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legendary
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Common sense gun laws aren't authoritarian restrictions.
Common sense gun laws should be viewed the same as a drivers license or medical license...

Any time I see "Common sense" I can just interpret it as a euphemism for "Laws I want but you don't" and ignore the rest. Be specific.

Let's name a few

- restrict the insane from buying
- restrict criminals from buying
- proper storage of weapons in the home
- gun registration
- no open or concealed carry for assault rifles
- ban on high capacity magazines
- ban on full-auto firing
Etc.
Etc.


Well, it's not your country, so therefore none of your business.
legendary
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Ok whatever.... you mentioned "popular will of the people"/"representative democracy. "
If that was truly the case, that last clown elected in 2016 would not have happened.

I'd agree. But for different reasons, probably. The republicans had continually been served up a dismal variety of swampy establishment candidates so Trump was largely a spoiler vote (Though many seem quite happy with what he was able to achieve despite opposition from his own party and several years of lies and questionable legal procedures against him). Parties have had a terrible effect on this country on both sides.

.....

I would *welcome* a widespread review of gun laws in the US. The overwhelming majority of them would be thrown out as ineffectual if nothing else.

The USA is a gun toting culture. Always has been, always will be.
So get used to mass shootings. (I'd venture to guess most Americans have at this point) They are not going away.
Debating gun laws in the USA is like debating religion.
Just like the thoughts and prayers the victims get, it's totally fruitless and useless. Sad but true.

Yes, probably. Until we have a proper discussion about the causes of such things and work on a proper way to solve them other than passing another ineffectual and unwanted restriction on gun ownership that only really affects regular, law abiding people, not much is going to change.

You mean things like

- universal affordable healthcare
- addressing mental illness
- social security
- a safe working environment where
  You can be sick without getting fired
  you can get fired every second of the day for no reason
- the possibility of having a retirement

All those liberal things that republicans are against...

Why do you hate the United States?

They have saved Europe twice and is now saving us a third time, show some respect and gratitude instead of this constant bashing.
legendary
Activity: 1652
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Common sense gun laws aren't authoritarian restrictions.
Common sense gun laws should be viewed the same as a drivers license or medical license...

Any time I see "Common sense" I can just interpret it as a euphemism for "Laws I want but you don't" and ignore the rest. Be specific.

Let's name a few

- restrict the insane from buying
- restrict criminals from buying
- proper storage of weapons in the home
- gun registration
- no open or concealed carry for assault rifles
- ban on high capacity magazines
- ban on full-auto firing
Etc.
Etc.
legendary
Activity: 2282
Merit: 1767
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Shame yesterday's bump didn't stick Sad

Skye Cloud Sodja
Jacob Camello
Tara Walker
Chris Guillott
Sage Myers
Brianna Ford
Kyla Ford
Tayler Calderon

Google them. (You may do better if you add 'antifa' to the search... but you will find them all, I think)

I could go on all day.  You are wrong.  Antifa mugshots from Portland:



Dude is behind the times. He should watch less CNN (everyone else is). The "antifa is just an idea" BS talking point was abandoned as more and more video evidence showed that that was a laughable statement. Politicians rely too much on old methods invalidated by modern technology.

There seems to be a pattern here, when the stock market in the USA is closed bitcoin (and stonks) go up, when it opens again, it goes down.
legendary
Activity: 1652
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Ok whatever.... you mentioned "popular will of the people"/"representative democracy. "
If that was truly the case, that last clown elected in 2016 would not have happened.

I'd agree. But for different reasons, probably. The republicans had continually been served up a dismal variety of swampy establishment candidates so Trump was largely a spoiler vote (Though many seem quite happy with what he was able to achieve despite opposition from his own party and several years of lies and questionable legal procedures against him). Parties have had a terrible effect on this country on both sides.

.....

I would *welcome* a widespread review of gun laws in the US. The overwhelming majority of them would be thrown out as ineffectual if nothing else.

The USA is a gun toting culture. Always has been, always will be.
So get used to mass shootings. (I'd venture to guess most Americans have at this point) They are not going away.
Debating gun laws in the USA is like debating religion.
Just like the thoughts and prayers the victims get, it's totally fruitless and useless. Sad but true.

