Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 17551.

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Quote from: Elwar on March 20, 2017, 11:00:41 AM

Wow, about 15 pages added to the thread since I left last night.

Without looking I would guess that they were all filled with blocksize spammers.

Do you prefer reading 15 pages of nlc beanie bs spammers?

chopstick

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Blocksize was never meant to be some resource that could be controlled by anybody.

Let Bitcoin scale already.

Make Bitcoin Great Again!

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Quote from: aztecminer on March 20, 2017, 10:22:10 AM

i hope you guys make up your minds this time bitcoin .

It figures that a goofball like you would come back in times like these with some over generalizations attempting to suggest that bitcoin is something other than it is.

Contrary to your assertion, there is no "you guys" making decisions about bitcoin and its direction... that is part of the significance of some kind of phenomenon that is considerably decentralized.

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There is trouble abrewing

this morning i was wondering how many more times this process of "FUD, dump, more FUD, buy back cheap coins, rise" can be repeated and how smaller the swings are going to get!

just some food for thought.

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Quote from: STT on March 20, 2017, 10:24:59 AM

Quote from: Cassius on March 20, 2017, 08:43:37 AM

Well, not sure about USD prices but it looks like BTC will soon get a bump against Sterling.

Brexit anticipated weakness is already in the price for sterling, certainly cable I think has a fair chance to be neutral to positive this year. Dollar has its own news and dynamics vs world trade, obviously brexit is stated a reference to the current changes passing in USA for its trade agreements.
Overall the trend for sterling is negative for some years now, long before Brexit. Fiscal and trade deficit but vs dollar it may stay quite level.

BTC in CNY I think has held a lower point and is not negative. I think its showing neutral action and may hold till news effects it further.

Dollar strength has come off some as less rate rises are seen likely. $1060 and above is more positive action if it can hold that but overall it looks less positive then the CNY charts I see. It'd be good to see if Dollar index shows weakness does this help the price for bitcoin

True, but there is ALWAYS the knee-jerk reaction. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-39306336
Twitchy traders in forex as well as BTC.

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You guys read your posts before you post them. You are still talking about giving up control of the blocksize.
No need to analyze that once more. Ain't happening.

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Viva Ut Vivas

Wow, about 15 pages added to the thread since I left last night.

Without looking I would guess that they were all filled with blocksize spammers.

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Quote from: Killerpotleaf on March 20, 2017, 10:39:00 AM

Quote from: Dafar on March 20, 2017, 10:06:21 AM

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/60gem4/jihan_wus_latest_weibo_post_looks_like_an_offer/

Jihan willing to talk is a GREAT sign! I really believe once he folds the scaling debate will start coming to a conclusion. The fact that he admits that he finds 2nd layer solutions a threat is telling, but he will realize that he cannot force the rest of the community to hold back on achievements to benefit the miners. A prosperous $2K+ bitcoin is much better for him than half a bitcoin with less users

a workable compromise being reached would be a monumental achievement.
and price would need to reflect that.

givin up control of blocksize, and in turn getting SF-Segwit, would be the best thing that ever happened to bitcoin.

TBH, when I read that I was kinda like:

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Quote from: Dafar on March 20, 2017, 10:06:21 AM

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/60gem4/jihan_wus_latest_weibo_post_looks_like_an_offer/

Jihan willing to talk is a GREAT sign! I really believe once he folds the scaling debate will start coming to a conclusion. The fact that he admits that he finds 2nd layer solutions a threat is telling, but he will realize that he cannot force the rest of the community to hold back on achievements to benefit the miners. A prosperous $2K+ bitcoin is much better for him than half a bitcoin with less users

a workable compromise being reached would be a monumental achievement.
and price would need to reflect that.

givin up control of blocksize, and in turn getting SF-Segwit, would be the best thing that ever happened to bitcoin.

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You're never too old to think young.

Another good morning Bircoinland.

Still in 3 digits... currently $1046USD (Bitcoinaverage).

Are we ready to quit worrying about Jihan's hard fork threats and move on?

A little bluffing might work sometimes but if it leads to a Mexican standoff with a Reservoir Dogs ending, it won't do anyone any good, Jihan included. Surely he's smart enough to see that.

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Without translating the entire article, it frames the hard fork conflict purely as a battle for transaction fees, and claims miners will never allow 2nd layer protocols to undermine their revenue stream. It barely mentions block siz

I cant read the original but if this is correct, I dont think its an unreasonable point of view. A business will protect its revenue, why would we ever believe otherwise. If he thinks your fork will take away business and income then its not likely you will find support there.

Is bitcoin about capitalism, because thats how it works and maybe that is what determines the fork. I may have read it wrong, Im still not clear how this will proceed really Undecided

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he will realize that he cannot force the rest of the community to hold back on achievements to benefit the miners

Where does the force lie, that is the big question. The silent majority is full of surprises

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Quote from: Holliday on March 20, 2017, 10:07:02 AM

Quote from: Killerpotleaf on March 20, 2017, 09:13:25 AM

maybe you should try to take a more objective view, and realize that asking everyone to bank on an unproven concept is not a viable way forward at this point.

Wait... I thought you were a BU supporter? What happened?

