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Fuck I can't imagine a world without btc-e. Those guys were there from the start.
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ah drama been a while since we met
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Apparently the name of the guy who was arrested is Alexander. Same name as one of the admins of BTC-E.

My guess is the other founder got wind of it and took the cold storage and started mixing it right away. 66,000 BTC at least.

Additional hints:

Also BTC-e was founded in 2011, while bitmixer in 2014
The guy behind bitmixer doesn't looks like russian from his posts
Most of the Bitcoin ramsons were exchanged on BTC-e
And they havent even twitted anything new since yesterday, not even to counter the rumours
...

I think it is already nearing certainty that it is BTC-e.
legendary
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When will the fud end?

Never.
There will always be people who want to [run up the market to incredible new ATHs and then slam it back down on massive FUD so they/you can] buy cheap bitcoins.


FTFY  Smiley

In other news, the SEC comments on the ICO token scams is up on MSM:
http://www.businessinsider.com/us-sec-rules-digital-token-sales-securities-dao-violated-law-2017-7
legendary
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When will the fud end?

Never.
There will always be people who want to buy cheap bitcoins.
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Viva Ut Vivas
Apparently the name of the guy who was arrested is Alexander. Same name as one of the admins of BTC-E.

My guess is the other founder got wind of it and took the cold storage and started mixing it right away. 66,000 BTC at least.
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When will the fud end?
legendary
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I am somewhat in favor for another purge of the ecosystem so that any remaining complaints like "Bitcoin is only used for crime" get left behind.

This is a fallacy.

Money will always be used to pay for crime. The more real money is the more often it'll be used to pay for crime. If Bitcoin is the only real money it goes without saying that only Bitcoin will be used for crime! If you live in a society without money that means you're living in a jail.
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I am somewhat in favor for another purge of the ecosystem so that any remaining complaints like "Bitcoin is only used for crime" get left behind.

And yet the mysterious ESF and big banks like Citi, JP Morgan, and HSBC are allowed to launder billions of black market U.S. dollars per year with impunity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5Y4UGPQTLg
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He is suspected of heading a criminal organization since 2011 that "owns, operates and manages one of the world's leading e-crime websites"

Bitcoin exchange is an "e-crime website"? Give me a break.

Yep. That's how it works, any website where illicit activities take place is considered an e-crime website. No matter what percentage of its grand total is really related to those crimes (including money laundering).

I am somewhat in favor for another purge of the ecosystem so that any remaining complaints like "Bitcoin is only used for crime" get left behind.

I agree. A purge of this whole US Drug War would go a long way toward making society better.

Labeling every little thing as "money laundering" just because you can't track every penny in the world is ridiculous.
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He is suspected of heading a criminal organization since 2011 that "owns, operates and manages one of the world's leading e-crime websites"

Bitcoin exchange is an "e-crime website"? Give me a break.

Yep. That's how it works, any website where illicit activities take place is considered an e-crime website. No matter what percentage of its grand total is really related to those crimes (including money laundering).

I am somewhat in favor for another purge of the ecosystem so that any remaining complaints like "Bitcoin is only used for crime" get left behind.
legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
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He is suspected of heading a criminal organization since 2011 that "owns, operates and manages one of the world's leading e-crime websites"

Bitcoin exchange is an "e-crime website"? Give me a break.
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BitMixer maybe?

BTC-e most probably.

$4 *BILLIONS* laundered? An exchange or.. yeah maybe bitmixer, but I bet on btc-e

You don't really launder money with a mixer, on the contrary... no matter what you input to it, the output is "black cash" as it breaks the trace of its origins.
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Terminated.
This is the month of max FUD. Not everyone gets to survive.
It does seem like it, doesn't it? UAHF, Bitcoin ABC, Bitcoin Cash, Alphabay and Hans seized, Bitmixer gone, BTC-e suddenly down. Roll Eyes

And Bitmixer ceases operations with some "weird" statement like he has just now realized that mixers are bad for Bitcoin.

Something is happening... not necessarily a bad thing though.
"Something". Anything centralized and illegal which grows that big eventually will get found and shut down. That's for sure. However, this is a non issue with the rise of decentralized solutions, e.g. JoinMarket and Tumblebit. They are superior to mixers anyways.

Possibly related to the BTC-e debacle?

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-greece-russia-arrest-idUSKBN1AB1OP
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Greek police arrested a Russian man suspected of running a money laundering operation involving turning $4 billion from illicit business activities into the digital currency bitcoin, they said on Wednesday.
Speculation like that often only leads to panic. It is possibly as the story would fit, but I wouldn't place any bets on it yet.

I wonder how much BTC-e going down has affected the price.
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.
Bet CLOSED! Let the game begins...
Thank you all for supporting this game and I wish you all good luck. Let's make contact when ATH touched.
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Getting closer!  Cool But it looks like we might get to ATL first... .  Grin Grin

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Possibly related to the BTC-e debacle?

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-greece-russia-arrest-idUSKBN1AB1OP

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Greek police arrested a Russian man suspected of running a money laundering operation involving turning $4 billion from illicit business activities into the digital currency bitcoin, they said on Wednesday.
legendary
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Remember folks:
Whale insiders don't just massively run up a thin market with leverage, unless they've got a way to also bring it down waiting in their back pocket... if it happens, it was all by design.
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For example...
http://www.businessinsider.com/chipotle-conspiracy-theory-gains-steam-2017-7
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AlphaBay went down weeks ago.
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