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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 26448. (Read 26732140 times)

legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 1136
Only in a very very far away future (and maybe not even then), if and when crypto/BTC accounts for the entire global money supply. Let's not count on that, mkay?
Um, no.

Bitcoin either expands until it becomes the money, or else it goes to zero(1).

Anyone who is not interested in, and working toward, the former doesn't belong in Bitcoin.

This isn't a game.



(1)http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/the-problem-with-altcoins/

The truth is rarely this black and white. There's quite a big chance the truth will be between your 2 projected outcomes rather than one of them.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1199
Bitfinex increases allowable margin from 2.5 to 3.33 on Monday.  

That should decrease margin calls and may even spark a rally.

That's pretty awesome news.

if that will spark a rally we all gonna be very surprised and happy :-)

But even without a rally this is a good change.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1013
Only in a very very far away future (and maybe not even then), if and when crypto/BTC accounts for the entire global money supply. Let's not count on that, mkay?
Um, no.

Bitcoin either expands until it becomes the money, or else it goes to zero(1).

Anyone who is not interested in, and working toward, the former doesn't belong in Bitcoin.

This isn't a game.



(1)http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/the-problem-with-altcoins/
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1008
Delusional crypto obsessionist
But the majority reasoning is that "because it has happened before it will continue to happen" type of mentality is not good reasoning.

Albert Einstein disagrees:
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 1136
It's time to launch the rocket, guys! Look! We are building up our launchpad!

This time everything will be different (saying this since 1200, but hopefully nobody has taken notice.) C'mon guys, last chance for cheap coins!!! (as every day). Buy, buy, buy! (Sounds like promotion for a pyramid scheme but, yeah, you know...)

Boooom!


Please lockup the definition of a pyramid scheme so perhaps you look less foolish in the future.

Please read more carefully next time, so perhaps you look less foolish in the future.

Are you saying your post is not sarcastic? Weren't you the one who said the price was going to zero? If not, I must have mixed you up with someone else.

I'm a troll!! I say a lot of things. And of course I'm sarcastic. I would even be sarcastic here, if I were a bull.

But what I said here is, that the bullish emotional impulses, printed to letters are looking like pyramid scheme promotion!

Deny that the price will go down! Deny that I'm sexy and clever (heresy!)! But could you really deny that?!

The price can always go down at any level. The same is true for any stock or commodity though.

You haven't grasped it (maybe I did not explain good)

BUT IM A TROLL! I'm not here to explain and argue!

I'm here to:





You're here to post invalid images? Cheesy
hero member
Activity: 1526
Merit: 597
It's time to launch the rocket, guys! Look! We are building up our launchpad!

This time everything will be different (saying this since 1200, but hopefully nobody has taken notice.) C'mon guys, last chance for cheap coins!!! (as every day). Buy, buy, buy! (Sounds like promotion for a pyramid scheme but, yeah, you know...)

Boooom!


Please lockup the definition of a pyramid scheme so perhaps you look less foolish in the future.

Please read more carefully next time, so perhaps you look less foolish in the future.

Are you saying your post is not sarcastic? Weren't you the one who said the price was going to zero? If not, I must have mixed you up with someone else.

I'm a troll!! I say a lot of things. And of course I'm sarcastic. I would even be sarcastic here, if I were a bull.

But what I said here is, that the bullish emotional impulses, printed to letters are looking like pyramid scheme promotion!

Deny that the price will go down! Deny that I'm sexy and clever (heresy!)! But could you really deny that?!

The price can always go down at any level. The same is true for any stock or commodity though.

You haven't grasped it (maybe I did not explain good)

BUT IM A TROLL! I'm not here to explain and argue!

I'm here to:


legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 1136
Bitfinex increases allowable margin from 2.5 to 3.33 on Monday.  

That should decrease margin calls and may even spark a rally.
How do you do that? I only have 2.5:1 available ...   Huh

You wait for Monday Wink
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
Bitfinex increases allowable margin from 2.5 to 3.33 on Monday.  

That should decrease margin calls and may even spark a rally.
How do you do that? I only have 2.5:1 available ...   Huh
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 1136
It's time to launch the rocket, guys! Look! We are building up our launchpad!

This time everything will be different (saying this since 1200, but hopefully nobody has taken notice.) C'mon guys, last chance for cheap coins!!! (as every day). Buy, buy, buy! (Sounds like promotion for a pyramid scheme but, yeah, you know...)

Boooom!


Please lockup the definition of a pyramid scheme so perhaps you look less foolish in the future.

Please read more carefully next time, so perhaps you look less foolish in the future.

Are you saying your post is not sarcastic? Weren't you the one who said the price was going to zero? If not, I must have mixed you up with someone else.

I'm a troll!! I say a lot of things. And of course I'm sarcastic. I would even be sarcastic here, if I were a bull.

But what I said here is, that the bullish emotional impulses, printed to letters are looking like pyramid scheme promotion!

Deny that the price will go down! Deny that I'm sexy and clever (heresy!)! But could you really deny that?!

The price can always go down at any level. The same is true for any stock or commodity though.
legendary
Activity: 1159
Merit: 1001
Bitfinex increases allowable margin from 2.5 to 3.33 on Monday.  

That should decrease margin calls and may even spark a rally.
hero member
Activity: 1526
Merit: 597
It's time to launch the rocket, guys! Look! We are building up our launchpad!

