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Farewell, Leo
Is there even a nickname existing for peeps entering Bitcoin in 2017? Like "Gen 20k"-ers or smth like that?  Cheesy
Block size war soldiers.
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
Is there even a nickname existing for peeps entering Bitcoin in 2017? Like "Gen 20k"-ers or smth like that?  Cheesy

epoch 3ers?   3rd epochers?

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Will it happen on
A Sunday 100 K Bitcoin?
Eyes on the target.



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Yes sure that's a memorable Sunday.
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a little over a year ago we were hoping for page parity...  how quickly things change
Remember when parity with an ounce of gold was a thing?
Speaking of gold.

In 2013 I bought a 1/2 ounce gold coin, and a few silver coins from the user 2weiX here on the forum.

I still have the receipt in my mailbox. For the shipping fee only, I paid 0.95 btc. Here's a screenshot of how it looked.

We've come quite a bit since then.

Sorry for your loss.

I'm not sorry, even though I spent something like ~7 btc for that coin.

I'm happy I was able to spend btc back then, maybe otherwise I would have lost interest. Who knows.
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Bitcoin has 32 halvings
We've only seen 4.
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It is not difficult to conclude that the halving will have some effect on the price in 2028 and maybe 2032 - and then 99% of all BTC will be mined and that 1% (210 000 BTC) will be mined for approximately the next 100 years. What I want to say is that the first 4 halvings are perhaps the most important of all the others, and those who have been with BTC since the beginning or only a few years later actually witnessed the most interesting period in the short history of BTC.

In ten years (probably even sooner) the majority of BTC will be in the possession of large investors and spot BTC ETFs - and then the supply on CEXs will be so reduced that buyers will compete for every satoshi. Maybe I just have a wild imagination, but we will meet here (I hope) in 2034 and we will see how close or far I was from the truth.
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Today, tomorrow
next week, next month or next year?
Bitcoin doesn't care

#GM

Probably next month
But next year is the real pump
Two hundred thousand.

Sunday Haiku.
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Will it happen on
A Sunday 100 K Bitcoin?
Eyes on the target.


Today, tomorrow
next week, next month or next year?
Bitcoin doesn't care

#GM
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so was that it for this year?
Yep. We're done. We're going back to $70k.
*blows out the candles*
*throws the cake away*

Bitcoin is dying again, see you at the funeral.
EDIT: No stupid, it's weekend. Institutions don't buy on weekends.
Not that I give too many shits, but it seems to me that from time to time, even since January 11 of this year when the BTC spot ETFs started trading, we have been having some pumps on the weekends..  

Last time I checked bitcoin trades 24/7 and it is not dependent upon institutions for each and every pump and sometimes even seems to teach lessons to institutions in its own ways...but yeah, if you want to buy into a theory that bitcoin has been ONLY pumping during normal business trading hours in the past 11 months, then surely I have my doubts about your interpretation and recollection of recent BTC price dynamic matters.

And that guy Gachapin is not stupid.  He is retarded.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  (I had to get that one in there, just for funzies)
You can take that statement as serious as "back to $70k", and the dead Bitcoin funeral  Tongue
Seems i still suck when it comes to irony, at least in english  Cheesy

I thought that I was mostly referring to your institutions are not active on the weekends comment rather than having any focus on your comment about how far we might or might not dip.  Surely, going back to $70k is not totally out of the question, yet based on current BTC price dynamic, it is starting to feel that even going into the upper $80ks might not be very likely.. ..

In some sense, it really seems that more damage is likely to be done to various newbies, no coiners and low coiners by going up rather than going down, so I am having my doubt about anyone getting meaningful opportunities to buy back even in the upper $80ks..... but hey whatever.. anything can happen.. so I am not going to end up being shocked if some kind of a surprise downity happened to happen.. yet even if you think about these bitcoin price dynamics since October 2023.. We haven't really been having any outrageously great dips, and even the supposed MTGOX (Germany dumping) dip that OgNasty was striving to take foresightful credit for, were really not very scary in the whole scheme of things.

