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Man I was out a couple of days.. what happened?

Did Loozik make another spot on prediction?
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Born to chew bubble gum and kick ass
Man, nobody is angry at you.

In fact that last post of yours about whales and daddys was so fun that we thought that you could only have written it while trippin hard Wink

Was indeed one of the funniest thing I've read in here today Cheesy

At least someone views my post in the only correct spotlight, namely as fun  Cheesy
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Guys, come on.

Which of you is Miss Whale I played the innocent prank on yesterday?

You DID NOT lose that much money to write such bad things about me.

No need to be too angry with me. I am a nice guy after all  Cheesy

I already said I wouldn't be posting more calls.

Let's be friends. PM me or something.

Man, nobody is angry at you.

In fact that last post of yours about whales and daddys was so fun that we thought that you could only have written it while trippin hard Wink

Was indeed one of the funniest thing I've read in here today Cheesy

His posts are one of the few reasons I visit this thread a lot more recently,he presents an original viewpoint which is exactly what I wanted to see in this pool of boring TA and bear circle-jerk.
+1 from a lurker
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I really would like to know how the hell did you know 93 was the bottom in this bounce, but probably you won't tell me never  Wink

It's easy, you only need to know where Mrs Market's clitoris is going to be and when.
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Guys, come on.

Which of you is Miss Whale I played the innocent prank on yesterday?

You DID NOT lose that much money to write such bad things about me.

No need to be too angry with me. I am a nice guy after all  Cheesy

I already said I wouldn't be posting more calls.

Let's be friends. PM me or something.

Man, nobody is angry at you.

In fact that last post of yours about whales and daddys was so fun that we thought that you could only have written it while trippin hard Wink

Was indeed one of the funniest thing I've read in here today Cheesy
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You're not as important as you think.

Of course I am not. I am just the entertainer. I play a joke or two on a whale from time to time.
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I was wondering from where this "whales are stupid" attitude originates? I somehow doubt "they don't have any knowledge nor care that much, because they have tons of money" for the plain simple reason, that they have so much money. I think I'll take some time soon and replay the market to see, if they usually have a correct feeling for the direction or not.

The stuff I read elsewhere was often something like "try to follow the big money".


Edit: Loozik -> https://www.google.com/search?q=420 Wink

Dex, if you have lots of money you do what whales do. It is relatively easy and guarantees stable profits.

If you do not have lots of money, you do not follow plankton and you do not follow whales. You find your own edge: you explore the inefficiencies of both plankton (emotions, bookish TA) and whales (slowliness and mistakes)
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no one has yet said that (apart  himself ):

nice call loozik.

I really would like to know how the hell did you know 93 was the bottom in this bounce, but probably you won't tell me never  Wink
legendary
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Let's be friends. PM me or something.

You're not as important as you think.  You are just another noisemaker.... just what these forums need Roll Eyes
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Guys, come on.

Which of you is Miss Whale I played the innocent prank on yesterday?

You DID NOT lose that much money to write such bad things about me.

No need to be too angry with me. I am a nice guy after all  Cheesy

I already said I wouldn't be posting more calls.

Let's be friends. PM me or something.
legendary
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I was wondering from where this "whales are stupid" attitude originates? I somehow doubt "they don't have any knowledge nor care that much, because they have tons of money" for the plain simple reason, that they have so much money. I think I'll take some time soon and replay the market to see, if they usually have a correct feeling for the direction or not.

The stuff I read elsewhere was often something like "try to follow the big money".


Edit: Loozik -> https://www.google.com/search?q=420 Wink
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legendary
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legendary
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For me too, thanks.

Please explain. Truth hurts or what? I am puzzled  Smiley

I think he's asking for drugs.
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For me too, thanks.

Please explain. Truth hurts or what? I am puzzled  Smiley
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In general, people assume it's more than one person doing the manipulation, that's why I addressed it as a conspiracy. Although there's always the rich lone gunman trope that's not too far off.

