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legendary
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Don't see why people care this much  Huh short of some religious fanaticism. I mean it'd shake his hand and thank him for creating BTC and all but am i really the only asshole who only really cares if someone has private keys to Satoshi's stash?

At this point the idea is way more important than the person/entity creating the idea. I mean the team who created Internet/first protocol must've been awesome but how many people know/care who they are?
legendary
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Thanks for those clips, yefi.

In my humble bumble opinion, those kinds of appearances would not rule out Kleiman from being Satoshi.  Kleinman was characterized as both a recluse and also someone who kept people out of some of his personal matters.  Appearing on TV is not inconsistent with being a recluse, especially when the commentary was subject matter specific (and not about Kleinman himself). 

 I don't find either of those appearances nor his previous employment as a law enforcement person to be inconsistent with a person like satoshi who likely spent a considerable amount of time considering cryptography and ways to make a digital currency from such.

He strikes me as being exactly what's on the tin, a computer forensic expert. No more, no less. As I know well, looks can be deceiving however.

Anyway, I see he gave a webinar. Looking at the slides, he used American spelling, e.g., organizing, which you can compare with Satoshi's. There were a couple of punctuation errors as well, including the use of a quotation mark for an apostrophe. Notice the single spacing after full stops as well.


Yes... exactly... You cannot strictly go by looks or hunch, but you do have to start somewhere, and as you seem to suggest, some pieces of evidence are more convincing than others. 

In some of my earlier posts, I have expressed considerable skepticism (is this like Stolfi view of bitcoin's long term success?) regarding Wright's being Satoshi...   Not only is it Wright's mannerisms, but his whole apparent business mind approach to things, his experiences, his apparent bad motives, his seeming to try to hard, his coming off as a phoney and a scammer, and just too many logical and internal inconsistencies to have any confidence that Wright is in fact Satoshi... Wright seems to want it and not want it and want it and not want it and what the fuck?

In my earlier response to you however, I was not really arguing either way regarding Kleiman, except to suggest that either news appearance (as a "computer forensic expert") and some of his other background is not inconsistent with being Satoshi..... and yeah, some of the additional evidence that you point in the above post would give further doubts to Keiman as Satoshi, even though not conclusive.... but pieces of evidence to add to the mix of inferences.   
legendary
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Crazy theory:  Satoshi was Kleiman + Wright + Szabo (others?).

Szabo wrote the paper.

this is Satoshi  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtdE7P1VjrM
the apple fell and hit his head and BOOM it all made sense.
everyone else just helped make this idea a reality.
by that standard its impossible to ever prove who had that lightbulb moment.  
short of this i think we can label anyone that took a big roll in bitcoins initial dev. as Satoshi  
so yes Satoshi  was Kleiman + Wright + Szabo (others?).


Very good point...   lightbulb idea verses actual implementation.   Grin Grin
legendary
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Crazy theory:  Satoshi was Kleiman + Wright + Szabo (others?).

Szabo wrote the paper.

this is Satoshi  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtdE7P1VjrM
the apple fell and hit his head and BOOM it all made sense. ( more specifically the one that came up with POW, POW is the the core idea in bitcoin that is totally original and makes it all work.)
everyone else just helped make this idea a reality.
by that standard its impossible to ever prove who had that lightbulb moment.  
short of this i think we can label anyone that took a big roll in bitcoins initial dev. as Satoshi  
so yes Satoshi  was Kleiman + Wright + Szabo (others?).




legendary
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Crazy theory:  Satoshi was Kleiman + Wright + Szabo (others?).

Szabo wrote the paper, among other things.  Consistent with Ian's account of a "team", and forensic analysis of writing styles:
http://financialcryptography.com/

It's easy to say you "aren't Satoshi" when Satoshi was no single entity, but a blending of a few specialized talents/skills.  You wouldn't even technically be lying!
legendary
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Went from thinking ~5% chance Craig Wright is Satoshi, to ~60% chance that either (1) Craig is Satoshi, (2) Craig was a part of the team "comprising" Satoshi, or (3) that he knew Satoshi (probably David Kleiman).  I think (2) is probably closest to the truth.

If Kleiman has the BTC, and this is heavily hinted at, that 1.1M BTC, worth over $500M, may very well have "died" with him.  This is consistent with several of the reports including from Gizmodo.  1.1M BTC assuredly locked up would be .... ohhhh so good for BTC price.   Cheesy Cheesy

I think we'll all know ~week from now.
legendary
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Thanks for those clips, yefi.

In my humble bumble opinion, those kinds of appearances would not rule out Kleiman from being Satoshi.  Kleinman was characterized as both a recluse and also someone who kept people out of some of his personal matters.  Appearing on TV is not inconsistent with being a recluse, especially when the commentary was subject matter specific (and not about Kleinman himself). 

 I don't find either of those appearances nor his previous employment as a law enforcement person to be inconsistent with a person like satoshi who likely spent a considerable amount of time considering cryptography and ways to make a digital currency from such.