This time everything will be different (saying this since 1200, but hopefully nobody has taken notice.) C'mon guys, last chance for cheap coins!!! (as every day). Buy, buy, buy! (Sounds like promotion for a pyramid scheme but, yeah, you know...)

Boooom!


Please lockup the definition of a pyramid scheme so perhaps you look less foolish in the future.

Please read more carefully next time, so perhaps you look less foolish in the future.

Are you saying your post is not sarcastic? Weren't you the one who said the price was going to zero? If not, I must have mixed you up with someone else.

I'm a troll!! I say a lot of things. And of course I'm sarcastic. I would even be sarcastic here, if I were a bull.

But what I said here is, that the bullish emotional impulses, printed to letters are looking like pyramid scheme promotion!

Deny that the price will go down! Deny that I'm sexy and clever (heresy!)! But could you really deny that?!
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Hey guys, was it etherum again who dumped these piles of coins?
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1007
Using it as store of value will decrease the T

Only in a very very far away future (and maybe not even then), if and when crypto/BTC accounts for the entire global money supply. Let's not count on that, mkay?

In the next years, we will see increasing T (my point being: btc rocks as a payment system), and maybe the occasional nutcase (i.e. us Cheesy) will throw in a few bucks using it as store of value. The latter doesn't decrease the former in that case.
legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1122
what does that mean  P= (M * V)/T assuming that the velocity will be much lower and transactions much higher then the price will:

a) stay somehow stable if transactions and adoption are almost equal.
b) rise slowly, with no bubbles whatsoever if the adoption is slightly more than the transactions.
c) can even drop a bit if adoption slow down and current holders start using it as a currency


which confirm the theory above "the use of bitcoin will increase 1000x, therefore the price will rise 1000x, I believe the first part, but I don't think the second part follows necessarily", dont you think ?
First of all, you're doing it wrong.

P is not the exchange rate of the currency - it's the price of good and services.

With M approximately constant, and with V approximately constant, increasing T means that the cost of good and services priced in Bitcoin will fall, a.k.a the purchasing power of a bitcoin has increased.

Velocity would also depend on the application:
Store of value would have a very small velocity.  My coins have essentially zero real velocity (moving between my wallets or to an exchange should not count).
Remittance companies could theoretically churn through the same coins over and over again, yielding a high velocity.
As a currency, I would expect velocity to be similar to any other currency.

I don't think we will have an answer until btc has much wider adoption.

Using it as store of value will decrease the T
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1000
It's time to launch the rocket, guys! Look! We are building up our launchpad!

This time everything will be different (saying this since 1200, but hopefully nobody has taken notice.) C'mon guys, last chance for cheap coins!!! (as every day). Buy, buy, buy! (Sounds like promotion for a pyramid scheme but, yeah, you know...)

Boooom!


Please lockup the definition of a pyramid scheme so perhaps you look less foolish in the future.

Please read more carefully next time, so perhaps you look less foolish in the future.

Are you saying your post is not sarcastic? Weren't you the one who said the price was going to zero? If not, I must have mixed you up with someone else.

Funny how these new troll accounts appear during periods of downward volatility.
legendary
Activity: 2380
Merit: 1823
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legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 1136
It's time to launch the rocket, guys! Look! We are building up our launchpad!

This time everything will be different (saying this since 1200, but hopefully nobody has taken notice.) C'mon guys, last chance for cheap coins!!! (as every day). Buy, buy, buy! (Sounds like promotion for a pyramid scheme but, yeah, you know...)

Boooom!


Please lockup the definition of a pyramid scheme so perhaps you look less foolish in the future.

Please read more carefully next time, so perhaps you look less foolish in the future.

Are you saying your post is not sarcastic? Weren't you the one who said the price was going to zero? If not, I must have mixed you up with someone else.
hero member
Activity: 1526
Merit: 597
It's time to launch the rocket, guys! Look! We are building up our launchpad!

This time everything will be different (saying this since 1200, but hopefully nobody has taken notice.) C'mon guys, last chance for cheap coins!!! (as every day). Buy, buy, buy! (Sounds like promotion for a pyramid scheme but, yeah, you know...)

Boooom!


Please lockup the definition of a pyramid scheme so perhaps you look less foolish in the future.

Please read more carefully next time, so perhaps you look less foolish in the future.
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
what does that mean  P= (M * V)/T assuming that the velocity will be much lower and transactions much higher then the price will:

a) stay somehow stable if transactions and adoption are almost equal.
b) rise slowly, with no bubbles whatsoever if the adoption is slightly more than the transactions.
c) can even drop a bit if adoption slow down and current holders start using it as a currency


which confirm the theory above "the use of bitcoin will increase 1000x, therefore the price will rise 1000x, I believe the first part, but I don't think the second part follows necessarily", dont you think ?
First of all, you're doing it wrong.

P is not the exchange rate of the currency - it's the price of good and services.

With M approximately constant, and with V approximately constant, increasing T means that the cost of good and services priced in Bitcoin will fall, a.k.a the purchasing power of a bitcoin has increased.

Velocity would also depend on the application:
Store of value would have a very small velocity.  My coins have essentially zero real velocity (moving between my wallets or to an exchange should not count).
Remittance companies could theoretically churn through the same coins over and over again, yielding a high velocity.
As a currency, I would expect velocity to be similar to any other currency.

I don't think we will have an answer until btc has much wider adoption.
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 1136
Its like LTC is a leading indicator, these days.  Undecided

No it's not, LTC follows (and one day it will probably stop following even). Anything else is purely coincidental.
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