When i look at the charts, i see many long wicks downward on those candles, lately, which suggests that there must be solid demand.
Anybody speculating on higher lows like $70k should be aware that he/she might well miss their target buying-zone, but since you demonstrated the strength and robustness of DCA (since i appeared here in 2017), and everybody can just DCA in parallel to trading volatility, which would probably work out well for one or the other.
Newbies have to get hurt sometimes, the earlier, the better. I got hurt very early in my history with Bitcoin, but what i have learned by that (smallish) pain has proven to be invaluable. Of course, some newbies going all-in will never come back after such events, and i also have to think a lot about that "Bitcoin will never go over $9k again" statement by my brother in law, when he refused to take BTC and rather took cash for work.

Is there even a nickname existing for peeps entering Bitcoin in 2017? Like "Gen 20k"-ers or smth like that?  Cheesy
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a little over a year ago we were hoping for page parity...  how quickly things change
Remember when parity with an ounce of gold was a thing?
Speaking of gold.

In 2013 I bought a 1/2 ounce gold coin, and a few silver coins from the user 2weiX here on the forum.

I still have the receipt in my mailbox. For the shipping fee only, I paid 0.95 btc. Here's a screenshot of how it looked.

We've come quite a bit since then.

Sorry for your loss.

so was that it for this year?
Yep. We're done. We're going back to $70k.
*blows out the candles*
*throws the cake away*

Bitcoin is dying again, see you at the funeral.
EDIT: No stupid, it's weekend. Institutions don't buy on weekends.
Not that I give too many shits, but it seems to me that from time to time, even since January 11 of this year when the BTC spot ETFs started trading, we have been having some pumps on the weekends..  

Last time I checked bitcoin trades 24/7 and it is not dependent upon institutions for each and every pump and sometimes even seems to teach lessons to institutions in its own ways...but yeah, if you want to buy into a theory that bitcoin has been ONLY pumping during normal business trading hours in the past 11 months, then surely I have my doubts about your interpretation and recollection of recent BTC price dynamic matters.

And that guy Gachapin is not stupid.  He is retarded.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  (I had to get that one in there, just for funzies)
You can take that statement as serious as "back to $70k", and the dead Bitcoin funeral  Tongue
Seems i still suck when it comes to irony, at least in english  Cheesy

I thought that I was mostly referring to your institutions are not active on the weekends comment rather than having any focus on your comment about how far we might or might not dip.  Surely, going back to $70k is not totally out of the question, yet based on current BTC price dynamic, it is starting to feel that even going into the upper $80ks might not be very likely.. ..

In some sense, it really seems that more damage is likely to be done to various newbies, no coiners and low coiners by going up rather than going down, so I am having my doubt about anyone getting meaningful opportunities to buy back even in the upper $80ks..... but hey whatever.. anything can happen.. so I am not going to end up being shocked if some kind of a surprise downity happened to happen.. yet even if you think about these bitcoin price dynamics since October 2023.. We haven't really been having any outrageously great dips, and even the supposed MTGOX (Germany dumping) dip that OgNasty was striving to take foresightful credit for, were really not very scary in the whole scheme of things.
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so was that it for this year?
Yep. We're done. We're going back to $70k.
*blows out the candles*
*throws the cake away*

Bitcoin is dying again, see you at the funeral.

EDIT: No stupid, it's weekend. Institutions don't buy on weekends.

Not that I give too many shits, but it seems to me that from time to time, even since January 11 of this year when the BTC spot ETFs started trading, we have been having some pumps on the weekends..  

Last time I checked bitcoin trades 24/7 and it is not dependent upon institutions for each and every pump and sometimes even seems to teach lessons to institutions in its own ways...but yeah, if you want to buy into a theory that bitcoin has been ONLY pumping during normal business trading hours in the past 11 months, then surely I have my doubts about your interpretation and recollection of recent BTC price dynamic matters.