He strikes me as being exactly what's on the tin, a computer forensic expert. No more, no less. As I know well, looks can be deceiving however.

Anyway, I see he gave a webinar. Looking at the slides, he used American spelling, e.g., organizing, which you can compare with Satoshi's. There were a couple of punctuation errors as well, including the use of a quotation mark for an apostrophe. Notice the single spacing after full stops as well.
legendary
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Yeez, Louise! Podyx is Swedish!

Edit: Tjenare, grabben!

Swedish cheese, much like the Swedish army knife, is not really famous.

@Fatman3001, the bear rubbed one off into a cocktail shaker & is gonna drink it? I don't get it. A pun on "cock"tail Huh

It's a teddy, he doesn't have a dick. Get your mind out of the gutter.

Yes, he does!



Friggin millenials and your sexy teddys
legendary
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Interesting theory that Wright's friend David Kleiman (who died 3 days after telling Gavin he was moving on to other things) was Satoshi.

https://seebitcoin.com/2016/05/everything-makes-sense-if-david-kleiman-was-satoshi-nakamoto-heres-why/

It's a good explanation of motives, though Kleiman never struck me as Satoshi. Also, as a recluse, it's strange that he was giving interviews on CNN:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEVVpK4hL4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkN4Qr4uz4w


Thanks for those clips, yefi.

In my humble bumble opinion, those kinds of appearances would not rule out Kleiman from being Satoshi.  Kleinman was characterized as both a recluse and also someone who kept people out of some of his personal matters.  Appearing on TV is not inconsistent with being a recluse, especially when the commentary was subject matter specific (and not about Kleinman himself). 

 I don't find either of those appearances nor his previous employment as a law enforcement person to be inconsistent with a person like satoshi who likely spent a considerable amount of time considering cryptography and ways to make a digital currency from such.
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Yeez, Louise! Podyx is Swedish!

Edit: Tjenare, grabben!

Swedish cheese, much like the Swedish army knife, is not really famous.

@Fatman3001, the bear rubbed one off into a cocktail shaker & is gonna drink it? I don't get it. A pun on "cock"tail Huh

It's a teddy, he doesn't have a dick. Get your mind out of the gutter.

Yes, he does!

legendary
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Edit: Btw, what the f*** would the swedes need an army knife for?

[img width=450 ]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/Saab-JAS-39_at_ILA_2010_05.jpg[/img]

Wars are not won with bottle openers.

Is that an airplane built by that failed Swedish car company that used to make weird Swedish cars before it failed? Sort of like Tatra only not cool at all?

yup

Then how was he? He's going to drink someone else's cum? Is it funny because bear is Swedish? Getting more confused Sad

You're too hung up on cum to keep your eye on the ball.
newbie
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Edit: Btw, what the f*** would the swedes need an army knife for?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/Saab-JAS-39_at_ILA_2010_05.jpg

Wars are not won with bottle openers.

Is that an airplane built by that failed Swedish car company that used to make weird Swedish cars before it failed? Sort of like Tatra only not cool at all?
newbie
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Yeez, Louise! Podyx is Swedish!

Edit: Tjenare, grabben!

Swedish cheese, much like the Swedish army knife, is not really famous.

@Fatman3001, the bear rubbed one off into a cocktail shaker & is gonna drink it? I don't get it. A pun on "cock"tail Huh

It's a teddy, he doesn't have a dick. Get your mind out of the gutter.

Then how was he? He's going to drink someone else's cum? Is it funny because bear is Swedish? Getting more confused Sad
legendary
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Yeez, Louise! Podyx is Swedish!

Edit: Tjenare, grabben!

Swedish cheese, much like the Swedish army knife, is not really famous.

@Fatman3001, the bear rubbed one off into a cocktail shaker & is gonna drink it? I don't get it. A pun on "cock"tail Huh

It's a teddy, he doesn't have a dick. Get your mind out of the gutter.

Edit: Btw, what the f*** would the swedes need an army knife for?



Wars are not won with bottle openers.
newbie
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Yeez, Louise! Podyx is Swedish!

Edit: Tjenare, grabben!

Swedish cheese, much like the Swedish army knife, is not really famous.

@Fatman3001, the bear rubbed one off into a cocktail shaker & is gonna drink it? I don't get it. A pun on "cock"tail Huh
legendary
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^^^^
Tzupy is always ready for a bear party.


legendary
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This is just from the Craig Wright media exposure, which could turn into bad publicity. Don't pin your hopes on it.
legendary
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Yeez, Louise! Podyx is Swedish!

Edit: Tjenare, grabben!

haha, tja Wink

I should have known. I see your avatar is Christer Fuglesang.
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legendary
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Craig Wright interview (3 parts), supposedly from June 10th, 2014:

vimeo.com/149035662  
vimeo.com/149115042



Check out "part 2" (vimeo.com/149115042), starting at about ~9min 50sec mark.  

Has he been planning this for years?

That part is the most convincing evidence thus far.
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