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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 32446. (Read 26608391 times)

legendary
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OMG look at the wall at Stamps

and here i am buying alts...

What do you mean? That there are no walls there? Now that $150 is gone its no depth rise.

I LOL at the dummies who buy after $144 and $150 fall. Herpaderp, lets pay $5 more than we would have if we bought in to that obviously falling wall..
sr. member
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Bitstamp surging to meet Gox's movements.

legendary
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OMG look at the wall at Stamps

and here i am buying alts...
stamp just said Boom  Smiley
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One thing I've noticed that's slightly interesting is that the dollar spread between Gox and Bitstamp has remained relatively constant while the price has increased, actually decreasing the percentage spread. Not sure if this is just a market inefficiency, or it actually implies more arb is going on.
legendary
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OMG look at the wall at Stamps

and here i am buying alts...
legendary
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As evil as high inflation is, it is not an unexpected event given past history in any fiat currency that has a history.  But a tax on assets breaks the whole concept of private property.

I haven't read the report yet (I plan to) but from the quotes it seems like the report is entirely forgetting the most important thing which is that the feedback loop that rewards success and punishes failure must be preserved.

This was my issue with Cyprus bank bail-ins vs. bankruptcy.  It is not sufficiently disruptive to cause people (or their intellectual successors -- in other words a whole culture) to be fired.  Let's compare the Cyprus disaster with Detroit bankruptcy.  In Detroit we have:

www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57606936/kwame-kilpatrick-former-detroit-mayor-sentenced-to-28-years-in-prison-for-corruption/

"...the sweeping federal probe that has led to the convictions of more than 30 people."

A government "default" (or perhaps better stated as "repealing unfunded entitlement promises") and/or high inflation (which points directly at the government) will cause a shift to fiscal responsibility, if anything will.  I think we as a society need to learn an important lesson which is essentially that NO promise or fund is safe from subsequent politicians if there is any legal way it can be accessed.  Programs like social security, teacher's retirement funds, etc need to be legally and administratively separate (and even that may not be enough, but at least it is worth a try).  And all Ponzi systems -- that is, any unfunded promise that expects to be funded by future labor or taxes -- should be not legally binding.

legendary
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legendary
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We're one whale buy away from breaking the post crash $166.xx high.

When that happens I suspect there will be a frenzy.
legendary
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They're basically saying the bail-in has to be a surprise in order for it to work properly. That means we shouldn't necessarily look to news developments for early warning. There's no one who can now think "it can't happen here" or "I'd know if it were about to happen" or "other less stable countries would do it first, giving early warning." No, this indicates it will probably happen all at once, in many countries or every country in a certain region on the same day. It could happen tomorrow afternoon. Are you ready? Or are you content to be a sheep getting shorn?

10% of your net worth gone *poof* just like that. Wait until the wealthy get wind of this.

This is a message that could ignite the real fire under the bitcoin price. There is simply no other suitable protection.

It's worse than just monitoring developments for early warnings. The "right" investors were given direct warnings in order to allow them to get their money out in a timely manner. The vileness of taking peoples' money in this manner aside, that is corruption of the first order.

The signs are here, now.

Mind you, it's not like they aren't stealing wealth via inflation anyway. Cash is, most definitely, not king.
legendary
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Also, given the current administration's proclivities... this all probably has more to do with preventing medical tourism (under the auspices of AML) than anything to do with Bitcoin.  Wink

+1 interesting.
legendary
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It would be good to have one website, maybe in the Bitcoin wiki to have all the international wire-transfer fees summed up by country and by bank, compared to Bitcoin.

Could someone create such a page?

Well volunteered.
legendary
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Because of the so-called "no-bill bill" passed in 1998, US dollar notes may not be exported from the US. I think they were classified as ammunition or something to that effect. For that reason, to transfer USD internationally across US borders without having to struggle with the legal implications of smuggling war material, a bank has to convert the money into quarters before shipping overseas.


Unless you're the US government where you just put a cool billion on a palette, stick it in a warehouse and it "mysteriously" disappears.
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legendary
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This part of the IMF document was striking:



They're basically saying the bail-in has to be a surprise in order for it to work properly. That means we shouldn't necessarily look to news developments for early warning. There's no one who can now think "it can't happen here" or "I'd know if it were about to happen" or "other less stable countries would do it first, giving early warning." No, this indicates it will probably happen all at once, in many countries or every country in a certain region on the same day. It could happen tomorrow afternoon. Are you ready? Or are you content to be a sheep getting shorn?

10% of your net worth gone *poof* just like that. Wait until the wealthy get wind of this.

This is a message that could ignite the real fire under the bitcoin price. There is simply no other suitable protection.
sr. member
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Looks like we hit $165 ~an hour ago. Probably the same whale that did the sell two days ago to try to cause a panic sell.

legendary
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30d high and the day has just begun. Nice !

Less than 4000 BTC to go above the $166 high since the April crash.
legendary
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hero member
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30d high and the day has just begun. Nice !
legendary
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legendary
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This is getting blown way out of proportion.

A news item get blown out of proportion?! On THIS forum of all places?! I never thought I'd live to see the day...

Yes but at the same time, a high constant fee is a good way to lock "most" people out but keep it legal for you and your pals (provided you are rich or funded by the rich). 

For example, from reading these forums I learned the term "dollar denominated account" a few months ago.  So I googled around found just one bank (UBS) that offered foreign currency denominated accounts.  I thought it might be a good idea to diversify a bit into euros, yuan, etc.  Called them up -- not going to happen unless I was going to deposit > 1 million USD.  Too much overhead and paperwork...

Ironically, there's a trick that lets you do it in a small way with the company we love-to-hate: Paypal.  If someone sends you money you can choose to hold it in the currency it was sent...

Schwab, Fidelity, and HSBC are a few examples of banks that offer multi-denominated accounts in the USA.

All require no minimum or a small minimum (I think HSBC is $5000, fidelity and schwab are $0 minimum).

Also, given the current administration's proclivities... this all probably has more to do with preventing medical tourism (under the auspices of AML) than anything to do with Bitcoin.  Wink
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