow, nobody have to risk their money because stupid politics.

Jimbo: and I would add Ghostery.  https://www.ghostery.com/  Whitelist your favorite places, carry on.

Banco de Sabadell and Caixa have historically been the main "regional" Catalonian banks. Nowadays they depend more on clients all over Spain though.

Yes, I think the lack of liquidity provided by BDE/ECB has been also a major consideration in the move. They can't risk bankruptcy so it is the only logical step.