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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 18894. (Read 26630672 times)

newbie
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First of many stories to come before the halving g designed to keep price down.

Serious question: Who are They, why do They want to keep the price down before the halving, and are They gonna keep holding it down after the halving too?

muaahaaa haaa , we are all they...we want all the coins....we will keep it down for as long as it takes....muahaaahaa  

So this price manipulation is gonna go on indefinitely? No gazillion-dollar coin in our lifetime? Those bastards! Cry

Re Gavin/Vitalik thing: Vitalik's the guy who dumped his ethers correct?
legendary
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from a fellow redditor..
thegtabmxredditor for 2 months 27 points 9 hours ago*
It's OK, Q&A

Gavin prefaced the panel during his introduction by saying that he wasn't hacked and that he does believe Craig, and that he would answer questions during the Q&A afterwards. The panel included Vitalik, who sat to his right.

During the Q&A, no one asked Gavin any questions, so Gavin decided to talk about the Craig/Satoshi news himself. He gave his 1-minute reasoning why he is convinced that Craig is Satoshi, because he signed a text that he (Gavin) chose, and verified it himself.

It seemed like the crowd was going to accept that, and the session was going to end, but then Vitalik just started taking, and said he'd give his reasoning on why he thinks Craig isn't Satoshi.

He said, Craig has 2 ways to prove himself. The first, and easiest/simplest, being to just sign a unique message and post it publicly so everyone can verify it. The second would be to post some long blog post (that was arguably more complicated to understand than actually verifying some signed text) and only ask a select few to choose a message, show the signature to, and ask to verify. Vitalik then says that this fails basic signaling theory, and thus Craig is not Satoshi. Gavin twerked his head and nodded as if to say, "I see you point. Meh."

The panel session ended right there. The crowd laughed. I laughed. Vitalik laughed. There moderator laughed. The crowd laughed some more. Gavin seemed uncomfortable.

lols
legendary
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Who is to say the creator of the genesis block longest chain longest thread on Bitcointalk isn't Satoshi...

legendary
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First of many stories to come before the halving g designed to keep price down.

Serious question: Who are They, why do They want to keep the price down before the halving, and are They gonna keep holding it down after the halving too?

muaahaaa haaa , we are all they...we want all the coins....we will keep it down for as long as it takes....muahaaahaa   
legendary
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wright is NOT satoshi...100% bullshit, if im wrong ill dump all my BTC forever  Tongue

quoted for evidence  Wink
double quoted , lol
what do u think...wright is satoshi? lol

yes
* yefi puts on his gorilla suit

If he publicly and verifiably signs a message from the genesis block, I'll give your newbie butt 1 shiny bitcoin. Quote it.
i wonder if hes willing to offer the same if hes wrong? lol

I think this is Gavs crews last attempt at a coup
i watched his bbc interview...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DCAC1j2HTY  made me LOL
newbie
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First of many stories to come before the halving g designed to keep price down.

Serious (compound) question: Who are They, why do They want to keep the price down before the halving, and are They gonna keep holding it down after the halving too?
legendary
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wright is NOT satoshi...100% bullshit, if im wrong ill dump all my BTC forever  Tongue

quoted for evidence  Wink
double quoted , lol
what do u think...wright is satoshi? lol

yes
* yefi puts on his gorilla suit

If he publicly and verifiably signs a message from the genesis block, I'll give your newbie butt 1 shiny bitcoin. Quote it.
legendary
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First of many stories to come before the halving g designed to keep price down.
newbie
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legendary
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I think only Barbara Woodhouse had the chops for this type of thing and she's now no longer with us.

"Choke chain is a misnomer, they are always breathing."  Cool


This James Randi, isn't he a typical Canadian drunk that snuck into our country? The sort of parasitic filth President Trump is gonna send back to that God-forsaken frozen wilderness from whence it came?

I bet that timberland savage don't even have no master's, no wonder he hates smart people so much.

Sure, the first time he was put on stage, he took an axe to it thinking it was firewood, but he's progressed magnificently since. Soon he may not even use a moose for transport.
legendary
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this post is stolen from another individual (from a post years ago)!
http://www.drcraigwright.net/generating-bitcoin-address/

seems like satoshi   Roll Eyes
ImI
legendary
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wright is NOT satoshi...100% bullshit, if im wrong ill dump all my BTC forever  Tongue

quoted for evidence  Wink
double quoted , lol
what do u think...wright is satoshi? lol

yes
legendary
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hidden gem of enlightenment?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4hflr3/craig_wrights_signature_is_worthless/d2pm2rc

on one side, you have Gavin's subjective account.  on the other side, a mounting stack of evidence hinting at the contrary.     Shocked Shocked
legendary
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wright is NOT satoshi...100% bullshit, if im wrong ill dump all my BTC forever  Tongue

quoted for evidence  Wink
double quoted , lol
what do u think...wright is satoshi? lol
ImI
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1019
wright is NOT satoshi...100% bullshit, if im wrong ill dump all my BTC forever  Tongue

quoted for evidence  Wink
sr. member
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Whatever the reason(s) why Gavin believes in Wright might be, I don't believe in bad intentions. And he has (had) to handle more impressions and informations then the rest of us, also more subjective information (direct communication) etc. And the situation with Wright most likely was convincing.