And that guy Gachapin is not stupid.  He is retarded.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  (I had to get that one in there, just for funzies)


You can take that statement as serious as "back to $70k", and the dead Bitcoin funeral  Tongue
Seems i still suck when it comes to irony, at least in English  Cheesy
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Ok... ok.. ok.. I gotta do Phil's job too.. with a Buddy Sandwich at this hour?

Gosh.  What a world? What a world?

What you doing Phil?  Sleeping?  or maybe you are doing your pushups?

Anyhow... don't you know sleeping (and even pushups) is (are) overrated? even for old foggies?   Tongue Tongue

Edit:  Ok.  I fucked up.  I did not get the buddy sandwich as a single.. The buddy sandwich played out as a double, since I missed posting by 48 seconds.  Please come back Phil.  I did not truly and deeply down on the inside really intend to say anything meanie about you, your activities, or your age.

so was that it for this year?
Yep. We're done. We're going back to $70k.
*blows out the candles*
*throws the cake away*

Bitcoin is dying again, see you at the funeral.

EDIT: No stupid, it's weekend. Institutions don't buy on weekends.

Not that I give too many shits, but it seems to me that from time to time, even since January 11 of this year when the BTC spot ETFs started trading, we have been having some pumps on the weekends..  

Last time I checked bitcoin trades 24/7 and it is not dependent upon institutions for each and every pump and sometimes even seems to teach lessons to institutions in its own ways...but yeah, if you want to buy into a theory that bitcoin has been ONLY pumping during normal business trading hours in the past 11 months, then surely I have my doubts about your interpretation and recollection of recent BTC price dynamic matters.

And that guy Gachapin is not stupid.  He is retarded.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  (I had to get that one in there, just for funzies)

It feels like I'm repeating myself, bringing up lightning in every other post, but I think this is worth sharing.

This last month has been my best routing month ever since I set up this node, a bit more than 2 years ago.

I've made about 500k sats in profit this month, or about 1% APY. Looking back, I'm at about 0.25% APY since I started.

If I can keep this pace up, it might actually be worth it running a routing node, more than just a hobby.
That's awesome! What implementation are you using? LND? Would love to discuss in a DM as it's kinda off topic here.

I would proclaim that almost nothing is "off topic" here except perhaps pumping shitcoins.

Elaborate "everybody in the WO is back to whining again", please  Huh
Something something "You must be new here"

Good one.

Of course, anyone who has been around these here parts for more than a minute should appreciate that you, Torque, are a self-proclaimed full-time whiner, especially on the topic of being manipulated by the powers that be.

Accordingly, you never saw a conspiracy that you did not like, especially the numerological ones are near and dear to your heart..  

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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I dunno about I’m the opposite I’m extremely exuberant at all the price movements atm. Maybe that’s a product of being in for less time. I do understand what your saying too, but I dunno it’s nice to feel excited now and again and to give yourself permission to be excited too Smiley

Snap out of your young whipper-snapper levels of cccccccittteeeeeeee..

Ain't nobody got time for such optimism, in these here parts..

Don't u know nuttin?

Of course, not.. you are newie pooie.

 Tongue Tongue Tongue

a little over a year ago we were hoping for page parity...  how quickly things change
Still talking about page parity? Come on man, it's 2024... nearly 2025 already. That's not a thing anymore.
We should start talking about post parity instead.
You sure?

We might risk JJG answering individual posts one by one again

Ain't nobody got time for that.

And, don't be trying to use reverse psychology on me, either.

 Angry Angry Angry Angry


By the way, historically, there have been times where some of you guys (not going to be mentioning any names) were not pulling your weight in these here parts.  #justsaying

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...poor JJG... he is such a pure soul
I'm gonna record that statement in my database... just in case I want to reflect upon it at some later date.  Wink
That statement might only be half correct  Cheesy

Too late.

