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legendary
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Yes the Libertarian ideal is a lie. That's the joke. Libertarians are Republicans in disguise.

I agree in bold their very similar but there is a big difference though, the difference is Republicans use consensus and the tools of law and FED to maintain there wealth.

Libertarians are nothing more than poor republicans. All my protesting hippie college friends that graduated and made a fat stack of cash became republicans. Is republican some sort of code for sell-out? lol
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Here in Canada there is a strong tradition of individual rights. Most people considered Pierre Trudeau to be a socialist, but when he created the Canadian Constitution and Charter of Rights, he stated that collective rights should never have precedence over individual rights. I guess that made him a bit of a Libertarian.

There has been a strong history of individualist thinking throughout the west. Unfortunately, we seem to be in a period where collectivism has come to dominate everything since, as has been said, between the world wars. It cannot stand but it is hard to predict (and somewhat scary to attempt to) how the situation will be rectified
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You're never too old to think young.

Democrats & Republicans (Communist too)  are 2 sides of the same coin - collectivists, (the average is more important than the individual)
Libertarians - individualism, (individuals free from coercion will best serve the whole) the US is founded on the principles of individual freedoms and it provided to serve the whole better than other forms of collectivism up until its demise between the 2 world wars.

That clarifies it a little. I've always felt that collectivists were the problem, whether they were corporations, unions, motorcycle gangs, or governments.

Here in Canada there is a strong tradition of individual rights. Most people considered Pierre Trudeau to be a socialist, but when he created the Canadian Constitution and Charter of Rights, he stated that collective rights should never have precedence over individual rights. I guess that made him a bit of a Libertarian.
legendary
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Dalib, I should have looked at 2011 and compared how the EMA's acted.
The charts are eerily similar. Gonna have to watch the next few weeks closely...

2011 (Note, it is 2011, for some reason the date is wrong, but you can see the prices off to the right.)



2013

legendary
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Yes the Libertarian ideal is a lie. That's the joke. Libertarians are Republicans in disguise.

I agree in bold - very similar but there is a big difference though, the difference is Republicans use consensus and the tools of law and FED to maintain there wealth.
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nobody move!!!   

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MtGox willfully coming under regulations is extremely bullish news.  Anything that brings the Bitcoin economy under US regulations is extremely positive for Bitcoins future.  If this trend continues, I will have to dump my bear claws for bull horns.  Yes, I think it's that significant and of course the news is, soooo anti-Libertarian, I can't hardly control my laughter.   Grin  

This news does not seem to have hit mainstream media in the US yet.  Could be because it came out in a Friday news dump.  I wouldn't expect some crazy panic buy but I would expect sentiment to begin to shift in a positive way toward Bitcoin.  The more Bitcoin can shed it's "anti-regulation", "criminal sponsor" image, the better chance it has to be successful.



All they've done is APPLY.  The application hasn't even been reviewed yet by FINCEN, and, let me tell you, it's going to get a lot of scrutiny.   But the application itself isn't news at all.  Of course they applied - if anything, just to get the money in their seized Dwolla account back.  Did people really expect them to remain shut-off from the US market?
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I thought the whole idea of Libertarianism was less taxation (and hence government). Aren't they the opposite of socialists, closer idealogically to Republicans than Democrats in the American political scale?

Democrats & Republicans (Communist too)  are 2 sides of the same coin - collectivists, (the average is more important than the individual)
Libertarians - individualism, (individuals free from coercion will best serve the whole) the US is founded on the principles of individual freedoms and it provided to serve the whole better than other forms of collectivism up until its demise between the 2 world wars.
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The Libertarian nut jobs on this forum drove me so crazy at one point I said fuck this place.... The hardcore Porcfest Libertarians in TBF like Voorhees are going to end up Republicans if they keep making truckloads of money and going mainstream. It's a great treat to watch them slowly sell out their principals to be wealthy. I actually expect to see him on a platform next to a republican presidential candidate someday screaming "no new taxes". lol

Huh

I thought the whole idea of Libertarianism was less taxation (and hence government). Aren't they the opposite of socialists, closer idealogically to Republicans than Democrats in the American political scale?



Yes the Libertarian ideal is a lie. That's the joke. Libertarians are Republicans in disguise.
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Funny, was just going to post this and see you (Phoenix1) curious - just a coincidence if you believe in them.

I'm not going to play any bounces right yet. I'm going to see if any rally takes us through the 100 day EMA. We just crossed (under 10 day EMA) for the first time in a looooong time.
The 20 day or so EMA hasn't crossed and to be honest I have just played around with the 10 and 100 day - don't know that it is an accepted method.
The 10 day SMA has crossed under the 10 day EMA (slightly bearish) and that is accepted so I will still wait and look for strong confirmation of a reversal.

Regarding the hourly candles - well, the 4 and 1 hour are not doing anything and even the 15 min charts look the same. $100 is a key psychological barrier. And even if we break it, do we stay
above it for long? Next few days will be interesting and I'm curious is our WE dumper (and perhaps rescuer) re-appears.





I have analyzed by this method again in 2011:

I do not predict trend in 2013 according to 2011 bubbles.

But, who in 2011 according to this method sold and bought spared large losses (sold for 10 to 12, bought for 2-4, it is more than 250%).

Also in 2011 but the price of most collapsed after breaking Support on about $ 12 and the uptrend started to price first breached the "red line".

On the other hand, in 2011 was vastly different accumulation and distribution.

