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legendary
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then the no-brainer approach will be to sell your coin now, and stock up on your fiat, ...
As a "no-brainer", thats just what I did Cheesy

Exactly this is why the price was falling now. However market theory says that this is all priced in the 103$ we have now.
Obviously the Sunday dumps will not go on forever...
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then the no-brainer approach will be to sell your coin now, and stock up on your fiat, ...
As a "no-brainer", thats just what I did Cheesy
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Having volume today is a very normal market reaction. 

If we are expecting that the "manipulator" will make a large dump on Sunday to cause a price fall,  then the no-brainer approach will be to sell your coin now, and stock up on your fiat, to buy back on Sunday after the dump.


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Those who are intermediaries in the transfer of virtual currencies from one person to another person, or to another location, are money transmitters that must register with FinCEN as MSBs, unless an exception applies.
Pretty depressing really.

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Liberty Reserve operated as an online money transmitter deliberately designed to avoid regulatory scrutiny and tailored its services to illicit actors looking to launder their ill gotten gains.

According to the allegations contained in a related criminal action brought by the U.S. Department of Justice, those illicit actors included criminal organizations engaged in credit card fraud, identity theft, investment fraud, computer hacking, narcotics trafficking, and most relevant for today’s purposes, child pornography.
The action taken by FinCEN was designed to protect the financial system from the risk posed by Liberty Reserve an online, virtual currency, money transfer system that was conceived and operated specifically to allow and encourage illicit use because of the anonymity it offers.
They could replace "Liberty Reserve" with "Bitcoin" and it would still be just as accurate, more so actually.

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I recently heard a banker say that there is a reason that financial institutions have to obtain licenses. It is a great bestowal of trust that enables banks to be part of the U.S. financial system, to be part of the global financial system.
Yeah... "A great bestowal of trust". It has nothing to do with preventing competition. no no.

The saddest thing about this entire document is that they never mentioned that foreign companies / individuals are exempt as long as they do not deal with US.

Guess nobody is really exempt from the almighty world police of USSA.

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I would like to close with a challenge to our great innovators: extend your focus to devising creative solutions for preventing the abuse of virtual currencies by criminals, such as those who would exploit children
The "think of the children" card, honestly, it's getting kind of old.

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We all stand to benefit from such innovation, and the related transparency and integrity to our financial system
Oh, the sweet sweet irony.
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The trouble is that because BTC is used more for speculation than anything else the price varies wildly according speculators moods.  If it was more widely used as a currency then that would give it an intrinsic value and some inertia to its price changes.  For example there are traders dealing in USD but if they go crazy then still nobody's going to give you $20000 for £500 because $20000 also represents the price of a new car which £500 obviously doesn't.  Widespread use might not be good for speculators but for BTC itself as a currency it would stabilise its value a lot.

Of course though this is a speculators forum so I don't expect this suggestion to be very popular here!
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What are the data points? Daily lows? weighted average price? (I think a scatter chart with trend line only makes sense for the latter).

bingo! Though, I think either's fine as long as it's consistent.
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What are the data points? Daily lows? weighted average price? (I think a scatter chart with trend line only makes sense for the latter).
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(PS: If you have fiat, now is the time to buy ;-))

You meant sell bitcoins to get more fiat, right?


updated chart, dashed line is extrapolated - in case you missed it, the price is still going down... Smiley



Do you have one of those for when the price was reaching $260?

I had one in my head... Sad
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(PS: If you have fiat, now is the time to buy ;-))

You meant sell bitcoins to get more fiat, right?


updated chart, dashed line is extrapolated - in case you missed it, the price is still going down... Smiley



Do you have one of those for when the price was reaching $260?
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(PS: If you have fiat, now is the time to buy ;-))

You meant sell bitcoins to get more fiat, right?

Regarding volume, even with a mini crash last night (and associated trading), the volume for yesterday was still miles off where you'd expect given the price. Today doesn't look so different so far...


updated chart, dashed line is extrapolated - in case you missed it, the price is still going down... Smiley

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I don't know what you mean, all the evidence points to the fact that Gox is actually quite safe.

(PS: If you have fiat, now is the time to buy ;-))

Debatable, I did and dumped, net 0.60$ loss but I don't think there are legs for this market still at 104
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Having volume today is a very normal market reaction. 

If we are expecting that the "manipulator" will make a large dump on Sunday to cause a price fall,  then the no-brainer approach will be to sell your coin now, and stock up on your fiat, to buy back on Sunday after the dump.
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I don't know what you mean, all the evidence points to the fact that Gox is actually quite safe.

(PS: If you have fiat, now is the time to buy ;-))
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makes me wonder what the hell i'm doing with fiat on gox; i made sure to do KYC so my accounts don't get frozen but you never know really do you ??
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Interesting that we all ready have a bit of volume today. It does seem like there are more buyers out there than I originally thought. But if the selling starts, like yesterday, they just greatly outnumber the buyers and down she goes.

So, to think, what is that price? I'd say it is above $50, closer to $70/$85 but that is hard to predict. We have to watch where we settle and the corresponding volume. The low volume we have seen for a while now always worried me.
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I wonder how much longer this pattern will carry on for, maybe I should just leave a bid on for $2, then ignore BTC for a few months to see if I get it.

And an ask of $10,000 just in case it goes the other way

Fortunately I don't have (can't afford!) enough BTC or fiat in this for it to be a disaster regardless of what happens.

$2 won't happen

Dips are not being too deep, bear is on, but the bottom is closer than some this-is-2011 doomsayers are expecting.

It was a bit different last night though, two separate events that began differently...so they might not be so comparable to dips in recent history. Not that I'm suggesting $2 is likely...
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