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legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
The Russian oracle made an astounding call in 2014.  Not only did he nail the top but he described the trajectory of the next couple years to a 'T'.  But broken clocks are right from time to time...  (I always hated that old saw... because you can have a clock that is broken, and just slow... or others... it has the be STOPPED to be right twice a day).

And even since that time some of his analysis has been interesting and even sometimes accurate...

But one thing I have noticed in my years trading thing... Either do you own research and act on it or stay the fuck away from 'trading'.

I wonder how much money good old "bitcoin vanga" cost various sheep along the way?  Not to blame it on them.  No on second thought I blame it on them.

I remember a few times back then warning people not to blindly follow his advice (I thought he was manipulating), but people don't listen and I just got tired of having people ignore my advice.

Sheeple like to have their bad choices justified and actually hate people who try to stop them from making them.

I can count on one hand the amount of times I've been thanked over the years when I can only remember one time when I gave bad advice (which sticks in my mind as is still bothers me) and even that was only a 10% loss.
legendary
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If bugs were giant, like 2+ meters tall. Would we still be squeamish about eating them? Or would we hold them like farm animals?

shut up... fc ukp

Your question is politically incorrect. & not only politically.

Be green, SAVE THE PLANET

Who the fuck are you?  Ignored.
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astounding call

Skepticism of trickery and pseudoscience is one of my little hobbies.

Study sometime how astrologers work.  Actual, literal astrologers.  They do make many predictions that prove accurate.  If they didn’t often seem astoundingly prescient, they would have no business.

Similarly as for all manner of psychics, New Age gurus, etc.

Although I can’t be sure without the power to read minds, I suspect that some of them may even sincerely believe in their own powers of prediction.  The rest just take payola to shill for shitcoins on Twitter fleece the fools without conscience.

Though that’s nothing.  Look into how Uri Geller tricked some incautious “scientists” into publicly making fools of themselves.  (Then, check on Geller’s known net worth; his scam is highly profitable.)

Such a hobby tunes up the b.s. detector.  It also gives great pessimism about the unresolved question of whether or not non-artificial intelligence exists. Wink

But broken clocks are right from time to time...  (I always hated that old saw... because you can have a clock that is broken, and just slow... or others... it has the be STOPPED to be right twice a day).

I always heard the aphorism as, “A stopped clock is right twice per day.”
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If bugs were giant, like 2+ meters tall. Would we still be squeamish about eating them? Or would we hold them like farm animals?

shut up... fc ukp

Your question is politically incorrect. & not only politically.

Be green, SAVE THE PLANET
legendary
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You know, one of the main reasons why mindrust pulled out was greed. He aimed at some high amount of $ per BTC, he said he would never sell below that. When he was about x10 from his entry price he feared to lose more, so he sold everything but 1 BTC (IIRC, which i often doubt, hence my meaningful nickname).
This sets you apart from mindrust, though, only if the (true) motivation for your leveraged long position wasn't greed.

Some derivatives and tools of the financial markets are tempting because powerful if used successfully, but i think Satoshi was very much against them, as parts of the system, so he propagated HODL. This is what you should have done, but it's hard to do follow advice if you only trust in your own judgement. In reality, we are so weak and full of error...

Good luck and act accordingly  Smiley

I agree, mindrust's goal was always to increase his fiat stash and that is the trap he fell into.

He fell for the astrology of Masterluc and thought he could rebuy at $1500 IIRC.

He over exposed himself with his buy gamble (effective long) and was terrified of losing fiat value.

He forgot 1 BTC = 1 BTC and for that he will always be a cautioning tale.

The Russian oracle made an astounding call in 2014.  Not only did he nail the top but he described the trajectory of the next couple years to a 'T'.  But broken clocks are right from time to time...  (I always hated that old saw... because you can have a clock that is broken, and just slow... or others... it has the be STOPPED to be right twice a day).

And even since that time some of his analysis has been interesting and even sometimes accurate...

But one thing I have noticed in my years trading thing... Either do you own research and act on it or stay the fuck away from 'trading'.

I wonder how much money good old "bitcoin vanga" cost various sheep along the way?  Not to blame it on them.  No on second thought I blame it on them.
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How to make an instant Nully post in 3 easy steps…

1. Type “blah” in Notepad.(no quotes)
2. Copy to clipboard.
3. Hold down the “control” and “v” keys for like 5 minutes.
Voila….

Sounds like too much work to mimic someone who only ever writes "This user is currently ignored".
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My bad if I misread your intention.

That admittedly was not the clearest or most cogent post I have ever written.  Rather, my “wtf, I’m not mindrust” rant.  Batted out as a distraction, for I am trying to multitask with something that should absorb my full attention:  Write code to make money, so I can regrow my BTC!

I have frankly been grieving.  Because it’s not “only money” to me.  Bitcoin.

Grieving has a proper time.  Then, it is time to move on and be a ruthless mercenary capitalist.

