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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 25970. (Read 26607966 times)

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That is how I always buy a car... I download a contract from the internet... and wait for the car to come through the modem/G4 connection.   always worked so far....  and car garages have always just sent me the car without ever setting eyes on me...  simples

Come on, I used "car" to suggest a sizable amount.  Replace it with "plane tickets" or "home theater" or whatever if you wish.

But isn't bitcoin supposed to be used to pay for everyting through the internet, from chewing gum to a mansion in Bali? 

(And if you buy a gold-plated Rolls Royce from a reputable dealer 1000 miles away, why would he not deliver it to your home -- after he got your check and cashed it?)

A couple of weeks ago, some famous bitcoin guru (Matonis?) explained in an article how in the future one would walk into a car dealership, choose a model,  point the smartphone to the QR code on the windscreen, and drive out, without interacting with a single person.  He did not mention satoshi-testing, air gap, brainwallet -- or what the client would to if the sticker on the windscreen turned out to be fake.
legendary
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things you own end up owning you
if you have some Litecoins to play with go here: www.liteluck.com
legendary
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Obvious troll is becoming obvious.

It is a student question automaton. The purpose is, by means of automation, to support the students in their quest to understand bitcoin, and a test to make sure they can answer all expression of doubt with adequate clarity.

As new and ever greater waves of students enter with the passing of time, the learning starts on the base level, with the same problems. The automaton saves time that otherwise would have to be expended from the hodlers. Of course, should a student go astray, the real teacher's are only a click away, scanning the messages boards while simultaniously staring at bitcoinwisdom.

The propositions the students have to adequately refute, are presented in a round robin manner. Note that there are some inconsistencies, and there is some truthiness to some of them. This is just to sharpen the brain of the students. Here is the list (reading it before exams constitutes fraud):

It's a ponzi.

It's a pyramid.

There is no intrinsic value.

There is intrinsic value.

Transactions are expensive.

It's unsecure

It's not needed.

Price will go to 10

Killed by governments

You need a big company

Governments work as specified.

You are not supposed to be free.

They can be produced infinitely using alternative chains

It's not anonymous

Used for drugs

Its too volatile

It is not a unit of account

Nobody can understand bitcoin

There should be a bitcoin central bank

There should be a different coin in each country

When you trade using bitcoin, you have to convert currency trice

ISIS use them

gold is the only money

Nobody can afford a bitcoin

Mining monopoly will kill it

Mining is too expensive

There is no backing

There is no redemption

You can not eat bitcoin

The world is unfair

Rich people should never be allowed to decide where the factory should be located.

Girls use bitcoin

Bitcoin can run on solar power

An asteroide will hit the earth.

I should not go to bed now







 Cheesy  

and "truthiness" brilliant word.

(if you watch this show....... and I hope that you do)

I do, sometimes.
legendary
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For anyone that has not seen the video posted by Jorge, of Jorge playing with his balls please view here
http://youtu.be/rFEGFEGMDBc  Grin

I also posted a lesson on how to double your money without leaving your desk; but that does not translate well into English, unfortunately (and it was done well before I heard of bitcoin, which has made it obsolete):    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9i6XwhH_jo

Really really splendid stuff....   I can see how this fits with the other highlights of your career.

