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legendary
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#Free market
Is it over guys or is it just the the beginning ?

The four hour moving average just turned negative, meaning the bulls lost the momentum for now. There's no more to read into this than that. 


Thanks for your opinion Wink , I'm still holding few bitcoins and it is very addicting follow the various events (from a speculative point of view).
legendary
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lose: unfind ... loose: untight
I know the U.S. has suppressed voices of dissent, but in modern times we've had nothing like the Tienanmen Square Massacre.

I'm on board with your main point, but I need to stop you right here.

Waco, anyone? How soon we forget.
legendary
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Hide your women
Is it over guys or is it just the the beginning ?

The four hour moving average just turned negative, meaning the bulls lost the momentum for now. There's no more to read into this than that. 
legendary
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Flippin' burgers since 1163.
From Toxic Assets to Digital Currency Bitcoin: Barry Silbert's Bold Bet:

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While others were debating whether digital currency met the textbook definition of money the blocksize, Silbert saw that bitcoin was a triple threat to established markets, because it could function as a store of value, like gold; as a method of payment for online commerce, like credit cards or PayPal; and as a global transaction network, like Western Union or MoneyGram. There are about $7 trillion worth of gold in the world today. E-commerce is a $1.6 trillion industry. According to the World Bank, a total of $583 billion in remittances flowed to nations around the world in 2014, and an estimated $600 billion in 2015. What if bitcoin were to claim even a small percentage of any of these markets, never mind all three?

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"When you have a world that is printing money, the concept of a decentralized, non-government-controlled, non-company-controlled currency that has a finite supply had a certain amount of appeal to me," Silbert said. "I didn't fully appreciate the whole technical aspect [of bitcoin] at first. But economically it just kind of made sense."
--> AKA going down the rabbit hole, sounds familiar  Grin.

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"If I'm going to make an investment in a high-risk opportunity like bitcoin, I'm only going to do it if it's going to move the needle for me," Silbert said of his early investment in the digital currency*​.
--> Never understood people buying less then 1% of their net worth in what they immediately feel is intrinsically awesome.

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To familiarize his staff with the digital currency, he was going to give each of them, out of his personal hoard, two bitcoins — one to save and one to spend.
--> Smart guy, don't just put it all in a paper wallet and sit on it. Once used (for payments) and you really starting to get it.

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Yet he remains steadfast in the opinion that the industry will come around to embracing the currency. Banks' experiments with private blockchains will prove to be nothing more than "a gateway drug, ultimately, to them using the bitcoin blockchain," he said, "and then also to holding bitcoins, trading bitcoins, speculating in bitcoins."

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Within five years, he predicts, bitcoin either "will be a failed experiment, and something else will have taken its place, or it will be eating the world."
--> Exiting times ahead, and I thought the last two years were already awesome. Never a dull day in Bitcoinland!
legendary
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#Free market
Is it over guys or is it just the the beginning ?
legendary
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Trusted Bitcoiner
ah fucking hell wtf.

GF's debit card stashed between pages of Atlas Shrugged, new PIN on p. 36.
Double down.
GL!
PM your physical address

No no no, no time to explain, run to ATM now!


395 Avenue Dorval, Dorval, QC H9S 3H6

lets meet for a friendly chat

I dunno...



I don't wanna get roughed up or nothing... You look pretty badass in your pics... and in Canada... that's a dangerous neighborhood...
Too scairt.
dude come on its in public

wtf am i going to do?

I know all about you Bitcoiners -- first you'll steal my money, then my virginity (I just know there's a dumpster behind that gas station, that's where you're planning to rape me, innit?) Angry


LMAO
legendary
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full member
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ah fucking hell wtf.

GF's debit card stashed between pages of Atlas Shrugged, new PIN on p. 36.
Double down.
GL!
PM your physical address

No no no, no time to explain, run to ATM now!


395 Avenue Dorval, Dorval, QC H9S 3H6

lets meet for a friendly chat

I dunno...



I don't wanna get roughed up or nothing... You look pretty badass in your pics... and in Canada... that's a dangerous neighborhood...
Too scairt.
dude come on its in public

wtf am i going to do?

I know all about you Bitcoiners -- first you'll steal my money, then my virginity (I just know there's a dumpster behind that gas station, that's where you're planning to rape me, innit?) Angry

legendary
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You're never too old to think young.
A very late good morning Bitcoinland. Down by $20 I see, which amounts to  4.5% dip.

