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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 33415. (Read 26497052 times)

legendary
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There is no reason for the sudden and dramatic rise in volume. Insider trading? My bet is that some traders have become aware of impending negative news regarding gox and want coins off the exchange. We've been on the edge since the Dwolla incident.

Is this some kind of advanced reverse psychology that you are speaking?  Cheesy
There was just a conference with lots of VC's there. So, some traders know of impending negative news and so are somehow driving the price up and risking lots of $$$ in the meantime?
You should write children's stories...  Grin

Come on, you can come up with something more factual that that. How about the Japanese stock market COLLAPSED by 12% yesterday and that is a sign that Quantitative Easing (aka planned hyperinflation) doesn't work.

Ok , let's hold the bulls a bit and be serious , with facts
NIKKEI is way higher than it was one month ago , even with the drop , ( not 12%) and currently is running green at +0.9%.

Let's not get into another Cyprus story

The Nikkei is up for a few reasons: 1 - They are printing A LOT more money there per suggestion from American Bankers. A LOT of that money goes into the stock market there, as it does in America. 2 - The artificially low interest rates create a situation where corporations are borrowing next to free money and buying back there stocks. Up 82% over last year. This reduces shares in the publics hands and therefor profits go up (with less shares to count for). 3. The artificially low interest rates cause savers to be penalized as savings is lowing value due to the inflationary environment. So, they put money in the stock market.

Now of course, the campaign to keep gold and silver down via naked puts is as strong as ever. They MUST not allow a rising gold/silver price to their money as the public knows the historical connection. So, they keep it down. See Gata.org.

Now, when you see the stock market fall 7% in one day, don't try to paint an inflationary induced rise in a positive way. It is up due to printing money, plain and simple.

When productivity goes down, unemployment up, etc. and the stock market is up HUGE, what the heck does that tell any sane person about the economy and the situation in general? We don't believe nor trust the what the government is saying, because we have learned better.
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legendary
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legendary
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Can you believe Mtgox still didn't fix their shit?
How is that even possible?

Can't really blame them. I heard they've been working night and day on regulatory compliance. /snark
hero member
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Can you believe Mtgox still didn't fix their shit?
How is that even possible?
You must be new here.

Yup, signed up yesterday.
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"Don't go in the trollbox, trollbox, trollbox"
All of a sudden I'm checking that blue line. Nah, we couldn't could we?

I'm still cautious, if we close above $130 today I shall do some sort of merry, little dance.



Further thoughts in a thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/manbearpigs-annotated-updated-btcusd-chart-for-2013-may-24th-215267 in Speculation.
legendary
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The lull got me out of the house for a couple days, but enough of that real life shit. Bring on the action!



That's some strong window bars to hold all those guys
legendary
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Ok , let's hold the bulls a bit and be serious , with facts
NIKKEI is way higher than it was one month ago , even with the drop , ( not 12%) and currently is running green at +0.9%.

Let's not get into another Cyprus story

You think the NIKKEI can just drop >7% in one day and then recover the next day as if nothing has happened? Everyone has seen how much the stock market is built on hot air and how unstable it is, we have definitely not seen the last of this dip.
legendary
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Can you believe Mtgox still didn't fix their shit?
How is that even possible?
You must be new here.
legendary
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The lull got me out of the house for a couple days, but enough of that real life shit. Bring on the action!



nice one
sr. member
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The lull got me out of the house for a couple days, but enough of that real life shit. Bring on the action!

hero member
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in defi we trust
There is no reason for the sudden and dramatic rise in volume. Insider trading? My bet is that some traders have become aware of impending negative news regarding gox and want coins off the exchange. We've been on the edge since the Dwolla incident.

Is this some kind of advanced reverse psychology that you are speaking?  Cheesy
There was just a conference with lots of VC's there. So, some traders know of impending negative news and so are somehow driving the price up and risking lots of $$$ in the meantime?
You should write children's stories...  Grin

Come on, you can come up with something more factual that that. How about the Japanese stock market COLLAPSED by 12% yesterday and that is a sign that Quantitative Easing (aka planned hyperinflation) doesn't work.

Ok , let's hold the bulls a bit and be serious , with facts
NIKKEI is way higher than it was one month ago , even with the drop , ( not 12%) and currently is running green at +0.9%.

Let's not get into another Cyprus story
legendary
Activity: 1442
Merit: 1000
Antifragile
There is no reason for the sudden and dramatic rise in volume. Insider trading? My bet is that some traders have become aware of impending negative news regarding gox and want coins off the exchange. We've been on the edge since the Dwolla incident.

Is this some kind of advanced reverse psychology that you are speaking?  Cheesy
There was just a conference with lots of VC's there. So, some traders know of impending negative news and so are somehow driving the price up and risking lots of $$$ in the meantime?
You should write children's stories...  Grin

Come on, you can come up with something more factual that that. How about the Japanese stock market COLLAPSED by 12% yesterday and that is a sign that Quantitative Easing (aka planned hyperinflation) doesn't work.
hero member
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Can you believe Mtgox still didn't fix their shit?
How is that even possible?

Humans tend to be complacent, greedy assholes when nothing is around to make them feel as if they have to do better for their self interest.

In summary, it's because Gox has no real competition, so they're content to just do whatever since there's no reckoning to face if they do poorly.

That would be real bad if that is the case.
member
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Can you believe Mtgox still didn't fix their shit?
How is that even possible?

bitstamp is still working beautifully.

But Mt.Gox just proved that it still is most definitely the price leader - all the other exchanges, including bitstamp, are just following, and lagging behind while doing so. Mt.Gox is back to having up to 10 times the volume than bitstamp a.t.m.
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Bitcoin Mininode...and proud!
Watching this thing attempt to go over 132 is like watching the birth of a baby.


PUUUUSH! Cmon' PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSHHHHHHH!!!!
member
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Can you believe Mtgox still didn't fix their shit?
How is that even possible?

Humans tend to be complacent, greedy assholes when nothing is around to make them feel as if they have to do better for their self interest.

In summary, it's because Gox has no real competition, so they're content to just do whatever since there's no reckoning to face if they do poorly.
legendary
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I think were done for today. Or maybe even the weekend. That would be fine with me. Lets not get over excited. That usually results in a crash.

I don't think the action is over for today. mt.gox appears just about ready to retest 130 again (and will most likely fail once more - still about 5000BTC there).


YeH, probably not the action itself but i can see it stay around 129 for a few days. But i can also see myself veing wrong Wink

Eh, I was half right at least. I will take what I can get.

It's great to be able to watch this live if you were already all in before it started.  Grin

That's why I'm all in since a good couple of months now!  It was a bit painful to see the massive drop especially as I'd been selling some bitcoin for a friend at £168 but although I could in principle have doubled my bitcoins had my timing been perfect life is a lot less stressful with the decision already made.   And at least I don't get the 'doh, I've missed the boat' feeling at times like this Smiley

it has been fun to watch all the skeptical people about bitcoin lately.
anyway, our forecast is fully on track and subscribers know it
let the BITBEARS say what they want..
legendary
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