"Jorge was a tireless worker and would spend long hours at the lab. Rumor
had it that he lived on a clock that had 26-hour days, so he would precess and
shift his sleeping time from day to day. As far as I know he spent ten years in
California without ever learning how to drive, and his wife Rumiko would come
to pick him up. I have many memories of coming to the office in the morning to
find Rumiko waiting for Jorge to come down and go home.
Jorge combines deep mathematical intuition with remarkable programming
skills – many people have one or the other of these capabilities, but the combina-
tion is rare. Even more rare is another aspect of Jorge’s intellect. Jorge is able,
better than anyone I have ever known, to put clean mathematical structure on an
amorphous set of vague ideas and produce elegant and informative mathematical
abstractions that allow insightful formal reasoning on a problem. I cannot count
the number of times that I walked away from a technical conversation with Jorge
thinking that now, finally, I understand the essence of the problem we’ve been
discussing. Jorge likes both his ideas and his programs (and yes, not to forget,
his LATEX macros) to be clean, well organized, and surgically appropriate to the
task at hand. In this respect, and in balance overall, I think Jorge was more of a
teacher to me rather than the other way around.
I want to close by mentioning another characteristic of Jorge, his remarkable
diversity and versatility, as demonstrated over a long and distinguished scientific
career. Jorge’s curiosity is not limited to any one special topic. Besides computer
graphics and computational geometry, he has made many other contributions to
interval arithmetic, splines, image search, the reconstruction or archaeological
artifacts, elasticity, and even the Voynich manuscript analysis.
So happy birthday, Jorge, and my best wishes for many more productive years
to come. Even after all these years, I still miss having you around – and in that
vein let me publically remind you that you promised to come spend a sabbatical
at Stanford Smiley"

are you tenured prof?  

It seems bating Bitcoin followers and folding notes and playing with balls seem ... a little.....  well.... pointless.

Like I said.. moments ago.. it seems to me you could put yourself to much greater use... to humanity as a whole ... by maybe fixing problems that you see
rather than wasting time here... unless you simply enojoy wasting time nowadays... or feel that you are not able.

Anyways...  as you were
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playing pasta and eating mandolinos
I can't imagine how this researcher seems to not understand cryptography. Or even how a university professor has the balls to talk about cults. And do not let me started on his interpretation of what is an irrefutable proof.
legendary
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You've spent 67 days trolling these forums?

I respect your dedication to....naysaying?
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For anyone that has not seen the video posted by Jorge, of Jorge playing with his balls please view here
http://youtu.be/rFEGFEGMDBc  Grin

I also posted a lesson on how to double your money without leaving your desk; but that does not translate well into English, unfortunately (and it was done well before I heard of bitcoin, which has made it obsolete):    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9i6XwhH_jo
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playing pasta and eating mandolinos
hero member
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Jorge, in the top left of your screen, there is some data about how much time you've spent trolling these forums.  Would you mind sharing that with us?

You mean, how long I have been logged in? 67 days, 8 hours and 0 minutes.  (It should be much more, because since January I leave at least one tab permanently open on this forum, even while I am not here.  Presumably the forum software stops counting after the tab has been inactive for some time.)
legendary
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And hey man, i think you have two eyes and some read skills to check the address of your car dealer is the correct, don't you? Don't you trust yourself?

Check it against what?

You get a copy of the sales contract with the address and the QR-code before you transfer the coins.

... a contract which you downloaded from what seemed to be their website?



That is how I always buy a car... I download a contract from the internet... and wait for the car to come through the modem/G4 connection

always worked so far....  and car garages have always just sent me the car without ever setting eyes on me...  simples


ps Jorge... if you were not actually trolling... you might put you brains to some use!  find solutions... come on you are actually a computer scientist no?
instead you seem to actually enjoy repeating the same old shit over and over again...  far from tire from it.
legendary
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Watch this space closely, there's some serious smoke emanating from the JPMorgan Chase data centers ... I've been following this for a while and piecing the bits together it looks like JPMorgan might be effectively pwnd, and perhaps a targeted attack by a geo-political enemy. Given JPMorgan is the commercial arm of the Federal Reserve acting in the markets (or vice versa) it's significant far beyond the headlines letting on

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-05/jpmorgan-had-exodus-of-tech-talent-before-hacker-breach.html

The breach went undetected until mid-August, months after hackers initially exploited a flaw in the company’s website to gain entry to internal systems,

‘what the hell is inside of us?’



There is a war between JPM and GoldmanSachs. I dont see JPM as FEDs arm. If one it would be  more GS. Friend of mine working in quants in JPM in london told me they are under constant pressire because of GS.

Edit: and just by checking the list of bankers "suicides" you can clearly tell who is loosing that war... ^^
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I already provided you with an example where hackers stolen credit card information from the Sony servers, yes credit card info included, i was affected, read again my last post. -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Network_outage

From that article:
And hey man, i think you have two eyes and some read skills to check the address of your car dealer is the correct, don't you? Don't you trust yourself?