Its not hard for me as a man to admit if I was wrong. Wink

I’ll play one-downsmanship here, and I will win:

I’m the one who just blew away my bitcoins doing something I had previously warned others not to do.  I knew better.  I ignored my own warnings, and paid the price of failing to heed my own wisdom.  Hypocrisy is all the worse for those who are right:  “I told me so.”  I financially checkmated myself with grandmaster-level foolishness—built myself such an intricate, too-clever-for-my-own-good debt trap as no clueless newbie would even have known how to set up, then spent months flailing around trying to escape.  Then, I came to WO and sobbed about it.

Man up and admit it:  I was wronger. Cheesy
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You're never too old to think young.
A decade and a half ago I closely followed the robotics advances made by David Hanson (Hanson Robotics) while he was a student at UTD. While David himself focused more on the physical aspects of humanoid robots he subcontracted the AI aspects to a group from California. The results were astonishing for that time.

They developed an AI sense of humor (Philip K. Dick), AI altruism (Jules), AI cynicism (Joey Chaos) and other traits mimicking human emotions and behavior.

Now it seems someone has been using the WO as a testing ground for other humanoid AI experiments: AI verbosity and AI egotism.  Cool
legendary
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You replied to OOM, who replied to me and who was discussing me.  I quoted a portion of your post that was relevant to my point; I thought it was well-said, and I sent it a merit.  Your quote is snipped in such a way that makes it seem that I was arguing with you.

My bad if I misread your intention.

Its not hard for me as a man to admit if I was wrong. Wink
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How to make an instant Nully post in 3 easy steps…

1. Type “blah” in Notepad.(no quotes)
2. Copy to clipboard.
3. Hold down the “control” and “v” keys for like 5 minutes.
Voila….
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I agree, mindrust's goal was always to increase his fiat stash and that is the trap he fell into.

[...]

He forgot 1 BTC = 1 BTC and for that he will always be a cautioning tale.

My motive was greed:  Greed for BTC, not for fiat!  How many times need I say that I calculate PnL in BTC?  (Do the TA-junkie wannabe pro traders in WO know what PnL is? Roll Eyes)

One of my favourite price sites, which I have linked several times, is this:  https://usdsat.com/

The inviolate rule of my life is that 1 BTC = 1 BTC.  I have kept that rule sacred.  My problem is that I shorted the dollar; and in the liquidator bot’s opinion, dollars have recently increased in value against BTC.

I have never bought BTC with the intention of “aiming at some high amount of $ per BTC”.  Never!

When I first came to Bitcoin, it was for pure idealism.  I didn’t even want to have money that increased in value—just as long as it didn’t decrease in value like inflationary fiat scrip.  I idealize price-stable money:  My ideal money lets you work for an amount that would buy one loaf of bread today, put the money in your wallet, and then spend it for one loaf of bread next year—or in ten years.  Want more?  Work more.

I did not come to Bitcoin to get rich.  If I had been thinking that way, I would now be rich:  I could have bought a whale-sized chunk for a song, (undisclosed) years ago!






Jesus Christ man take a step back from that fucking keyboard!

Where the fuck in my post did I mention YOU!!!

You replied to OOM, who replied to me and who was discussing me.  I quoted a portion of your post that was relevant to my point; I thought it was well-said, and I sent it a merit.  Your quote is snipped in such a way that makes it seem that I was arguing with you.
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If bugs were giant, like 2+ meters tall. Would we still be squeamish about eating them? Or would we hold them like farm animals?

Lobster’s the size of cadillacs comes to mind.😀
legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
I agree, mindrust's goal was always to increase his fiat stash and that is the trap he fell into.

[...]

He forgot 1 BTC = 1 BTC and for that he will always be a cautioning tale.

My motive was greed:  Greed for BTC, not for fiat!  How many times need I say that I calculate PnL in BTC?  (Do the TA-junkie wannabe pro traders in WO know what PnL is? Roll Eyes)

One of my favourite price sites, which I have linked several times, is this:  https://usdsat.com/

The inviolate rule of my life is that 1 BTC = 1 BTC.  I have kept that rule sacred.  My problem is that I shorted the dollar; and in the liquidator bot’s opinion, dollars have recently increased in value against BTC.

I have never bought BTC with the intention of “aiming at some high amount of $ per BTC”.  Never!

When I first came to Bitcoin, it was for pure idealism.  I didn’t even want to have money that increased in value—just as long as it didn’t decrease in value like inflationary fiat scrip.  I idealize price-stable money:  My ideal money lets you work for an amount that would buy one loaf of bread today, put the money in your wallet, and then spend it for one loaf of bread next year—or in ten years.  Want more?  Work more.

I did not come to Bitcoin to get rich.  If I had been thinking that way, I would now be rich:  I could have bought a whale-sized chunk for a song, (undisclosed) years ago!