I still expect that if he falls below $ 92 a declining trend even faster this year. If we break up triangle, uptrend begins.

I believe that will see up to 10 days the end of the triangle.

legendary
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
The Libertarian nut jobs on this forum drove me so crazy at one point I said fuck this place.... The hardcore Porcfest Libertarians in TBF like Voorhees are going to end up Republicans if they keep making truckloads of money and going mainstream. It's a great treat to watch them slowly sell out their principals to be wealthy. I actually expect to see him on a platform next to a republican presidential candidate someday screaming "no new taxes". lol

Huh

I thought the whole idea of Libertarianism was less taxation (and hence government). Aren't they the opposite of socialists, closer idealogically to Republicans than Democrats in the American political scale?



Yes the Libertarian ideal is a lie. That's the joke. Libertarians are Republicans in disguise.
legendary
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You're never too old to think young.
The Libertarian nut jobs on this forum drove me so crazy at one point I said fuck this place.... The hardcore Porcfest Libertarians in TBF like Voorhees are going to end up Republicans if they keep making truckloads of money and going mainstream. It's a great treat to watch them slowly sell out their principals to be wealthy. I actually expect to see him on a platform next to a republican presidential candidate someday screaming "no new taxes". lol

Huh

I thought the whole idea of Libertarianism was less taxation (and hence government). Aren't they the opposite of socialists, closer idealogically to Republicans than Democrats in the American political scale?

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Down periscope .... $80 here we come ... whoop whoop  Grin





Wait ... is that Shroomskit in the picture ?
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Down periscope .... $80 here we come ... whoop whoop  Grin
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MtGox willfully coming under regulations is extremely bullish news.  Anything that brings the Bitcoin economy under US regulations is extremely positive for Bitcoins future.  If this trend continues, I will have to dump my bear claws for bull horns.  Yes, I think it's that significant and of course the news is, soooo anti-Libertarian, I can't hardly control my laughter.   Grin  

This news does not seem to have hit mainstream media in the US yet.  Could be because it came out in a Friday news dump.  I wouldn't expect some crazy panic buy but I would expect sentiment to begin to shift in a positive way toward Bitcoin.  The more Bitcoin can shed it's "anti-regulation", "criminal sponsor" image, the better chance it has to be successful.


I have to agree with you this time. It's very good for the survivability of Bitcoin. This is also very anti-Libertarian news. Soon Gox will be offering a free McDonalds Happy Meal with every deposit in their national currency of $100 or more. The Libertarian nut jobs on this forum drove me so crazy at one point I said fuck this place, deleted every post (almost 3000) and had theymos delete my account (CornedBeefHash). I just started watching the forum to see when to sell my stash of Bitcoinz. It's really hard to just watch for news and not have the ability to tell some of the turds off. I had to be able to post and tell them how stupid they are so I decided to QuestionAuthority at every turn. The hardcore Porcfest Libertarians in TBF like Voorhees are going to end up Republicans if they keep making truckloads of money and going mainstream. It's a great treat to watch them slowly sell out their principals to be wealthy. I actually expect to see him on a platform next to a republican presidential candidate someday screaming "no new taxes". lol


 Cheesy
legendary
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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.
MtGox willfully coming under regulations is extremely bullish news.  Anything that brings the Bitcoin economy under US regulations is extremely positive for Bitcoins future.  If this trend continues, I will have to dump my bear claws for bull horns.  Yes, I think it's that significant and of course the news is, soooo anti-Libertarian, I can't hardly control my laughter.   Grin  

This news does not seem to have hit mainstream media in the US yet.  Could be because it came out in a Friday news dump.  I wouldn't expect some crazy panic buy but I would expect sentiment to begin to shift in a positive way toward Bitcoin.  The more Bitcoin can shed it's "anti-regulation", "criminal sponsor" image, the better chance it has to be successful.


I have to agree with you this time. It's very good for the survivability of Bitcoin. This is also very anti-Libertarian news. Soon Gox will be offering a free McDonalds Happy Meal with every deposit in their national currency of $100 or more. The Libertarian nut jobs on this forum drove me so crazy at one point I said fuck this place, deleted every post (almost 3000) and had theymos delete my account (CornedBeefHash). I just started watching the forum to see when to sell my stash of Bitcoinz. It's really hard to just watch for news and not have the ability to tell some of the turds off. I had to be able to post and tell them how stupid they are so I decided to QuestionAuthority at every turn. The hardcore Porcfest Libertarians in TBF like Voorhees are going to end up Republicans if they keep making truckloads of money and going mainstream. It's a great treat to watch them slowly sell out their principals to be wealthy. I actually expect to see him on a platform next to a republican presidential candidate someday screaming "no new taxes". lol
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This is a good news for those interested in the bright future for bitcoin. But it's bad news for those interested in drug-dealing and mioney-laundering with btc. Don't you think at first these people will cash out?
They will just use btc-e or some other unregulated exchange.

True, it will be business as usual for the drug sellers. MtGox will deal with the large user base of legitimate users.

Of course anyone can also send their Bitcoins to MtGox for trading over time and just use one of the fringe exchanges or OTC for cashing out whenever they want some fiat.
legendary
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This is a good news for those interested in the bright future for bitcoin. But it's bad news for those interested in drug-dealing and mioney-laundering with btc. Don't you think at first these people will cash out?
They will just use btc-e or some other unregulated exchange.
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