Yes, probably. Until we have a proper discussion about the causes of such things and work on a proper way to solve them other than passing another ineffectual and unwanted restriction on gun ownership that only really affects regular, law abiding people, not much is going to change.

You mean things like

- universal affordable healthcare
- addressing mental illness
- social security
- a safe working environment where
  You can be sick without getting fired
  you can get fired every second of the day for no reason
- the possibility of having a retirement

All those liberal things that republicans are against...
legendary
Activity: 2282
Merit: 1767
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Funny how most of them look more or less retarded, top left could be the secret love child of one of the Bogdanoffs.

This one even better.



Hehe, yeah, that one's even better.

I wish a country where all these leftoids could be dumped could be created, kind of like a Liberia for the left.

(yes I know Liberia wasn't created as a "dump" country, but rather a place to repatriate black slaves, but you know what I mean).
legendary
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Neighborhood Shenanigans Dispenser
Name five ANTIFA members?
You can't because it's a BS story fed to you by republicans...
With the amount of trump supporters going to jail it's getting harder to pass the blame.

I'm honestly having difficulty trying to understand if this is satire, of if the poster is being genuine with their thought process, here.
legendary
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Shame yesterday's bump didn't stick Sad

Skye Cloud Sodja
Jacob Camello
Tara Walker
Chris Guillott
Sage Myers
Brianna Ford
Kyla Ford
Tayler Calderon

Google them. (You may do better if you add 'antifa' to the search... but you will find them all, I think)

I could go on all day.  You are wrong.  Antifa mugshots from Portland:



Dude is behind the times. He should watch less CNN (everyone else is). The "antifa is just an idea" BS talking point was abandoned as more and more video evidence showed that that was a laughable statement. Politicians rely too much on old methods invalidated by modern technology.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2373
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Funny how most of them look more or less retarded, top left could be the secret love child of one of the Bogdanoffs.

This one even better.

legendary
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Nah, when the Netherlands govt comes to take away the farmers' lands, the disarmed farmers can just spray them with more cow manure.

Hope they don't run out of manure though. That would suck.   Undecided   Cry
legendary
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Jesus Christ, another shooting in America? At this point, Americans should be accepted by other countries (the ones they haven't yet bombed) as refugees on the grounds that the USA is too dangerous to live in. well at least it wasn't a cop, firing 42 warning rounds into an unarmed persons back, this time.

Haha. I actually agree. The more people that don't like this country that leave, the better. They always threaten to go to Canada but they're still here, shooting their cinematographers.
legendary
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The Concierge of Crypto
If guns cause crime then all of mine are defective.
If you're not willing to defend your life while you're still alive, don't come crying on my shoulder when you end up dead.
Don't run from a sniper, you'll just die tired.
A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.
I carry a 1911 because i cant fit a cop in my pocket.
Why press 911...when you could squeeze 9mm.
An armed man is a Citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.
Gun Control is not about guns; it's about control.
Those who trade Liberty for security have neither.
What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?
Better to have one and not need it, than to need one and not have it.

You have the right to life, and to protect that life, including you and your family. You guys debate all day if you'd like, I'm keeping my family safe. Have a great day!
legendary
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Common sense gun laws aren't authoritarian restrictions.
Common sense gun laws should be viewed the same as a drivers license or medical license...

Any time I see "Common sense" I can just interpret it as a euphemism for "Laws I want but you don't" and ignore the rest. Be specific.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2373
1RichyTrEwPYjZSeAYxeiFBNnKC9UjC5k
Ok whatever.... you mentioned "popular will of the people"/"representative democracy. "
If that was truly the case, that last clown elected in 2016 would not have happened.

I'd agree. But for different reasons, probably. The republicans had continually been served up a dismal variety of swampy establishment candidates so Trump was largely a spoiler vote (Though many seem quite happy with what he was able to achieve despite opposition from his own party and several years of lies and questionable legal procedures against him). Parties have had a terrible effect on this country on both sides.

.....

I would *welcome* a widespread review of gun laws in the US. The overwhelming majority of them would be thrown out as ineffectual if nothing else.

