Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 32591. (Read 26710124 times)
September 19, 2013, 11:29:46 AM
I spy some mighty sells. Looks like we crashin today.
September 19, 2013, 10:40:02 AM
Does anybody know why the volume on btcchina is so low the last days?
DDoS
Never had a problem reaching the site.
September 19, 2013, 10:16:07 AM
What we need is for a half dozen exchanges to pop up, driven firstly by customer demand and I think that a shared p2p online order book protocol is the way to go.
ripple?
Which is going open source this month, with rumors of ZipZap integrating too. If that's true...that's huge!
September 19, 2013, 10:01:28 AM
What we need is for a half dozen exchanges to pop up, driven firstly by customer demand and I think that a shared p2p online order book protocol is the way to go.
ripple?
September 19, 2013, 09:46:02 AM
SR has one problem right now: It's not really possible to order anonymously when all exchanges require verification, tricks like mixing and choosing the transaction output address don't really help. (Courts can get a warrant for transaction data off the exchanges)
The only real solution is zerocoin which, quite frankly would be better off being implemented in an altcoin.
I don't expect SR to go under because of this, the money flow just has to come from OTC and similar mechanisms.
The only real solution is zerocoin which, quite frankly would be better off being implemented in an altcoin.
I don't expect SR to go under because of this, the money flow just has to come from OTC and similar mechanisms.
Seems NSA is watching bitcoin transaction already.
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... Monitoring SWIFT
The classified documents show that the intelligence agency has several means of accessing the internal data traffic of the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (SWIFT), a cooperative used by more than 8,000 banks worldwide for their international transactions. The NSA specifically targets other institutes on an individual basis. Furthermore, the agency apparently has in-depth knowledge of the internal processes of credit card companies like Visa and MasterCard. What's more, even new, alternative currencies, as well as presumably anonymous means of payment like the Internet currency Bitcoin, rank among the targets of the American spies....
from http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/how-the-nsa-spies-on-international-bank-transactions-a-922430.html The classified documents show that the intelligence agency has several means of accessing the internal data traffic of the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (SWIFT), a cooperative used by more than 8,000 banks worldwide for their international transactions. The NSA specifically targets other institutes on an individual basis. Furthermore, the agency apparently has in-depth knowledge of the internal processes of credit card companies like Visa and MasterCard. What's more, even new, alternative currencies, as well as presumably anonymous means of payment like the Internet currency Bitcoin, rank among the targets of the American spies....
September 19, 2013, 07:53:20 AM
Does anybody know why the volume on btcchina is so low the last days?
DDoS
September 19, 2013, 07:28:30 AM
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September 19, 2013, 07:25:58 AM
Does anybody know why the volume on btcchina is so low the last days?
September 19, 2013, 07:07:03 AM
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EM, what do you honestly expect to happen with bitcoin in the next 3-5 years?
Mtgox and/or Bitpay might be gone, SR still kickin but lots of competition from alts and technical problems.
I expect the Bitcoin community to be composed of Internet Libertarians for the entirety of the Project. It will be all about "spreading the word" still.
sr is here to stay unless dpr gets nabbed, but another would pop up in 48 hours
mtgox is already a zombie exchange
bitpay will either remain or get bought out by bigger players
SR has one problem right now: It's not really possible to order anonymously when all exchanges require verification, tricks like mixing and choosing the transaction output address don't really help. (Courts can get a warrant for transaction data off the exchanges)
The only real solution is zerocoin which, quite frankly would be better off being implemented in an altcoin.
I don't expect SR to go under because of this, the money flow just has to come from OTC and similar mechanisms.
Yeah, gox is pretty much undead. This could go on for a long time still...
I don't think that bitpay will stand up to scrutiny. They have been messing around on the exchanges (according to their own admission) with their clients and VC money. When the shit hits the fan on Gox there will be a lot of long faces there once they realize how much of their money was in gox accounts.
September 19, 2013, 06:18:48 AM
Not
so
much
...
so
much
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EM, what do you honestly expect to happen with bitcoin in the next 3-5 years?
Mtgox and/or Bitpay might be gone, SR still kickin but lots of competition from alts and technical problems.
I expect the Bitcoin community to be composed of Internet Libertarians for the entirety of the Project. It will be all about "spreading the word" still.
sr is here to stay unless dpr gets nabbed, but another would pop up in 48 hours
mtgox is already a zombie exchange
bitpay will either remain or get bought out by bigger players
SR has one problem right now: It's not really possible to order anonymously when all exchanges require verification, tricks like mixing and choosing the transaction output address don't really help. (Courts can get a warrant for transaction data off the exchanges)
The only real solution is zerocoin which, quite frankly would be better off being implemented in an altcoin.
