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legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'

I don't remember this happening as you describe it.
Do you mean TCJA (tax cuts and jobs act)?

That one had some positives as well as negatives.
Negative was that you could basically deduct only the standard deduction and you can put in only $10k in RE tax.
charity for middle class became mostly meaningless since you still just get a standard deduction.
Another negative-you could not recharacterize the Roth conversion (from IRA) back to IRA-that one hurt as it was very useful if a stock price declined.
Positive-20% deduction on a pass through income for businesses, immediate expensing in section 179.
All and all-for me, personally, taxes did not change much.


Additionally, presidents do not pass laws, that's the job of the legislative branch. Though it would be interesting to know which lobbyist group wrote it.

The text in question appears to be section 13303 (3303 in the original).

Quote
SEC. 13303. LIKE-KIND EXCHANGES OF REAL PROPERTY.
    (a) In General.--Section 1031(a)(1) is amended by striking
``property'' each place it appears and inserting ``real property''.


And a bunch of other stuff I won't clutter this thread with. It's interesting as it's almost as if it was written to target cryptos without looking like it was targeting cryptos.


presidents pass the law when they sign off.

the only time a law is not passed by the president is when the legislative branch over rides a veto.


trump did not veto that law which specifically favored real estate trades only.


it is one of the worst things done by the U.S.A. to crypto. I was not a fan of Biden and I am not a fan of Trump.

They are no longer good for America and at least one of them is not running.


I get why you favor trump but I am simply explaining to you he fucked crypto bigly with that law.

If Trump were to drop out and Vance were running AND HE PICKED Liz Cheney for Vp I would likely vote for him.

And not vote Harris. I won’t vote for someone that 11 years older than me. At 67 I know enough about old to tell you Trump is shot and won’t last 4 years.
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I don't remember this happening as you describe it.
Do you mean TCJA (tax cuts and jobs act)?

That one had some positives as well as negatives.
Negative was that you could basically deduct only the standard deduction and you can put in only $10k in RE tax.
charity for middle class became mostly meaningless since you still just get a standard deduction.
Another negative-you could not recharacterize the Roth conversion (from IRA) back to IRA-that one hurt as it was very useful if a stock price declined.
Positive-20% deduction on a pass through income for businesses, immediate expensing in section 179.
All and all-for me, personally, taxes did not change much.


Additionally, presidents do not pass laws, that's the job of the legislative branch. Though it would be interesting to know which lobbyist group wrote it.

The text in question appears to be section 13303 (3303 in the original).

Quote
SEC. 13303. LIKE-KIND EXCHANGES OF REAL PROPERTY.
    (a) In General.--Section 1031(a)(1) is amended by striking
``property'' each place it appears and inserting ``real property''.


And a bunch of other stuff I won't clutter this thread with. It's interesting as it's almost as if it was written to target cryptos without looking like it was targeting cryptos.
legendary
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legendary
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Mtgox coins have started hitting the market. The first users are beginning to confirm having received their coins. Market only down $2,300 so far today and holding up well. I imagine the losses will accelerate as people get off work or start seeing their nest egg declining as well as more users receiving their coins. Still hoping we see some billionaires taking advantage of the liquidity to do some stacking so things don’t set off a panic.

Did all those people also getting some alts back??
And selling them at the same time?

Btw not saying that you got some price actions wrong lately… though I just not following the pad all the way…

If it were me, I'd be selling bcash like mad to buy me...



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I got some Gox fractions of BTC back via Kracken. Much less than the 20% was supposed to be, and I can't see any BCH. Maybe I just need to wait a bit more......
legendary
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It clearly is just gaslighting about democracy.  Old Joe is the elected candidate for leader of the Democrats going into this election and they just tossed him on his ear and are undemocratically installing Kamala.  She's already raising funds for her campaign.  Who elected her as party leader?

The voters in the primaries. The way the system is set up, you vote for a candidate in the primaries and you have to trust his/her choice of a yet-unannounced running mate.

Remember Gerald Ford? People voted for Tricky Dicky in the primaries and then for him and Spiro Agnew in the general election. After Spiro quit, Nixon arbitrarily installed Ford as his VP so when Tricky himself was forced to quit, Ford became president without ever being elected.

Democracy? I guess everyone got to vote. Voting for Nixon or Biden in the primaries shouldn't mean electing Ford or the successor to whomever Harris might choose as a running mate though. This "democracy" is flawed.

Same holds true for Trump/Vance. When you vote for a geriatric candidate like Trump or Biden, you take your chances.
____

I'm in my mid-70's but I'm still sharp enough to know I'm too old to be running a government.

I also question the motives of anyone over the age of 70 who would even want to try to run a government. It seems like power hunger is the chief driving force. Any normal person should welcome the chance to live happily ever after.

 Well, there is a democratic process for each party to come up with a presidential nominee and after Bernie et al got screwed over, the rules were said to have been strengthened.  The process isn't nominate and fall back to the appointed VP after forcing out the old part.  I wouldn't expect the Dems to follow any democratic process though; why start now?

Please there is no democracy. Just a bunch of clowns robbing us blind on both sides.

 Good point!
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legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
It clearly is just gaslighting about democracy.  Old Joe is the elected candidate for leader of the Democrats going into this election and they just tossed him on his ear and are undemocratically installing Kamala.  She's already raising funds for her campaign.  Who elected her as party leader?

The voters in the primaries. The way the system is set up, you vote for a candidate in the primaries and you have to trust his/her choice of a yet-unannounced running mate.

Remember Gerald Ford? People voted for Tricky Dicky in the primaries and then for him and Spiro Agnew in the general election. After Spiro quit, Nixon arbitrarily installed Ford as his VP so when Tricky himself was forced to quit, Ford became president without ever being elected.