The USA is a gun toting culture. Always has been, always will be.
So get used to mass shootings. (I'd venture to guess most Americans have at this point) They are not going away.
Debating gun laws in the USA is like debating religion.
Just like the thoughts and prayers the victims get, it's totally fruitless and useless. Sad but true.

Yes, probably. Until we have a proper discussion about the causes of such things and work on a proper way to solve them other than passing another ineffectual and unwanted restriction on gun ownership that only really affects regular, law abiding people, not much is going to change.
legendary
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And also, because of those illegal guns/shootings, some schools in "areas with challenges" as they are now called have "shooting drills" or whatever they are called in English.
legendary
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legendary
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Sweden still has not implemented the EU gun directive. Why you ask? Because the government has not proposed a bill that only imlements the bare minimum, they have so far tried three times but with additional restrictions, and that has every time been rejected by the parliament.

The military have also strongly supported the parliaments position on the matter saying that a well armed and well trained population is of great importance for the countries safety in case of a Russian invasion.

The EU is now threathening Sweden with sanctions if we do not implement the directive with haste.
The russian invasion of Ukraine and the threath of sanctions will most likely make the government follow the will of the parliament this time.
If not, it will be rejected again.

Sweden is a fairly gun liberal country, many swedes hunt or sport shoot, and the crimes commited by legal gun owners is practically zero. Still we have a lot of shootings, all done by immigrants with smuggled in, illegal weapons, some of which could have been prevented if we had legal carry in Sweden, but unfortunately, while it's not that hard to get a gun permit, it's almost impossible to get a carry permit, you can only carry/transport your gun to the place you are going to legally use the gun, ie the hunting grounds, shooting range or a gunsmith/dealer.

So yes there are "sane" countries with liberal gun laws outside the USA.
legendary
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Another teenage mass murderer in the USA.

 Roll Eyes

Happy Independence Day... Ugh....

 Cry

6 dead, dozens wounded in shooting rampage at July 4th parade in Chicago suburb of Highland Park

Don't know what's stopping usa from reviewing there gun law. This is crossing limits now.

Gun laws just got reviewed in the supreme court. Didn't go the way you'd like. Sorry, not sorry.

It is sad that it has to be explained.  But the gun laws in the USA are there so that if they try in the US what is being tried in other countries across the world it will be much harder to do.

The news will most likely not report it, but the shooter in Chicago was an antifa type masquerading as a "Trumper".  Why is this happening, you might ask?

We are in a war.  A new sort of war.

Name five ANTIFA members?

You can't because it's a BS story fed to you by republicans...

With the amount of trump supporters going to jail it's getting harder to pass the blame.

Skye Cloud Sodja
Jacob Camello
Tara Walker
Chris Guillott
Sage Myers
Brianna Ford
Kyla Ford
Tayler Calderon

Google them. (You may do better if you add 'antifa' to the search... but you will find them all, I think)

I could go on all day.  You are wrong.  Antifa mugshots from Portland:



Funny how most of them look more or less retarded, top left could be the secret love child of one of the Bogdanoffs.
legendary
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Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!
When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.
Gun control means using both hands.
Good guys with guns do stop bad guys with guns. Maybe not all the time, but enough times to count for something.
When seconds count, the police are minutes away.




And observing...

More innocent people/kids get shot than bad guys if you look up the stats.
If the bad guys couldn't get the guns the police would have more than enough time.

And with gun control even more innocent people/kids will get shot and even less bad guys will be shot, because bad guys will allways get their hands on guns, while good guys will obey the law.

Not if you look at the rest of the world. The rest of the world seems to know how to solve this uniquely American problem...

Yup.  And where it leads:



OK I mean it this time. Wink
legendary
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When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.
Gun control means using both hands.
Good guys with guns do stop bad guys with guns. Maybe not all the time, but enough times to count for something.
When seconds count, the police are minutes away.




And observing...

More innocent people/kids get shot than bad guys if you look up the stats.
If the bad guys couldn't get the guns the police would have more than enough time.

And with gun control even more innocent people/kids will get shot and even less bad guys will be shot, because bad guys will allways get their hands on guns, while good guys will obey the law.

Not if you look at the rest of the world. The rest of the world seems to know how to solve this uniquely American problem...
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