I don't expect SR to go under because of this, the money flow just has to come from OTC and similar mechanisms.
Yeah, gox is pretty much undead. This could go on for a long time still...
I don't think that bitpay will stand up to scrutiny. They have been messing around on the exchanges (according to their own admission) with their clients and VC money. When the shit hits the fan on Gox there will be a lot of long faces there once they realize how much of their money was in gox accounts.
September 19, 2013, 05:58:46 AM
I think Gox will survive this - but they have definitely lost their front-runner status which is not necessarily a bad thing.
Its undeniably awful for them!
They should be ashamed. Such an easy position to hold but incredible levels of incompetence destroyed them.
Late last year when I first learned about MtGox I quickly assumed that they would be the next Google or Facebook, a mega-company to ride the Bitcoin revolution. They are sure crashing and burning instead. Very sad, but largely due to their own incompetence (failed merger, regulatory failures).
It's interesting that a lot of these sort of tech front runners fall on their face as the market develops.
I think they get complacent and stop innovating...next thing you know the next in line challenges the throne and takes over.
Myspace -> facebook
yahoo -> google
Commodore -> Apple
Atari -> Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft
Ok many of these are debatable....that's not my point.
We shouldn't be happy that Mt Gox is "dead"....having more than one exchange is a good thing.
We need options.
What we need is for a half dozen exchanges to pop up, driven firstly by customer demand and I think that a shared p2p online order book protocol is the way to go.
September 19, 2013, 05:56:16 AM
Not
so
much
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so
much
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EM, what do you honestly expect to happen with bitcoin in the next 3-5 years?
Mtgox and/or Bitpay might be gone, SR still kickin but lots of competition from alts and technical problems.
I expect the Bitcoin community to be composed of Internet Libertarians for the entirety of the Project. It will be all about "spreading the word" still.
sr is here to stay unless dpr gets nabbed, but another would pop up in 48 hours
mtgox is already a zombie exchange
bitpay will either remain or get bought out by bigger players
Just as my yubikey arrives
September 19, 2013, 05:55:24 AM
Not
so
much
...
so
much
...
EM, what do you honestly expect to happen with bitcoin in the next 3-5 years?
Mtgox and/or Bitpay might be gone, SR still kickin but lots of competition from alts and technical problems.
I expect the Bitcoin community to be composed of Internet Libertarians for the entirety of the Project. It will be all about "spreading the word" still.
sr is here to stay unless dpr gets nabbed, but another would pop up in 48 hours
mtgox is already a zombie exchange
bitpay will either remain or get bought out by bigger players
September 19, 2013, 03:34:00 AM
Not
so
much
...
so
much
...
EM, what do you honestly expect to happen with bitcoin in the next 3-5 years?
Mtgox and/or Bitpay might be gone, SR still kickin but lots of competition from alts and technical problems.
I expect the Bitcoin community to be composed of Internet Libertarians for the entirety of the Project. It will be all about "spreading the word" still.
September 19, 2013, 12:31:27 AM
I think Gox will survive this - but they have definitely lost their front-runner status which is not necessarily a bad thing.
Its undeniably awful for them!
They should be ashamed. Such an easy position to hold but incredible levels of incompetence destroyed them.
Late last year when I first learned about MtGox I quickly assumed that they would be the next Google or Facebook, a mega-company to ride the Bitcoin revolution. They are sure crashing and burning instead. Very sad, but largely due to their own incompetence (failed merger, regulatory failures).
September 19, 2013, 12:28:28 AM
Gox will not lose front runner status until they resume withdrawals. And that will cause mega crash to single digits and eventually annihilation of bitcoin. So, there will be no front-runner.
September 19, 2013, 12:24:26 AM
Gox proclaimed dead. Funeral to be arranged shortly:
Invitations going out soon...
Its undeniably awful for them!
They should be ashamed. Such an easy position to hold but incredible levels of incompetence destroyed them.
September 19, 2013, 12:22:10 AM
Gox proclaimed dead. Funeral to be arranged shortly:
Invitations going out soon...
September 19, 2013, 12:21:04 AM
Gox proclaimed dead. Funeral to be arranged shortly:
Invitations going out soon...
September 18, 2013, 11:48:33 PM
Gox proclaimed dead. Funeral to be arranged shortly:
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