Check it against what?

You get a copy of the sales contract with the address and the QR-code before you transfer the coins.

... a contract which you downloaded from what seemed to be their website?

What is the threshold amount above which you always satoshi-test the address before sending the full payment?

And last, are you saying that someone will try to make a collision of my offline generated private keys and stole the bitcoins? Hint: it would take an average of 1,618,542,460,620,902,128,345,579,373 years to generate a collision with a computer that is 1 million times as powerfull as all current miners combined.

Hint 0: Did the private keys appear magically on the paper wallet, or did they come from somewhere else?

Hint 1: How can you check that the private key on the paper wallet was randomly chosen among all possible keys?

you have no idea what you are talking about

Well, I grant that at least one of us has not completely understood the technology yet.


I am tired of arguing against the bitcoiners' collective blind spot for the risk of theft. 

Stealing bitcoins is easier than stealing other forms of money: this is supported by logic and confirmed by the facts.  While this problem may be attenuated eventually, bitcoin theft, unlike other forms of money theft, is also IMMEDIATE, IRREVERSIBLE, and SAFE FOR THE THIEF -- problems which seem impossible to fix, because they are actually part of bitcoin's goals.

This is a serious obstacle for bitcoins adoption.  People who heard about MtGOX generally do not trust it; but that is because they don't know the details.  If they knew them, and knew about the hundreds of other scams and heists, and knew that practically all of them are still unsolved ---  they would run away from it like hell.

I don't know what else to say to those who simply refuse to admit that there is a problem there.

But, can we at least wait until the MtGOX thief is caught, and the 600'000 stolen coins are returned to their rightful owners, before deciding who is trolling here?
legendary
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In the beginning, he displayed his credentials rather prominently in his posts. Using the scientific method, I can therefore prove that it is not certain that he learned about bitcoin first, the internet next.

Not true. I used my real name, but it took maybe a month or more before people here bothered to check who I was.

If so, I was wrong.
legendary
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Eadem mutata resurgo
Watch this space closely, there's some serious smoke emanating from the JPMorgan Chase data centers ... I've been following this for a while and piecing the bits together it looks like JPMorgan might be effectively pwnd, and perhaps a targeted attack by a geo-political enemy. Given JPMorgan is the commercial arm of the Federal Reserve acting in the markets (or vice versa) it's significant far beyond the headlines letting on

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-05/jpmorgan-had-exodus-of-tech-talent-before-hacker-breach.html

The breach went undetected until mid-August, months after hackers initially exploited a flaw in the company’s website to gain entry to internal systems,

‘what the hell is inside of us?’
legendary
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Come on BTC... by 2018 I want one of these badboys...  Grin

http://youtu.be/bpko3CPHonQ

http://youtu.be/ivB6VsjBpZU
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central banking = outdated protocol
For anyone that has not seen the video posted by Jorge, of Jorge playing with his balls please view here
http://youtu.be/rFEGFEGMDBc

 Grin



There is no evidence that Jorge was there or even has balls. I'm skeptical.
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The reason that I referred to Jorge's "professor" status in a snarky way is because it does (and should) NOT matter whether one is a professor or a snotty nosed 5 year old in order to post decent ideas in this forum.  ...

It should not matter, but it do.  This crowd lusts for authorities--I keep reading posts appealing to names I should know but have to Google, like "NeoBee can't be a scam U hater--Mr. Snuffleupagus called it an excellent investment!!1!"

I mean, Reptilia validates his confinement-worthy prognostications with "If I'm wrong, then how come I managed to buy the ruins of an abandoned mental hospital in the middle of nowhere a castle?  Hmm?"

So yeah...
legendary
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For anyone that has not seen the video posted by Jorge, of Jorge playing with his balls please view here
http://youtu.be/rFEGFEGMDBc

 Grin

legendary
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Jorge, in the top left of your screen, there is some data about how much time you've spent trolling these forums.

Would you mind sharing that with us?
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