Already recorded.  You don't get off that easily.

a little over a year ago we were hoping for page parity...  how quickly things change
Remember when parity with an ounce of gold was a thing?
I remember chuckling about the pipe dream that someday there would be sat<=>penny parity.

We are about 1 10x away from that..

Bogglesome.
well lets be blunt 1 dollar a sat by the year 2030.

We can do 1 penny a sat in 2025 or 2026

we can do 10 cents a sat in 2028 or 2028

It could happen, but it surely is not realistic..... maybe less than a 2.135817% chance. .and of course, I am spit balling in regards to odds.. a lot of legs of up and down and "things" that would have to align.. whether knows, or unknowns or variations of the knowns and unknowns as itemized by Donald Rumsfeld.
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The walls are coming down, but ever so slowly.
I don't expect touching $100k before Monday, even if i'd be happy in case i'm wrong.

There could be a purposeful pump prior to the opening of business on Monday.. just to fuck with Tradfi system that are getting BTC price exposure.

What i'm really curious about is January 2025 and Q1/2025 in general, when i'm expecting a surprise, either in terms of up or down.

I think there will be up and/or down in January too... but I am feeling like I am not really very curious about it.. except I just have to make sure that my BTC sell orders go up high enough since right now they ONLY go up to $150k, so I have been a wee bit negligent in terms of setting up the higher ones.. .. . Logistically speaking I will likely have to move some more BTC to those accounts in order to have enough BTC there.. ...

Things to do .. things to do.. just to try to adapt to these current BTC price move conditions...It can be difficult to imagine everything smooth and no breakage or drama.. and it should be easier to be an already existing Bitcoiner, even though shitcoiners would be taking their positions too.. and yeah, maybe there are various shitcoiner theories, and the extent of leakage of shitcoiner baloney has not been bleeding here too much in recent times, even though there is shitcoiner activities out there overlapping with bitcoiner discussions, .. and so drama whether on a personal level or perhaps some macro-happening might be easier for those of us who don't consider ourselves to be traders.. since there are some guys who seem distracted and talking about selling BTC to buy back lower, which truly seems problematic and I imaging some of the trader guys might be in these here parts too.. ...

The walls are coming down, but ever so slowly.
I don't expect touching $100k before Monday, even if i'd be happy in case i'm wrong.
What i'm really curious about is January 2025 and Q1/2025 in general, when i'm expecting a surprise, either in terms of up or down.
100k is on the cards. I am curious where Bitcoin will settle in this run 150k, 200k or even more ?

Based on maths and sciences, more sounds like the best answer.... but we might need our residential maths/science expert to guide us more better.

Funny how we are screaming $100K this, $100K that
But few weeks ago we were screaming for a new ATH above $74K.
Humans are one beautifully flawed creatures
I love it.
Open Sesame $100K, too low
Appreciating Wealth.

To me, it seems best to scream (if we are going to go down that path) based on where we happen to be at rather than where we fantasize ourselves as being at...

And since we cannot really know the future with any kind of precision, it seems more grounded to begin any of our such screams, if we are going to make any, from facts on the ground as we perceive them to be.. ..

That is my own seemingly random and trite opinion on such topic of cornz's screaming.

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You must be new here...
AFAIR screaming (or dreaming) about $100k happened here first in 2017, when Bitcoin broke $10k.
Yeah I'm well aware of that.
It's just we were fixated on crossing $74K mark that $100K became secondary.
Now that's in the past and soon
when are we going to 7 digit will start been posted.

I have seen some early anticipatory screaming about 7 digits from purported bitcoiners who want to be ahead of the curve... but I cannot recall where.. perhaps not this thread.

I wonder if your screaming data might be representative of anything meaningful?  "We" might need a screaming index, like the greed index?