LOL i knew someone would point this out Cheesy

idk i feel EC is not a far cry from what we have now.
in a way EC is a built-in feature of bitcoin always has been, the signaling and UI, BU provides is just a convenience...
i support both EC and segwit, but dislike sig discount and block weight.
i want to see LN before i commit to it.
and seeing how inevitably LN will require big blocks,
i see very little reason to not go ahead and have a good mechanism for controlling blocksize right now.

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Quote from: Dafar on March 20, 2017, 10:06:21 AM

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/60gem4/jihan_wus_latest_weibo_post_looks_like_an_offer/

Jihan willing to talk is a GREAT sign! I really believe once he folds the scaling debate will start coming to a conclusion. The fact that he admits that he finds 2nd layer solutions a threat is telling, but he will realize that he cannot force the rest of the community to hold back on achievements to benefit the miners. A prosperous $2K+ bitcoin is much better for him than half a bitcoin with less users

Thx for sharing Dafar!

Jihan is finished, this is his only solution to compromise. Bugs, BU=ALT-coin, no propper support and his raging from past weekend made him realize that his whole PR battle is ruined

Quote from: Paashaas on March 19, 2017, 10:30:09 PM

Jihad Jihan Wu is going down this week!

Well, that escalated fast... Cheesy

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Quote from: Dafar on March 20, 2017, 10:06:21 AM

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/60gem4/jihan_wus_latest_weibo_post_looks_like_an_offer/

Jihan willing to talk is a GREAT sign! I really believe once he folds the scaling debate will start coming to a conclusion. The fact that he admits that he finds 2nd layer solutions a threat is telling, but he will realize that he cannot force the rest of the community to hold back on achievements to benefit the miners. A prosperous $2K+ bitcoin is much better for him than half a bitcoin with less users

If he's asking me, I don't negotiate with blackmailers. Segwit node up and running and not going down.

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Quote from: Cassius on March 20, 2017, 08:43:37 AM

Well, not sure about USD prices but it looks like BTC will soon get a bump against Sterling.

Brexit anticipated weakness is already in the price for sterling, certainly cable I think has a fair chance to be neutral to positive this year. Dollar has its own news and dynamics vs world trade, obviously brexit is stated a reference to the current changes passing in USA for its trade agreements.
Overall the trend for sterling is negative for some years now, long before Brexit. Fiscal and trade deficit but vs dollar it may stay quite level.

BTC in CNY I think has held a lower point and is not negative. I think its showing neutral action and may hold till news effects it further.

Dollar strength has come off some as less rate rises are seen likely. $1060 and above is more positive action if it can hold that but overall it looks less positive then the CNY charts I see. It'd be good to see if Dollar index shows weakness does this help the price for bitcoin

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i hope you guys make up your minds this time bitcoin .

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Quote from: Killerpotleaf on March 20, 2017, 09:13:25 AM

maybe you should try to take a more objective view, and realize that asking everyone to bank on an unproven concept is not a viable way forward at this point.

Wait... I thought you were a BU supporter? What happened?

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/60gem4/jihan_wus_latest_weibo_post_looks_like_an_offer/

Jihan willing to talk is a GREAT sign! I really believe once he folds the scaling debate will start coming to a conclusion. The fact that he admits that he finds 2nd layer solutions a threat is telling, but he will realize that he cannot force the rest of the community to hold back on achievements to benefit the miners. A prosperous $2K+ bitcoin is much better for him than half a bitcoin with less users

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Quote from: Torque on March 20, 2017, 08:07:33 AM

corrupt miner = "miners who do things that EVERYONE ELSE (users, exchanges, brokers, merchants, investors) in Bitcoin doesn't approve of."

miners wont signal somthing they dont believe in.

maybe you should try to take a more objective view, and realize that asking everyone to bank on an unproven concept is not a viable way forward at this point.

and "everyone else" is not the case in this case, OBVIOUSLY

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Quote from: Torque on March 20, 2017, 08:27:35 AM

Quote from: Ibian on March 20, 2017, 08:23:28 AM

Quote from: Torque on March 20, 2017, 08:07:33 AM

Quote from: Ibian on March 20, 2017, 02:06:13 AM

Quote from: Torque on March 19, 2017, 07:25:17 PM

corrupt miners

Define what a "corrupt miner" is. I hope you have something better than "miners who do things that I just don't approve of".

corrupt miner = "miners who do things that EVERYONE ELSE (users, exchanges, brokers, merchants, investors) in Bitcoin doesn't approve of."

You might then say, "yeah, well at that point people will just vote with their feet."

Not if the Bitcoin ecosystem is big enough. Everyone will be too invested in Bitcoin's success at that point. Give miners enough power and control, and it won't matter anymore.

Okay so basically the same thing. If the majority disapproves of whatever then it doesn't matter because they have the majority of the hashpower. It's a shit definition and in practice pretty worthless.

When faced with truth, you troll.

You want miners to take over centralized control of Bitcoin, at the expense of the rest of the users in the ecosystem. Got it.

Fascist much?

Sorry Ibian, but when r0ach starts making more sense than you, you have to go to my ignore list.

You gave your opinion. I gave my opinion of your opinion. None of that is trolling. Not even your part, or so I choose to presume. If it's not too presumptuous.

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