Too bad it's not quite enough for me to consider buyable. Just an annoying little speed bump on the road up.
sr. member
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Where's the moon I was promised

Maybe it's a special kind of moon?



Maybe a special kind of moon that is well known for being down if you know what I mean Wink

More seriously, I don't really understand what's happening...
Oh I know, it's bitcoin, I wasn't expecting to be precisly right and all... But nearly everyone was talking about a huge momentum and a big upper trend and whatever. Well shit yeah ^^
legendary
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Trusted Bitcoiner
ah fucking hell wtf.

GF's debit card stashed between pages of Atlas Shrugged, new PIN on p. 36.
Double down.
GL!
PM your physical address

No no no, no time to explain, run to ATM now!


395 Avenue Dorval, Dorval, QC H9S 3H6

lets meet for a friendly chat

I dunno...



I don't wanna get roughed up or nothing... You look pretty badass in your pics... and in Canada... that's a dangerous neighborhood...
Too scairt.
dude come on its in public

wtf am i going to do?
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
ah fucking hell wtf.

GF's debit card stashed between pages of Atlas Shrugged, new PIN on p. 36.
Double down.
GL!
PM your physical address

No no no, no time to explain, run to ATM now!


395 Avenue Dorval, Dorval, QC H9S 3H6

lets meet for a friendly chat

I dunno...



I don't wanna get roughed up or nothing... You look pretty badass in your pics... and in Canada... that's a dangerous neighborhood...
Too scairt.
legendary
Activity: 1554
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Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
ah fucking hell wtf.

GF's debit card stashed between pages of Atlas Shrugged, new PIN on p. 36.
Double down.
GL!
PM your physical address

No no no, no time to explain, run to ATM now!


395 Avenue Dorval, Dorval, QC H9S 3H6

lets meet for a friendly chat

A gas station in the middle of nowhere.

Bitcoiners.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1037
Trusted Bitcoiner
ah fucking hell wtf.

GF's debit card stashed between pages of Atlas Shrugged, new PIN on p. 36.
Double down.
GL!
PM your physical address

No no no, no time to explain, run to ATM now!


395 Avenue Dorval, Dorval, QC H9S 3H6

lets meet for a friendly chat

ill come to you if you prefer.
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
ah fucking hell wtf.

GF's debit card stashed between pages of Atlas Shrugged, new PIN on p. 36.
Double down.
GL!
PM your physical address

No no no, no time to explain, run to ATM now!
legendary
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Hide your women
What is SUPPOSED to happen according to economic theory is that as quantity of money creation decreases (halvings), velocity of money (transactions) is supposed to go up to compensate, maintaining the balance of MV=PQ.  This clearly cannot happen if scaling is slower than halvings.  

Somebody please tell me the error of my thinking, or a slow liquidation becomes a serious consideration.  

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1) They don't effect the velocity (v). They effect the quantity (M).  So because MV=PQ, a decrease in M MUST be compensated by a proportional increase in V in order for the equation to balance out. If it doesn't, then either price or quantity (or both) on the other side must adjust.

ok. I see where you're going wrong.

The equation of exchange is a real identity. So you can actually put anything you like in for those variables, but when you do, you get a certain interpretation of the rest.
In your first reference to it above, you used the money supply creation rate instead of the money supply. As a result, you're looking at a strange definition of 'velocity'. Yours is something like 'average number of transactions per CREATED money unit per unit time' - that's just plain weird.
In the second reference you made above, you used a more normal M which gives a meaningful 'velocity' to discuss. But in this reference, you've continued the wrong idea about M from the first reference. There's no decrease in M as a result of halvings.

Ok, that makes sense. Thank you. So let's look at M as meaning the full 21 million bitcoins ever to be mined. M is constant, but as we approach this limit, we also approach the V limit of 1GB blocks or whatever.  At some point in the future around 2040 at the latest, there will be no more real movement on the left hand side of the equation, right?
legendary
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years ago there was a manipulator with ~500,000Coins, he got #rect and so will this guy.




they rekt billyjoe shorts... i mean they killed kenny again .

No, they didn't rek my hedge yet. A hedge is a bet you want to lose, like buying life insurance.

Well, they killed mine :-/
legendary
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Trusted Bitcoiner
ah fucking hell wtf.

GF's debit card stashed between pages of Atlas Shrugged, new PIN on p. 36.
Double down.
GL!
PM your physical address
full member
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ah fucking hell wtf.

GF's debit card stashed between pages of Atlas Shrugged, new PIN on p. 36.
Double down.
GL!
hero member
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btc going up on a tuesday Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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