With other words: I don't blame him for believing it. What I see as a mistake is that he (Gavin) wrote a blogpost. That was premature and I'm sure he regrets it.

No, it isn't just an example of a simple mistake , but gross negligence with extreme levels of credulity after a great amount of evidence discrediting Wright from last year, now more evidence from many different sources discrediting wright further with clear explanations on how and why Craig Wright is a likely fraud and at minimum lying with evidence provided.... and after all this Gavin still suggests he believes CW is Satoshi. This is far beyond any mistake , and raises some serious questions to either his competence or authenticity. Either way, both classic and core should permanently revoke his commit access.

I'll wait for the next days to see if G.A. distances himself from his post and gives further explanations.

...

I'll give it a few days until the dust settles too. If Wright hasn't signed a message by then Gavin's reputation will be destroyed.

Do you remember that guy who moved coins mined in 2009 last year, and we all thought he was Satoshi? He signed a message on reddit saying "It was me" to prove he controlled those coins, then denied he was Satoshi. I'd be more inclined to believe he was Satoshi than Wright unless Wright signs a message like him.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ln77n/coinbases_from_feb_3_2009_just_moved_for_the/cv7pyra

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btcthwy 30 points 7 months ago

"It was me 20/9/2015" IC8oSnQ+CNMhqDYu7hTQXb+kvrbu/r3EXjiLjLvFIsQuDlxUSqXWZj7TRiLcLnmT+ErjgjOr7dVRC/GB47IKYk0=

I want to be able to sign coinbase transactions (you must possess the private key to be able to transact), but is not an option in bitcoin-qt


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[–]chinawat 19 points 7 months ago

Excellent. Verifies for me with address:
1HUidFPHZ7cJ6WYmR8nMPQCmmE3mbVKYjM

Congrats on being a true Bitcoin elder. Enjoy those satoshis!
hero member
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Bear with me
I can no longer bear all this Wright talk. He is a fraud.
legendary
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wright is NOT satoshi...100% bullshit, if im wrong ill dump all my BTC forever  Tongue
newbie
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No, it isn't just an example of a simple mistake , but gross negligence with extreme levels of credulity after a great amount of evidence discrediting Wright from last year, now more evidence from many different sources discrediting wright further with clear explanations on how and why Craig Wright is a likely fraud and at minimum lying with evidence provided.... and after all this Gavin still suggests he believes CW is Satoshi. This is far beyond any mistake , and raises some serious questions to either his competence or authenticity. Either way, both classic and core should permanently revoke his commit access.

Yes yes! Gross negligence with extreme levels of credulity.  Raises some serious questions, it do!
legendary
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Whatever the reason(s) why Gavin believes in Wright might be, I don't believe in bad intentions. And he has (had) to handle more impressions and informations then the rest of us, also more subjective information (direct communication) etc. And the situation with Wright most likely was convincing.

With other words: I don't blame him for believing it. What I see as a mistake is that he (Gavin) wrote a blogpost. That was premature and I'm sure he regrets it.

No, it isn't just an example of a simple mistake , but gross negligence with extreme levels of credulity after a great amount of evidence discrediting Wright from last year, now more evidence from many different sources discrediting wright further with clear explanations on how and why Craig Wright is a likely fraud and at minimum lying with evidence provided.... and after all this Gavin still suggests he believes CW is Satoshi. This is far beyond any mistake , and raises some serious questions to either his competence or authenticity. Either way, both classic and core should permanently revoke his commit access.

I'll wait for the next days to see if G.A. distances himself from his post and gives further explanations. For now I think it's a wild mixture of impressions and a more psychological not-easy-situation. Can't explain precise what I want to say in english.

But in general my opinion is: Gavin did a lot for Bitcoin and I never had any doubts about his integrity. In this case he was too credulous and with a lack of professionalism. But: Bitcoin is not a company, G.A. is no "CEO", everybody is free to believe and free to say his opinion and also to change an opinion. And I believe that will happen if Wright doesn't show real proof for the public.
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