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legendary
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Anyone want a 3D NFT of a dried up, over-used and old vagina?

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/madonna-defends-decision-sell-3d-072504161.html

No?

 Huh

 Maybe she can hook up with Gwyneth Paltrow and come up with a scratch and sniff version.  Might be a great toy for cats and dogs.



 The hole would of course need to be enlarged significantly.
legendary
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The pandemic is over
Bitcoin is dead
IDC

GM y'all Grin

The only pandemic that occurred is a serious affliction of the mental capacities of humans and it seems far from over

Luckily some of us seem to be immune to its effects Smiley

That's weird.  I know three people who died from the imaginary virus, and one who it gave a heart attack to.  All people in risk groups.  Also as a hospital data professional I was in part responsible for building the dashboards that tracked the progress of the imaginary disease.

Nuance is important.  There is no doubt that the greater contagion was the mind virus you mention.  But the design of that is to polarize us into extreme groups so we can be easily controlled.

When I was a kid you could also divide the population into two groups.  There were the "popular" kids who knew what to wear, and what music was currently cool, and what Saturday Night Live punchline should be currently said.  And then there was the other group, who was also aware of all those things but rejected them. We (I was in the latter group) made sure NOT to wear those clothes, made fun of the music and mocked the Saturday Night Live one liners.

It took me a while to realize we were really all playing the same game.

Didnt say there wasnt a virus. Corona virusses have existed for millenia and people have been dying from it since they first started animal husbandry.

Pandemic is the word I attacked.

Also your "dash boards" are full of false info. People falling down stairs and breaking their neck are counted as Covid death. Likewise people dying after taking covid shots (note: they arent vaccines), but before 2 weeks have passed since taking the second dose, are counted as "unvaxxed Covid death".

The data set has been dirty from the start. You've been visualizing false data. Garbage in garbage out.

After this post I will observe this threads preference not to talk about this topic...

But you are talking about data you know nothing about and drawing conclusions in your imagination.  I helped set up covid ICUs at multiple hospitals.  I have been on those units, full of dying people at times during the pandemic.  (The one you said did not exist)

The point that the pandemic is exaggerated, and was used to control the greater population, and that there were lots of dirty data in some settings is something I not only agree with, but probably know more about than you.

I just get sick of the constant insinuation that the people who i saw struggling to breathe and dying in hospital beds did not die of Covid, and the other insinuation that the good people who worked double shift after double shift to save as many of them as possible were in on some giant healthcare scam bug the SHIT out of me.

I know those nurses.  Including the ones that would not touch the vaccine with a 10 foot pole because of what they saw.

Last time I say it.  Nuance is important.

Nice (false) assumptions.

You set up dash boards which were filled with falsified data and then believe what those dash boards say because you know you set up those dash boards correctly. It should be obvious where your reasoning has failed you Wink
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legendary
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Man who stares at charts (and stars, too...)
Regarding my morning post, i think i want to make clear:

1. the pandemic isn't really over
2. Bitcoin is not dead

It's just that the general public acts otherwise...

Good night  Grin
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Looking at the chart, you can see clear signs of capitulation around the $26K level.  We then immediately saw a dead cat bounce up above $30K.  Personally, I'd like to see another volume spike during a selloff at a higher rate than $26K before I feel like we're out of the woods.  Right now, it still appears we are in a downtrend and so it's this high volume confirmation at a higher low that would signal to me that the market has changed direction.  We are very much still in a bear market that is dropping pretty quickly.  Buying here is that high risk high reward level where you're taking a leap of faith.  I'm not sure I'd want to jump in now, but if we do see that higher low confirmation on a volume spike it would signal that it's time (at least for the traders).   
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All the crypto talks start with BTC and ends with BTC.

It funny that’s how he presenting this to Luna but it really happened and it is truth we have example of it.

BCH, BSV, BTG all tried the same and should I quote the prices too?

BCH $204
BSV $51
BTG $18



https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/1525451351739834370?s=21
legendary
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All this drama and garbage surrounding LUNA and TerraUST, meanwhile exactly zero people can explain to me the purpose, utility or usefulness of either one. Especially when other solutions already exist.

Waiting for Do Kwon himself to come in here and debate me on his garbage coins.

Because he would lose that debate soundly.

The emperor has no clothes, and his size is not size.
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Casual retail investors can't get over the fact one BTC is so much money and doesn't return anything. When they see other coins are cheap and give 10% or 20% in "interest", and can rise in price like crazy.

Of course it always ends in tears...

yeah btc is like a 30 year t-bill with no interest. thus it holds back a lot of investors.
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Casual retail investors can't get over the fact one BTC is so much money and doesn't return anything. When they see other coins are cheap and give 10% or 20% in "interest", and can rise in price like crazy.

Of course it always ends in tears...
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I agree completely. The new investors in the last 2 years failed miserably, with the exception of Michael Saylor. I thought they've learned the lesson after the first crash a year ago. I mean, it took only 3-4 months to return to 65K after the crash to 28K. It was obvious that this price was achievable soon again. Then why should someone sell at 30K? But no, they did it again and again. Not to mention all those "crypto experts" who mocked BTC maximalists. I doubt that they will learn terra's lesson and quit investing in shitcoins. These people think they are smart, but they are not. They rely on their personal experience and achievements, but are not used to doubt every project and the man behind it. The cost of this lesson will be devastating one day.



Meanwhile, only the OG hodlers continue to accumulate silently. They sell only what is needed, when it is needed. The hard thing is to plan and keep the balance between the present needs and the desire to have as much BTC as possible. The inflation is making this task even harder, but even if there are some mistakes on the way, crashes like this can be used to correct them. I'm content with my current balance, but if the bear market brings the price below 25K, I will be even happier to reinvest in BTC for even better balance.

