Whatever will happen it is interesting to note that shorts at Bitfinex are increasing a lot again:
http://www.bfxdata.com/combined/btc.php
http://www.bfxdata.com/combined/btc.php
we should squeeze them
Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 26452. (Read 26732198 times)
August 17, 2014, 09:20:02 AM
we should squeeze them
August 17, 2014, 09:18:57 AM
"Strong minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, weak minds discuss people."
Let's stop discussing people..
Let's stop discussing people..
And that is one way that I choose to ignore posters. One guy in particular starts nearly every post with a one sentence personal insult, followed by a paragraph which ends with a personal insult. Amazingly, despite not adding anything substantive (plenty of regurgitation), he manages to not be ignored by most of you.
Looking at his post history, that post pattern seems to be 95% of all of his posts.
August 17, 2014, 09:16:22 AM
Looks like you want to say: CCMF!!!!
Of course!!! We bounced above 500 again! If that's not bullish??!!
It's time to celebrate: CCMF!!
August 17, 2014, 09:13:22 AM
Looks like you want to say: CCMF!!!! Here: Let me help you: CCMF!!!!
August 17, 2014, 09:06:39 AM
Damn it was already >$520 and so many people told "We will never see <$500 again"....
and what now?
Damn with those dumpers and bears..
Usually you shouldn't listen to people that tell you "We will never see < or > $XXX again"....and what now?
Damn with those dumpers and bears..
Ummm... didn't YOU just say that yesterday was the bottom?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/and-after-this-profitable-sell-off-741715
I said "We might be at the bottom for now, so it might be a good idea to close shorts/thinking of rebuying back, as always, be careful", based on my observations. I said that at that time it would be improbable to go way lower than what we already saw.
Are what I said and a statement like "BUY!!! we will never see under XXX again!!!" the same to you?
And dude, I said that it could be that the bottom was already in, not that yesterday's price was the bottom, i posted pictures to show it.
August 17, 2014, 09:04:34 AM
August 17, 2014, 08:59:33 AM
August 17, 2014, 08:58:12 AM
Damn it was already >$520 and so many people told "We will never see <$500 again"....
and what now?
Damn with those dumpers and bears..
Usually you shouldn't listen to people that tell you "We will never see < or > $XXX again"....and what now?
Damn with those dumpers and bears..
Indeed. Never is a long time.
Oh by the way, I got the Coinbase brush off this morning...the message about exceeding limits. But I just now bought 0.2 BTC with no problem. Not sure if it means they resolved the issue or if the buy was just so small.
I think that the issue with Coinbase is very close to what I already described in my various circuitous posts, and in essence what I was attempting to say that if you keep clicking on refresh for buying on Coinbase, then sooner or later, the cite will come back and have coins available.
In this instance, it took more than 5 hours for BTC to be available, I believe.. B/c my coinbase account gave me access to coins about an hour ago...
In that regard, I was trying to buy 1BTC.. at the time that the price was going lower, but the price kept going back up.. so I just said fuck-it and bought my 1BTC. I know that probably the price will go down, after i bought. Fuck my luck.
Regarding quantity and availability of coins on coinbase, I think that once the daily quantity clears from their system, then you can buy up to $50K per day, or something like that (it is just is NOT instant buy).
Well, anyhow, I suspect that the problem of the coin shortage on coinbase will be solved for several hours, unless the BTC prices stay low and people continue to buy coins, then they may run out of coins, again... .. so buy now, while supplies last...
August 17, 2014, 08:55:12 AM
Damn it was already >$520 and so many people told "We will never see <$500 again"....
and what now?
Damn with those dumpers and bears..
Usually you shouldn't listen to people that tell you "We will never see < or > $XXX again"....and what now?
Damn with those dumpers and bears..
Ummm... didn't YOU just say that yesterday was the bottom?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/and-after-this-profitable-sell-off-741715
August 17, 2014, 08:49:30 AM
....I am sure that people don't understand each-other because of this problem add to that we are not all native English speakers.
August 17, 2014, 08:45:29 AM
but at least he (Fonzie) claims to be making various investments in BTC.... and you?
You mean, help pay for Winklevum and Winklevee's new Ferrari? Sorry, I am not smart enough for that.
Jorge, your posts are high quality and usually accurate, in fact it is I consider you one of the most close to reality poster (oda.krell is also a good poster) , you know people hate the truth or what goes against their will/wish, don't bother so much with them and please keep your posts coming, I really enjoy reading them.
The point is: what is he doing here? He is dogmatic, closed of, prejudiced, not open to arguments, repetitive and on top of that fucking smug. I'm quite surprised anyone ever enjoys his presence in any setting. I also think it's very sad he's an academic since all those qualities above need to be the inverse for him to be able to make a meaningful contribution to science of any sort whatsoever.
well, we don't drink from the same bottle do we ? I really think he has some real good inputs, it is your problem if you think they don't fit your agenda or what you wish to hear, I tend to be objective and try to reasonably hear both sides... I agree that sometimes we cross some lines which is normal (especially in this thread) but this shouldn't disappoint you all at once.