Anyways, there's always walls, and many whales are not so bright. Some think they can manipulate the market, but chances are, people will try calling what they think is a bluff. Then there's the genuine whales who places large bid/ask walls in hope that they actually gets quickly filled, for better or for worse, which I think is likely the case here. But some people might think it's a bluff and sell into it.

As for whales with large orders, they think the market will go in a direction, and they want to cause a chain reaction by shifting their weight around. They aren't out to push the market up just a little then sell, they're in it for the more mid-term/long-term, unless they start to panic.

Most whales only place small orders, unless something big is happening.

Whales can't push the price where it doesn't want to go. Whales can't change the overall trend, unless they had millions, and timed everything perfectly, to include the correct wave counts, etc. This would likely be a great loss to them. It's better for them to go with the trend.

Some things are correct, some are not.

There are 3 group of traders (in general):
- plankton traders, who are 100% on the market and are 10% correct
- whale traders, who are (depending on the group) 80 - 100% on the market (they need holidays from time to time) and are 80 correct%
- daddys, who are 1 - 10% on the market and are 90 -99% correct

Whales screw plankton. Whales have knowledge of planktology and apply this knowledge with a use of various tools and actions, e.g. they scare them with walls, they have shills spreading news like ''I see a head and shoulders'', I see a double top'', and what not. Some of these shills even accept donations.

Daddys screw whales (and indirectly plankton; you know whales need to cover losses they suffer from daddys and screw plankton even more). Daddys have knowledge of whaleology.


LOL, you should pass some of that shit you are smoking Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

+420

For me too, thanks.
legendary
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1000 bid order is popping up desperately trying to push it up over 100.

It just doesn't stop. At face value they want it up over 100, or someone is just playing games...

It's not some conspiracy, I'm sick and tired of newbs thinking the market is heavily manipulated because it doesn't go where they themselves baselessly predicted.

Man, that isn't so nice to say. Not nice to try to group people by using words like conspiracy either - I don't see the connection.
Who said anything about a conspiracy? (which means 2 or more individuals working together - that was not implied). Conspiracy and other name-calling (e.g. tin foil wearing) unfortunately, has become a word to discredit future digging.

The larger point is the point made, which you skipped over and grouped as conspiracy, not to mention name called.

The poster brought up someone flashing a 1000 BTC buy, why not address what that could mean?


In general, people assume it's more than one person doing the manipulation, that's why I addressed it as a conspiracy. Although there's always the rich lone gunman trope that's not too far off.

Anyways, there's always walls, and many whales are not so bright. Some think they can manipulate the market, but chances are, people will try calling what they think is a bluff. Then there's the genuine whales who places large bid/ask walls in hope that they actually gets quickly filled, for better or for worse, which I think is likely the case here. But some people might think it's a bluff and sell into it.

As for whales with large orders, they think the market will go in a direction, and they want to cause a chain reaction by shifting their weight around. They aren't out to push the market up just a little then sell, they're in it for the more mid-term/long-term, unless they start to panic.

Most whales only place small orders, unless something big is happening.

Whales can't change the overall trend, unless they had millions, and timed everything perfectly, to include the correct wave counts, etc. This would likely be a great loss to them. It's better for them to go with the trend, and where the market is willing to go.

Now why didn't you just say that to begin with? I enjoy learning and appreciate your reply.
I've observed that emotion is more concerned with being right, but when you can use Grammar, Logic and Rhettoric (and maybe throw in some emotion - I'm not against it), well then you got a Triviumatic way of understanding...

So, do you see these whales as being "successful" and if so, to what end? (e.g. - a mid term move here would be quite substantial, depending on what mid term means to you. And the correction, even more so.)
Myself, I saw todays move as not really successful, at least not compared to the last big rise in price (but they had technical indicators on their side and now that isn't exactly there and I wonder about the lack of buying after "their" large buys today.)






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