I honestly do not think retail (the masses) were EVER buying seriously since the 2017 runup.  We have seen very little retail action.  I believe there is a growing groundswell of millennial and Gen-Z DCA buyers.  But their footprint is relatively small still.  It will honestly take that groundswell moving into Gen-x and Boomers for it to really start to have an impact.


Even though the dollar value of Bitcoin was larger this time around it was only between 1.x-3 times bigger.  SO we could expect that volume may decrease, but not this much.

The reason for this?  I may have said it too many times, but it is because the big buys that actually DID move the price were happening at OTC desks.  Bitcoin OGs with 5 digits plus of BTC were unloading behind the scenes into the hands of mostly institutional and "home office" investors so they can secure their earthly comfort while holding enough behind to never need to worry.

The masses ONLY were interested in DeFi and NFTs again this time. Bitcoin is "Boomercoin".  Novogratz with his stupid tattoo has the even more permanent imprint of his failure in the record of time.  And now we are the point where the dominoes of all the projects similar to Luna are going to go.  I could be wrong, and instead all the people currently calling for an "altseezon" might be right (so many of these it seems) but if I were a big alt investor I would be looking at my holdings wondering where the disease would show up next, and try to frontrun it.

The easy solution is to just divest the alts and put it in safe investments like gold, silver, land and...  BITCOIN.

As I write this post we are 82 blocks deep in the mempool.


Overwhelmingly large amounts of this are 1s/b transaction.  So either large consolidations or some sort of attack.  I am biased to the former, but the latter is not impossible.  In fact I think we stand a chance to see what started with Luna continue on to the next most vulnerable alt available to the people who stand to make incredible amounts of money orchestrating the attack.

On the other had it seems that if people are actually doing this as a planned attack on "crypto" then they must realize that after a certain number of these failures they will drive an ENORMOUS amount of smarter retail straight into Bitcoin.  All that missing volume that was aimed at monkey  jpegs, dog coins, and various smart contract ponzis will either get out of "crypto" entirely, or run to the safety of hard assets like precious metals, real estate and BITCOIN.  If either by design or by natural forces we see the next alt go down, then the next, then the next...

When do we expect to see the market waking up and abandoning crypto altogether?

I am having a hard time figuring the impact this will have on BTC.  But my gut thinks it could look something like this:

50% - Lower price
30% - Chop
20% - Rocket

Because enough people are going to exit ALL crypto to probably hurt bitcoin's price, or possibly keep it mostly even.  But if humans are smarter than I am giving them credit for in my above estimation then we will see a fire lit under our little rocket.

If your eyes are open you can see that SOMEONE is executing a planned, controlled demolition of western crony-capitalism.  And BITCOIN is either part of that plan or a huge bete-noir for those planners.  I think it is WAY more likely the latter which means they are going to HAVE to try to destroy it or render it somehow neutered.  But we know how this goes.  They can't.

So where do we go next?  Feck if I know.
legendary
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So explain to me again why stonks are less risky than bitcoin?

Here is a sampling of well-known names amid the brutal bloodletting. The percentages are from their highs through the close on May 13:

    Carvana: -90%
    Vroom: -98%
    Rivian: -85%
    Snap: -70%
    Pinterest: -76%
    Netflix: -73%
    Wayfair: -84%
    Chewy: -78%
    Shopify: -77%
    Teladoc: -89%
    Lyft: -77%
    Zoom: -79%
    Palantir: -81%
    GameStop: -80%
    AMC: -84%
    Coinbase: -83%
    Zillow: -81%
    Redfin: -88%
    Compass: -75%
    Opendoor: -82%
    MicroStrategy: -85%
    Robinhood: -87%
    Moderna: -72%
    Beyond Meat: -87%
    Peloton: -90%
    DoorDash: -72%


Bitcoin -58%
legendary
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A Bitcoiner chooses. A slave obeys.
legendary
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All good things to those who wait
I think since it is the weekend this sagging price is not as scary as it might be during the week.  We are starting to clear out the mempool, and as long as we do not re-test that V I think we still have a decent chance.

But it is fairly disappointing that we are not bouncing the way we should be if that V was a bottom...  

I really don't think we can go LOTS lower... and I still hope this is the bottom but it aint acting like it.

However, it is hard to imagine we do not see lots of support for Bitcoin at these prices...  But again the volume DOES scream weekend...

I might regret not leaving myself more $$$ to spend.


I agree completely. The new investors in the last 2 years failed miserably, with the exception of Michael Saylor. I thought they've learned the lesson after the first crash a year ago. I mean, it took only 3-4 months to return to 65K after the crash to 28K. It was obvious that this price was achievable soon again. Then why should someone sell at 30K? But no, they did it again and again. Not to mention all those "crypto experts" who mocked BTC maximalists. I doubt that they will learn terra's lesson and quit investing in shitcoins. These people think they are smart, but they are not. They rely on their personal experience and achievements, but are not used to doubt every project and the man behind it. The cost of this lesson will be devastating one day.



Meanwhile, only the OG hodlers continue to accumulate silently. They sell only what is needed, when it is needed. The hard thing is to plan and keep the balance between the present needs and the desire to have as much BTC as possible. The inflation is making this task even harder, but even if there are some mistakes on the way, crashes like this can be used to correct them. I'm content with my current balance, but if the bear market brings the price below 25K, I will be even happier to reinvest in BTC for even better balance.
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