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BCash is actually lower in price now than it was during the flippening. Everyone should have dumped it back then immediately.

Exactly. I wonder how BCH/BSV holders feel now...

HoDLing BTC, and only BTC, has proven, time and time again, to be the optimal strategy. Simple recipe, few ingredients, great profits, and support for a greater cause. Just add time.
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.
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Bob, i hope this isn't the last time you go down this rabbit hole!
It won't be. Plan to revisit in at least another 18 months.

#LNMETA

Some more thoughts on being a top 250 LND node op... Again...

- This was a good learning experience, compared to my first experience of needing to hand-roll all the LND/c-lightning stuff from source, and compile bitcoind with zmq support. Throwing A LOT more liquidity at it this time really helped me get a sense of what it takes to be a big boi on the Lightning Network

- Learned more about the "quantum" state of liquidity. Eg: LOOP experiments draining my liquidity, putting in a "quantum state", where I can't regain that bound liquidity for use, until I wrap everything up via "lncli closeallchannels" sorta deal

- Avoid LOOP. It's a liquidity drain, and pure profit chasing - Opened 3 wumbo channels with LOOP before I learned my lesson of avoiding them entirely. Was pissed off all that liquidity was lost to me in "quantum space"

- Many nodes are parasites (like LOOP) - They will drain all your liquidity to their side, and nothing flows back your way in some cases (ln.nicehash), to even get you back into organic balance. LOOP being the most egregious, because they will just close your channel on you when they've sucked enough liquidity out of you, and don't even have the fucking decency to leave the channel open, for you to recoup routes back your way. Pure vampirism and it disgusts me.

- Was very impressed with Umbrel. Was a bit disappointed to learn about the apparent background drama of Umbrel pretty much being a clone of another popular distro (RaspiBlitz?) but they've really added a good layer of polish onto node distros, and love the ability to reset your node back to it's "last good known state" just by entering your Umbrel seed words.

- With the increased popularity of Umbrel, and other very well maintained node distros, Lightning looks like it's really shaping up well in terms of "now everyone can run a server" - It's as simple as getting a Raspi4, a 2TB SSD drive, half a brain, and you can start having fun dipping your toes into Lightning, pretty safely and cheaply.

- Rebalancing: Absolute nightmare. After further consideration, with Rick having looked over the scripts, and understanding the nature of what it's doing and the problems that need to be solved, it's not an easy problem, mostly owing to the constantly fluctuating state of the network.

 Every channel you are trying to rebalance has to get tested across MANY routes. Some of them good, some of them bad. Due to a function of how the LN works, you *HAVE* to check every node, on every route, every time - and there are A LOT of bad nodes out there that are not responsive, and the rebalancers don't remember the state of which nodes are bad, when balancing from one channel to the next one, because - well, the nodes could have popped back up again since you last checked - Needs more logic for how to handle "bad" peers organically. The onus is on the person running the script, to exclude nodes to check, and when you have 100+ channels, fuck that hand-management reconciliation noise.

- I was definitely chasing profits. This is what was leading to the stress in my life, overall, and it was starting to impact me in meatspace pretty badly. I'm not satisfied "just leaving" something to run. If I'm going to run a node, I'm going to be an active manager, and look at this like getting into mining for profit. Don't have any interest in passively running a LN node. I'm either going to do it right, or not at all. Chasing LN node profits was more frustrating than running a mining farm - A comparative cakewalk.

- Meatspace is becoming increasingly complex for me for a little bit, and running the node was becoming negative energy, that I am desperately seeking to rid my life of, at this stage.

- Torque basically summed it up best
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I would merit shower hisslyness…

But a user can only send 50 merit/30 days to one single person….
At this point for the moment….

Cheers Smiley

I tossed him 10

Thanks everyone! Really appreciate it, i am just happy to be able to contribute!!

I started going down this Bitcoin path alone back in late 2013, as everyone i knew thought i was nuts!!... and i am still somewhat alone...

However, I am glad i found this place!

Can you provide some overview of your backstory?  I cannot recall it.  Did you start by mining or buying or some other way? Of course, no need to jeopardize Opsec.. so feel free to include a bit of creativity to the extent you feel helpful.  

Your timeline is similar to mine.. so with me, I had some spark under my butt starting in July/August/September 2013 in terms of researching into some various kinds of ways of investing.. and so I had tabbed bitcoin somewhere in that process as "something to look at later," so in late 2013, I had already taken some actions regarding some other investments - which caused me even greater relief that I had gotten that part off of my plate.. so bitcoin remained "tabbed" as something to get to.. but not really thinking too much about it..