Jesus Christ man take a step back from that fucking keyboard!

Where the fuck in my post did I mention YOU!!!
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If bugs were giant, like 2+ meters tall. Would we still be squeamish about eating them? Or would we hold them like farm animals?

It would be just another cow, prime meat. Anything 2 meters tall would have its muscle structure like any other mammal. Yummy.
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When he was about x10 from his entry price he feared to lose more, so he sold everything but 1 BTC (IIRC, which i often doubt, hence my meaningful nickname).

At the time, mindrust said that he dumped all of his BTC.  All!  He explicitly called himself a nocoiner.

I jinxed myself by quoting this the day before I suffered my second and third liquidations.

I am out of my position from 4550USD.

Few moments later it went from 4000 to 4800 after I sold.

I am a nocoiner now.

Only lost $2k from my initial investment but who knows how much I lost from my future profits.

I just deleted every signature gain, every fork gain I got.


Some worthy ethics there? I guess so. I hope they didn't vanish over time.
You know, one of the main reasons why mindrust pulled out was greed. He aimed at some high amount of $ per BTC, he said he would never sell below that. [...addressed above...]
This sets you apart from mindrust, though, only if the (true) motivation for your leveraged long position wasn't greed.
I agree, mindrust's goal was always to increase his fiat stash and that is the trap he fell into.

[...]

He forgot 1 BTC = 1 BTC and for that he will always be a cautioning tale.

My motive was greed:  Greed for BTC, not for fiat!  How many times need I say that I calculate PnL in BTC?  (Do the TA-junkie wannabe pro traders in WO know what PnL is? Roll Eyes)

One of my favourite price sites, which I have linked several times, is this:  https://usdsat.com/

The inviolate rule of my life is that 1 BTC = 1 BTC.  I have kept that rule sacred.  My problem is that I shorted the dollar; and in the liquidator bot’s opinion, dollars have recently increased in value against BTC.

I have never bought BTC with the intention of “aiming at some high amount of $ per BTC”.  Never!

When I first came to Bitcoin, it was for pure idealism.  I didn’t even want to have money that increased in value—just as long as it didn’t decrease in value like inflationary fiat scrip.  I idealize price-stable money:  My ideal money lets you work for an amount that would buy one loaf of bread today, put the money in your wallet, and then spend it for one loaf of bread next year—or in ten years.  Want more?  Work more.

I did not come to Bitcoin to get rich.  If I had been thinking that way, I would now be rich:  I could have bought a whale-sized chunk for a song, (undisclosed) years ago!

OOM, your lectures on “ethics” are presumptuous.  Thanks duly for your well-wishes, but I am not subject to your judgment.  You are prating with sanctimonious drivel to someone who has repeatedly lost or rejected financial opportunities by being too principled.  My whole life, I have been like that.  Recently, in the past few years, I have been slowly trying to change:  To become a “ruthless mercenary capitalist”, as I called it in a recent post here.  For it is awful to lack for money—you do not know how bad it is, unless you have personally experienced severe poverty and privation.  Hunger is the best teacher of selfishness.  Now, I want to get rich!  With no shame and no apologies, I have been trying bit by bit to embrace rational self-interest.  Finally.  Alas, in this most recent episode, I have been spectacularly untalented at exercising my newfound greed.

In the same vein, I was holding BTC for years before perpetually experiencing its “number go up” properties finally seduced me into a desire for “number go up”.  BTC is infectious that way.  At that point, it was way too late for me to get “Bitcoin rich” for cheap.  Before that, I was basically just using a BTC wallet as an ordinary checking/savings account—not even thinking about it as an investment.  Before that, I used this forum for years without ever venturing into the Speculation board (let alone WO).

Even after Bitcoin effectually corrupted my morals to start speculating on its future value, my intention is and consistently has been to accumulate BTC, hold it, use it as money, invest BTC to make more BTC, and maybe someday exchange a portion for gold.  Gold, yes—central bank shitcoins, no.  I do not want so-called “profit” in fiat currencies that I despise in principle—not any more than I need to maintain my very simple lifestyle, with which I am content.  I do not want a Lambo.  If I ever feel like I have an excess of spending money, then I should like to upgrade my computers, and perhaps buy some more books.  When I have recuperated enough BTC to regain financial security, I will thenceforth continue accumulating BTC as an end in itself—for the love of Bitcoin.  Obviously, if I love it, I should want more of it for myself.  My previous errors on that point have been corrected by watching traders, moonboys, and degens have more BTC than I do.

Some of those here who are equating me to mindrust seem to have missed most of my posts; no one has an obligation to read my long posts, but one should read before opining.  Others may be passively-aggressively insulting me.

The only logical point of comparison between mindrust and me is that we both lost BTC in a crash:  He threw his away, while I clung to mine for dear life as the liquidator bot closed in.  I foredoomed myself to that with some foolish choices a few months ago, but I certainly did not voluntarily choose it.
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