Democracy? I guess everyone got to vote. Voting for Nixon or Biden in the primaries shouldn't mean electing Ford or the successor to whomever Harris might choose as a running mate though. This "democracy" is flawed.

Same holds true for Trump/Vance. When you vote for a geriatric candidate like Trump or Biden, you take your chances.
____

I'm in my mid-70's but I'm still sharp enough to know I'm too old to be running a government.

I also question the motives of anyone over the age of 70 who would even want to try to run a government. It seems like power hunger is the chief driving force. Any normal person should welcome the chance to live happily ever after.

 Well, there is a democratic process for each party to come up with a presidential nominee and after Bernie et al got screwed over, the rules were said to have been strengthened.  The process isn't nominate and fall back to the appointed VP after forcing out the old part.  I wouldn't expect the Dems to follow any democratic process though; why start now?

Please there is no democracy. Just a bunch of clowns robbing us blind on both sides.
legendary
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legendary
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Mtgox coins have started hitting the market. The first users are beginning to confirm having received their coins. Market only down $2,300 so far today and holding up well. I imagine the losses will accelerate as people get off work or start seeing their nest egg declining as well as more users receiving their coins. Still hoping we see some billionaires taking advantage of the liquidity to do some stacking so things don’t set off a panic.

Btw not saying that you got some price actions wrong lately… though I just not following the pad all the way…

he clearly got it wrong...was talking about 38 at 54-60, never 'predicted' a rise to 67 (yea, was also giving a lip service to 135 in a year, but 38 first).
donator
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Mtgox coins have started hitting the market. The first users are beginning to confirm having received their coins. Market only down $2,300 so far today and holding up well. I imagine the losses will accelerate as people get off work or start seeing their nest egg declining as well as more users receiving their coins. Still hoping we see some billionaires taking advantage of the liquidity to do some stacking so things don’t set off a panic.

Did all those people also getting some alts back??
And selling them at the same time?

I don’t feel like explaining how liquidity pairs work with different currencies in markets. You can believe that everyone is selling all the different alts at once if you want to.

Not that your questions are genuine, but to answer you and hit my character count, we are only receiving payouts in a combination of fiat, BTC, & BCH.

Edit: Imagine thinking I’m short BTC and that’s why I am keeping people informed.
legendary
Activity: 3892
Merit: 4331
Mtgox coins have started hitting the market. The first users are beginning to confirm having received their coins. Market only down $2,300 so far today and holding up well. I imagine the losses will accelerate as people get off work or start seeing their nest egg declining as well as more users receiving their coins. Still hoping we see some billionaires taking advantage of the liquidity to do some stacking so things don’t set off a panic.

This story keeps going round and round...now you are speculating about 'getting off work' and 'nest egg declining'.
Laughable. All it is is SOMEONE (sure, not you, apparently) taking advantage of the situation and shorting, then buying.

How this 'theory' reconciles with tremendous buying the last few days and not much price action?
Someone was shorting into retail/ETF buy?

I think financial 'people' need to be significantly 'culled" as far as their profession numbers are concerned (i don't advocate any violence, just getting separated from the job). 50-70% of those would hopefully go on UBI, eventually, as their jobs are clearly not needed in the world of bitcoin.
legendary
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legendary
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Mtgox coins have started hitting the market. The first users are beginning to confirm having received their coins. Market only down $2,300 so far today and holding up well. I imagine the losses will accelerate as people get off work or start seeing their nest egg declining as well as more users receiving their coins. Still hoping we see some billionaires taking advantage of the liquidity to do some stacking so things don’t set off a panic.

Did all those people also getting some alts back??
And selling them at the same time?

Btw not saying that you got some price actions wrong lately… though I just not following the pad all the way…
donator
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Mtgox coins have started hitting the market. The first users are beginning to confirm having received their coins. Market only down $2,300 so far today and holding up well. I imagine the losses will accelerate as people get off work or start seeing their nest egg declining as well as more users receiving their coins. Still hoping we see some billionaires taking advantage of the liquidity to do some stacking so things don’t set off a panic.
legendary
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donator
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And trump caused 25-30% of that number.

He would likely tap out the country. As his specialty is going bankrupt.


By the way it could be his goal to do it. It also could be a good idea as it is obviously happening started with Johnson fight Vietnam and the war on poverty at the same time. Nixon tossed in more fuel ending the gold standard.

Been downhill since.  Had a bit of a pause with Clinton and he fed some money 1993 to 1998 to the middle class.

But basically from 1964 to 2024 the USA middle class has been under attack of at least 50 of those 60 years.

And by your math how much Biden caused of that number? Point being laying blame doesn't matte if both parties do the same thing

The deficit numbers are public knowledge. And if you paid attention to what I said Johnson began the slide (Democrat) Nixon added fuel (Republican) Trump had the highest four term total 🟰 fact.

When Biden is done we can compare it. His term is not done.

here is a list 1929 to 2023

https://www.thebalancemoney.com/us-deficit-by-year-3306306


Trump was about 7.5 trillion in four years.

Biden is about 4.9 trillion in three years.

No doubt they are the frist and second place losers in terms of debt.

While technically true, in reality it really isn’t so accurate. Democrats have a way of holding outgoing republican Presidents hostage until they take on debt at the end of their term for the next guy to spend. You saw it with Bush in 2008, when he took on hundreds of billions in debt to “save” the global economy that went on his term’s debt sheet, but the money was spent by the Obama administration. Same thing with Trump and covid, only it was trillions that Biden got to spend. I’m guessing we won’t see Joe take on trillions in debt for the next guy to spend. Instead, he has been spending the end of his Presidency trying to lock in ongoing debts to supply Ukraine for the next President. I guess spending the last guy’s money wasn’t good enough, now they’re trying to spend the next guy’s money too…
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