It's not that he doesn't agree with me. It's that he doesn't seem to understand and respond to counter arguments and merely repeats his statements in different wording. It seems he's unable to participate in any intelligent argument.
well, I don't know, I really didn't come across this, I will pay more attention... but I still think he has some real good inputs... maybe I am more compatible with him than you with him ? I did notice that how people personally engage into a matter is really important in terms of how the audience usually receive it, for example, I cant stand Risto, and this is mostly because of the way he engages his audience, see this doesn't mean that everyone hates him, I did notice that he has some audience that goes all the way to defend him which is strange for me but understandable for them... maybe this is the problem with Jorge and many others here ?
also, maybe because we don't engage in person (face to face)there is many hidden expressions that could change the way a statement is received... for example: me telling you "oh screw you..." in person how you receive it would depend on the way I said it, if I say it with an angry face and hand waving you may get insulted and offensive but if I said it with a big smile/laugh you would receive it as a joke or a meaningless act.... but in the forums it is all different, I am sure that people don't understand each-other because of this problem add to that we are not all native English speakers.
Good points
I also don't like a lot of mannerisms of Risto (mainly the ones that can be construed as bragging and showing off). Reading through his history it's quite obvious they originate from him living through many years relatively poorly.
Ignoring the way of communicating he has many good points and is actually constructive rather than destructive. He seeks to take action and change things. This is for me more than enough to ignore the slightly smug image you get from him when you read posts in which he's clearly showing off
I don't have the same with Jorge. He seems to merely focus on putting something down, while using flawed arguments for doing so. When someone points out these flaws he ignores them rather than engaging or he used fallacies which is even worse. If it is something I have a problem with in his character it's clearly his inability to reason properly. That plus the fact he's an academic (me too) and I believe he ruins the image of academics for the rest of us in this forum.
August 17, 2014, 08:44:31 AM
Whatever will happen it is interesting to note that shorts at Bitfinex are increasing a lot again:
http://www.bfxdata.com/combined/btc.php
http://www.bfxdata.com/combined/btc.php
August 17, 2014, 08:43:22 AM
Whatever will happen it is interesting to note that shorts at Bitfinex are increasing a lot again:
http://www.bfxdata.com/combined/btc.php
http://www.bfxdata.com/combined/btc.php
August 17, 2014, 08:42:54 AM
Whoa, Coinbase is sold out..
That's bullish right ?!?!?
Quote
"Note! We've exceeded our normal buy limits for today. If you would still like to purchase you will receive the market price of bitcoin on Friday Aug 22, 2014 at 01:49AM EDT after your funds have arrived. read more
Due to higher than normal buy volumes, we are unable to provide exact price quotes right now.
Instead of pausing buys entirely, we decided to give people the option to purchase bitcoin at the market price in a few days. Once your USD funds arrive, we will exchange them to bitcoin at the market price at approximately Friday Aug 22, 2014 at 01:40AM EDT."
Due to higher than normal buy volumes, we are unable to provide exact price quotes right now.
Instead of pausing buys entirely, we decided to give people the option to purchase bitcoin at the market price in a few days. Once your USD funds arrive, we will exchange them to bitcoin at the market price at approximately Friday Aug 22, 2014 at 01:40AM EDT."
That's bullish right ?!?!?
Here Coinbase explains this on their support pages:
http://support.coinbase.com/customer/portal/articles/1148738-what-price-will-i-receive-when-i-buy-or-sell-bitcoin-
http://support.coinbase.com/customer/portal/articles/1148739-what-price-will-i-receive-if-i-purchase-once-coinbase-reaches-its-daily-limit-
Extremely, extremely, extremely run for the hills type of bearish news. First, there were a lot of buys because there was a lot of volume and volatility... there was action on both sides of the tape and with Coinbase as a middleman that leaves them dry (and anyways, that is historic, now... it's already priced in). Second, it means NOBODY will be buying from Coinbase all week -- a major purveyor of coins to the Average Joe. Why? Well, because the market is extremely volatile right now and you don't know where the hell the price will be (but assuming even in a worst case scenario there is a recovery by then that price would be HIGHER than it is today... you wouldn't do it).
It's God awful news. I don't know how the hell anybody could read it as positive news. I am certain I am being a bit hyperbolic, but yea... not good.
YES>>>>>> you are being hyperbolic, and you seem to be spreading FUD... maybe you are NOT doing this on purpose, but you are making much more out of the situation than the FACTS support.
The news is bullish.. b/c it means that a lot of Coinbase customers are buying and have bought more coins than Coinbase had prepared for sale.
The news is problematic, b/c we do NOT know how long Coinbase is going to remain without coins for sale.. Your stating an assumption that they are NOT going to have coins for four days b/c that is what the message states for the guarantee of coins being available is also misplaced.. b/c nothing in that message should cause you to assume that Coinbase will NOT have coins until the stated dates.... additionally, I have experienced that they usually get coins much more quickly.. probably even in less than a day.. but we may have to wait until Monday... possibly.
So the news would be problematic if we have to wait until Monday or even later for BTC to be available through coinbase.