..... until around the middle of November 2013.. this very young chap online (not in this forum) was bragging how smart he was because he was largely becoming rich from his bitcoin investment.. and I thought that he does not know what the fuck he is talking about.. but it triggered me to look into my bitcoin related bookmarks that were still sitting there... so several hours of initially looking into some of the overview information that I had and then I ended up spending several days reading more and then engaged in a kind of reconsideration of what I had invested into in the previous couple of months.. and my research/investigation started me to think:
.. "hm?  I should have put that just invested money into bitcoin.. bitcoin would serve as a better investment hedge than some of the various low-fee funds that I had chosen.".. ..

which thereby triggered me into coming up with a 6-month BTC investment plan.. and I already posted quite a bit about those various aspects of my early execution of my bitcoin investment plan... so I don't want to trigger too much repetition backlash at this moment... unless anyone asks any specific questions of me..


and I guess part of my compare/contrast attempt with you hisslyness seems to be that I had never really been much into any of the technical aspects such as getting into mining or running nodes and things like that.. but I surely cannot fault anyone from either taking those kinds of routes (and especially the running node does seem like something that a lot of us should be considering whether bitcoin/lightning network or both) or even exploring some of the frustrating parts of maintaining lighting channels.. which for sure would have taken off more as a practice (topic) in recent times - even though the earliest of the brave lighting folks would have been involved in lightning network testnet in 2017 and maybe even getting involved in lightning going live (against the recommendation of a lot of BTC developers) in early 2018- which a lot of that I have so far been exploring from quite a distance even though I find it interesting that guys like you are here and spending some time to share information and experiences with others in this thread about some of those intricacies.. and sometimes even frustrations around learning about those angles of bitcoin..

To really understand my back-story and understand why I did what I did to ultimately land in the position I am in, you have to go way back to my childhood.

I grew with computers around me, had our first 386 when I was 10 years old. This was a big deal, Mum new we needed exposure as this was the way of the future!  She worked and saved and finally bought our first computer!... We stayed up all night playing lemmings...

Fast forward a few more years and my brothers and I started our own business (Wasn’t a real incorporated business, if you know what I mean?), re-selling, servicing and repairing computers. This was great as it gave us access to new hardware and software and the ability to tinker and play! I learnt so much from those years!

When the internet finally arrived here! Did that changed everything! Access to a whole new world!

While some experimented with drugs, I experimented with Tech! Most people where using Windows, I was dabbling with Linux of all flavours and a little known operating system called BeOS.  (i’d seen a post on it here a few pages back and it reminded me) . Never really played with OS/2 as for some reason I couldn’t get my hands on it!

I always had a saying, understand the Core Fundamentals of IT, and it doesn’t matter what they bring out, you will master it! As it is mostly based around those Core Fundamentals!



How did Bitcoin find me? or rather how did I find Bitcoin?

August 2013 was an eye opener, I'd stumble upon Bitcoin while researching for another project. I glanced over the white paper, but me being me, I needed hands on experience to fully understand it! Mining, what is mining? So many questions and always the same explanations... solving equations... I thought bullshit that can’t be right...

On and off through the 2013. Experimenting with CPU and GPU mining and understanding what was really going on under the hood.

Finally decided I was going to mine Bitcoin at a larger scale. I had a plan and it seemed rock solid! Tried to get some friends involved but they looked at me like I was nuts!

Worst timing as well. Bitcoin was making new ATH and the pricing of second hand mining equipment keep going up with it! I finally picked up some ASIC machines at the Mid January 2014.

Made some mistakes, bought 3 x CoinTerra TerraMiners, all with overheating issues! Spent countless hours trying to fix its faulty water cooler system!  I think the Antminer S1 and S2 saved my arse from total failure!

My calculations were projecting one thing and my results were saying another thing!

As the saying goes, during a gold rush, the only people who made money were the ones selling the picks and shovels. Let me tell you what, I fully understand that!

I hope the back-story above explains why I didn’t just buy Bitcoin with the money I had invested in ASIC machines/Running Cost and Infrastructure to go with it. Would I have been better off, Yes, but if you live your life always wondering what if, you’ll end up regretting everything you do!

Ultimately the knowledge I gained is priceless.

On another note, equal respect given, JayJuanGee, tech or no tech! It is amazing how we have both taken different paths, but ended up with similar outcomes and conclusions!

That’s my story!.. Hopefully my OpSec is safe!..
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I went down this journey to better understand LN from a technical point of view, not from a Bob and Alice simple view, but under the hood, how channels are opened and closed. How payment routing really works. I almost got lost and threw the towel in after the 1st week, but then remembered why I chose to run a LN node.