To be honest, breaking $100k feels very little to me. It's just like that meme where that dude staring at the screen at $99k, then lighting a candle at $100k, just to continue staring at the screen when >$100k.

I don't have that euphoric feeling like when we touched $20k in 2017 or $69k in 2021. I think this bull run has much more to give. With that said, I'm well prepared with some 20-30% pullbacks. The $100k level might very well be one of those.
New ATHs or breaking supposed psychological price levels never get me excited anymore. Especially bull runs that double or triple the price in mere weeks or a few months. They ALWAYS crash eventually. TPTB always wait until everything is totally bullish and euphoric and parabolic, and then they do the classic rug-pull. Every. Single. Fkn. Time. And then everybody here in the WO is back to whining again.

You know what would get me really excited? For the price to stay above $100K over the next 18-24 months.

Now THAT would get me really excited. Everything else is just noise.

I think that we are already in a good place, and we have been in a good place for the past 11 years that I have been in bitcoin.. Sure my first 3 years did not start out that great in terms of my mostly accumulating during that time and having a lot of time with my BTC either in the negative or barely break even.. but geez, things have been good in the past 8 years.. Cannot really complain, even though there was some ups and downs along the way, but for any of us mostly HODLing our stash.. and perhaps accumulating a bit more here and there and maybe shaving off a few here and there, it has been a great ride.. and even those first 3 years were not really that bad, even though being financially in the negative is not really very comfortable..but that was my own price of tuition.. and perhaps a few other mistakes that I made along the way, but never got taken out of the game, so far.. I have learned a lot over the years...and without bitcoin, I would be a lot more nervous and probably not really very clear about the other income systems and sources that I had already largely set up prior to getting into bitcoin.. since I would not have been able to live with such great financial and psychological cushion as having bitcoin to supplement my other systems...

Even if BTC bounces around between $70k and $180k in the next couple of years and we get some kind of a mediocre top, I still feel like I am in a great place, and there are likely limits in regards to any manipulation that the powers that be could do..

It seems to me that a lot of us normies have front run many of the powers that be and they are barely getting into bitcoin now and perhaps in the past year or so, but we still front run the fuck out of them, for any of us who had mostly accumulated most of our stack prior to the end of 2023.

I just have hardly anything to complain about, including that 1) we know this asset is volatile as fuck and 2) what the fuck should any of us expect. "oh incumbent bitcoiners, we would like to transfer our wealth over to you guys without any fight."  Of course, the status quo dick twat rich are not going to transfer their wealth over to the coiners without a fight and without some battles in the process...and any of us who are able to hang onto our coins and not get forced (or tricked) out of our coins should feel gleeful as fuck instead of complaining that the BTC price is not going up fast enough and not going up in enough of a straight line for our feelings.

You know another thing is that if you valuate your BTC stash with the 200-WMA, then you will see that it continues to go up and it never goes down.. so maybe start using the 200-WMA to valuate your BTC stash rather than getting all worked up about seeming inevitable volatility that is taking place during the largest wealth transfer in history from the no coiners to the coiners...and be happy that you are on the receiving end rather than the giving end.. as long as you don't complain your lil selfie out of the coins that you happen to have.

Maybe you are the kind of guy who can never be happy.  Things are going great, but you want to complain and to say you want more when we have what seems to be something as close to perfect as could be.. what could be better? especially for any of us who mostly were able to stack most of our cornz prior to the end of 2023?  Doesn't front running and ongoing winning feel good?  and also not getting distracted into shitcoins?  that's gotta feel good for most of us coiners...except a few who want to complain even when things are going almost as good as could be expected.

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Elaborate "everybody in the WO is back to whining again", please  Huh
We are at the beginning of the bullrun, it's perfectly normal to be not excited (yet).


Hahahaha

Exactly.. let's whine about what might happen, and also that we have been manipulated so badly and accordingly, we ONLY got a 3.7x since October 2023...  cry, cry, cry.. .
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