Again, don't accuse me of s---. I would note preface my words with "I am probably being hyperbolic" if I was trying to spread nonsense. Also, my name is Newbie, bro. Emphasis on new. Cheers!
You seem to be more sophisticated at trading than me, so Newbie is your name, but so what?
I already know that some people use the forum to get ideas, and some people use the forum to spread FUD, and we do NOT always know for sure what are the motives of others... again, whether you were purposeful, you are claiming that you were NOT.. .which hopefully is true, but I have my doubts, since you are attempting to claim that your conclusion was an innocent mistake .. or even implying that you may be correct about the disinformation that you are seeming to attempt to spread.
I am just a guy who had a different take on a story. Attack the view, not me... that's all I am saying. If I am wrong then counter it. Honestly though, neither of us is wrong. It has mixed bullish and bearish elements (or so I understand).
I rarely attack posters who seem to be genuine.. but if I get the sense that you are NOT being genuine then I may have a go at you, here and there.. just for shits and giggles. So, here, I have mixed thoughts on whether you were purposefully spreading misinformation. I do NOT necessarily battle you on that point, so maybe I can kind-of give you the benefit of the doubt.. at least for now... whether you give a shit or NOT, that is o.k.... b/c each of us is going to post what s/he is gonna post... and you certainly seem to have your various reasonable moments - relatively speaking... (in that regard, some of your competition can be lacking in various regards.. to say the least)....
Word. Just a misunderstanding. Happy hunting, friend.
August 17, 2014, 08:40:04 AM
"Strong minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, weak minds discuss people."
Let's stop discussing people..
Let's stop discussing people..
August 17, 2014, 08:38:44 AM
Damn it was already >$520 and so many people told "We will never see <$500 again"....
and what now?
Damn with those dumpers and bears..
Usually you shouldn't listen to people that tell you "We will never see < or > $XXX again"....and what now?
Damn with those dumpers and bears..
Indeed. Never is a long time.
Oh by the way, I got the Coinbase brush off this morning...the message about exceeding limits. But I just now bought 0.2 BTC with no problem. Not sure if it means they resolved the issue or if the buy was just so small.
August 17, 2014, 08:38:15 AM
but at least he (Fonzie) claims to be making various investments in BTC.... and you?
You mean, help pay for Winklevum and Winklevee's new Ferrari? Sorry, I am not smart enough for that.
Jorge, your posts are high quality and usually accurate, in fact it is I consider you one of the most close to reality poster (oda.krell is also a good poster) , you know people hate the truth or what goes against their will/wish, don't bother so much with them and please keep your posts coming, I really enjoy reading them.
The point is: what is he doing here? He is dogmatic, closed of, prejudiced, not open to arguments, repetitive and on top of that fucking smug. I'm quite surprised anyone ever enjoys his presence in any setting. I also think it's very sad he's an academic since all those qualities above need to be the inverse for him to be able to make a meaningful contribution to science of any sort whatsoever.
well, we don't drink from the same bottle do we ? I really think he has some real good inputs, it is your problem if you think they don't fit your agenda or what you wish to hear, I tend to be objective and try to reasonably hear both sides... I agree that sometimes we cross some lines which is normal (especially in this thread) but this shouldn't disappoint you all at once.
It's not that he doesn't agree with me. It's that he doesn't seem to understand and respond to counter arguments and merely repeats his statements in different wording. It seems he's unable to participate in any intelligent argument.
well, I don't know, I really didn't come across this, I will pay more attention... but I still think he has some real good inputs... maybe I am more compatible with him than you with him ? I did notice that how people personally engage into a matter is really important in terms of how the audience usually receive it, for example, I cant stand Risto, and this is mostly because of the way he engages his audience, see this doesn't mean that everyone hates him, I did notice that he has some audience that goes all the way to defend him which is strange for me but understandable for them... maybe this is the problem with Jorge and many others here ?
also, maybe because we don't engage in person (face to face)there is many hidden expressions that could change the way a statement is received... for example: me telling you "oh screw you..." in person how you receive it would depend on the way I said it, if I say it with an angry face and hand waving you may get insulted and offensive but if I said it with a big smile/laugh you would receive it as a joke or a meaningless act.... but in the forums it is all different, I am sure that people don't understand each-other because of this problem add to that we are not all native English speakers.
August 17, 2014, 08:35:59 AM
Damn it was already >$520 and so many people told "We will never see <$500 again"....
and what now?
Damn with those dumpers and bears..
Usually you shouldn't listen to people that tell you "We will never see < or > $XXX again"....and what now?
Damn with those dumpers and bears..
August 17, 2014, 08:31:41 AM
Damn it was already >$520 and so many people told "We will never see <$500 again"....
and what now?
Damn with those dumpers and bears..
and what now?
Damn with those dumpers and bears..
August 17, 2014, 08:27:23 AM
but at least he (Fonzie) claims to be making various investments in BTC.... and you?
You mean, help pay for Winklevum and Winklevee's new Ferrari? Sorry, I am not smart enough for that.
I really don't think they need your help. Actually I think that goes for your participation here as well.
Heehehehehehe... That is what I meant to say, if I could ONLY be so elegant.
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