#LNMETA

These two lines summaries it in a perfect way... same thing happened to me thank you for explaining it in an excellent simple way for us like Bobs and Alices !
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I would merit shower hisslyness…

But a user can only send 50 merit/30 days to one single person….
At this point for the moment….

Cheers Smiley

I tossed him 10

Thanks everyone! Really appreciate it, i am just happy to be able to contribute!!

I started going down this Bitcoin path alone back in late 2013, as everyone i knew thought i was nuts!!... and i am still somewhat alone...

However, I am glad i found this place!

This! We are still damn early guys... Cool
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-"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
UN police ?  what are you smoking? green guys are usually the SQ (Quebec provincial police), in that video just seems like the fully kitted out Ottawa police judging by the accent.  They didnt even used tear gas.
They pepper sprayed some people and said "sorry we had to use pepperspray".
They seperated protesters with the cavalry slowly and people just stood there, like yeah good luck holding the line against a horse.

This was the nicest and most patient protest busting action i've seen, ever.

For reference, this is what they usually do in Canada: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8lB9ThlZLg or https://youtu.be/YVU4lt5xk1A?t=69
oh and tons of tear gas and rubber bullets.  good memories.

It's always good to know that we are at a point in our world when peaceful protests have an expiration date. A week or two at most, before the establishment comes in and says "Ok wrap it up, time to arrest you now without cause or provocation. Or beat you. Or pepper spray you. Or both. Whatever it takes. But your sorry little protest is over now because we say so." And nothing ever changes.

But we're still a democracy though. /s

Ah, the warm feels. Hope you guys can sleep soundly knowing that protests will achieve fuck all from now on. Just like voting.

There is a big difference between disagreeing with peaceful protesters demands and supporting government action to silence them, to me it's the difference between working democracy and bootlickers allowing fascism.
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I would merit shower hisslyness…

But a user can only send 50 merit/30 days to one single person….
At this point for the moment….

Cheers Smiley

I tossed him 10

Thanks everyone! Really appreciate it, i am just happy to be able to contribute!!

I started going down this Bitcoin path alone back in late 2013, as everyone i knew thought i was nuts!!... and i am still somewhat alone...

However, I am glad i found this place!

Can you provide some overview of your backstory?  I cannot recall it.  Did you start by mining or buying or some other way? Of course, no need to jeopardize Opsec.. so feel free to include a bit of creativity to the extent you feel helpful.  

Your timeline is similar to mine.. so with me, I had some spark under my butt starting in July/August/September 2013 in terms of researching into some various kinds of ways of investing.. and so I had tabbed bitcoin somewhere in that process as "something to look at later," so in late 2013, I had already taken some actions regarding some other investments - which caused me even greater relief that I had gotten that part off of my plate.. so bitcoin remained "tabbed" as something to get to.. but not really thinking too much about it..


..... until around the middle of November 2013.. this very young chap online (not in this forum) was bragging how smart he was because he was largely becoming rich from his bitcoin investment.. and I thought that he does not know what the fuck he is talking about.. but it triggered me to look into my bitcoin related bookmarks that were still sitting there... so several hours of initially looking into some of the overview information that I had and then I ended up spending several days reading more and then engaged in a kind of reconsideration of what I had invested into in the previous couple of months.. and my research/investigation started me to think:
.. "hm?  I should have put that just invested money into bitcoin.. bitcoin would serve as a better investment hedge than some of the various low-fee funds that I had chosen.".. ..

which thereby triggered me into coming up with a 6-month BTC investment plan.. and I already posted quite a bit about those various aspects of my early execution of my bitcoin investment plan... so I don't want to trigger too much repetition backlash at this moment... unless anyone asks any specific questions of me..


and I guess part of my compare/contrast attempt with you hisslyness seems to be that I had never really been much into any of the technical aspects such as getting into mining or running nodes and things like that.. but I surely cannot fault anyone from either taking those kinds of routes (and especially the running node does seem like something that a lot of us should be considering whether bitcoin/lightning network or both) or even exploring some of the frustrating parts of maintaining lighting channels.. which for sure would have taken off more as a practice (topic) in recent times - even though the earliest of the brave lighting folks would have been involved in lightning network testnet in 2017 and maybe even getting involved in lightning going live (against the recommendation of a lot of BTC developers) in early 2018- which a lot of that I have so far been exploring from quite a distance even though I find it interesting that guys like you are here and spending some time to share information and experiences with others in this thread about some of those intricacies.. and sometimes even frustrations around learning about those angles of bitcoin..
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