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"Trust the science", they say?

Well "the science" shows that a vaxxed and an unvaxxed person can carry and spread the CV19 virus equally just as well. And a vaxxed person can still contract the virus at a later point. In fact, there is a very good chance that a vaxxed person would likely contract the virus from another vaxxed "asymptomatic carrier" around them, who is more likely to break social distancing rules because of a false sense of trust and supposed minimal symptoms.

So if they feel protected, I'm still left wondering why the vaxxed care so fkn much about what the unvaxxed do again?

I've even seen a vaccinated person who claims to understand "the science" take a step back from someone who said "I had Covid, but I'm fine now because I have natural immunity!" Talk about fkn delusional behavior.

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Wow "antivaxxers"? How were you in Bitcoin early if you are such a speak, obediently parotting the newspeak of the state media?

No-one here is an anti-vaxxer (sic, as the retarded spelling is all yours) I hope. "We" are specifically against these vaccines because they are 1. Against a non-dangerous desease (comparable to a seasonal influenza outbreak) and 2. Insufficiently tested and rushed.

You likely agree with this, or were you taking the yearly flu shot before? (unless you are weak of course).

Furthermore, vaccinating the population during an active outbreak (which you advocate were in n'est-ce pas?) is a deadsin as any immunologist knows this stimulates virus to mutate and actually become dangerous. They all know this. If you don't believe me go read a random contingency plan for pandemics that predate Covid-19 (I can confirm the Brittish one explicitly states to not vaccinate during an active outbreak for this reason).

I have to laugh hearing about people not wanting to experiment with untested drugs (vaccines)

Hell the previous generation experimented with every drug available, taking risks magnitudes greater than those of untested vaccines.

Sounds like many on WO still do, just to make sure, to make sure.

A good read Alexander Shulgin - Phenethylamines I have known and loved.

I take psilocybin from fungi twice a year to combat depression. It's like taking a vacation, leaving me refreshed and free to face the world without the zombie fallout doctor prescribed pills give.

It's the old confusion of science and research.
Research takes risks, science avoids them.
I'm not antivaxx, but i feel ike mass vaccination's goal is mainly to save our sick fiat-based economy from its own faults.
I would never blame anybody for getting vaxxed.


This is smoldering within all kind of communities and societies since the beginning of the Covid shitshow.
Worldwide, politicians fucked up, from "it's just a flu" to "billions of dead citizens" and resulting control measures, the ongoing media clusterfucks...
Now all they can do to cover their complete failing is to incite us to argue and fight against each other, which always worked in history, and so it does now.
Coronavirus management failed. Geopolitical consensus could have choked out the pandemic pretty soon, now the virus is spreading and mutating across all cultures and continents, which will make current vaccines more or less useless over time. We're always one step behind, because we didn't make the collective step ahead.
The story is far from over and vaccines are of temporary help, with yet unknown costs.

What hurt them most is (apart from losing contract) there was no formal discussion on deal cancellation and Australia notified them just before the announcement, like 1 hour or so lol. Literally no one see that coming even Australian ministers.

Nah, I think it's just much needed catharsis for some. I get it. I am the clear outlier of the family, and am well prepared for violent opposition, when it comes to a difference of opinion.

All I can do is state my case, based on best information I have available to me, and walk away to continue living my life if people disagree with me, or find what I have to say as going against their programming.

Very sad times.

It's the classic problem of leading a horse to a stream, but being unable to get it to drink the fucking water.

Stupid animals, I'll tell you hwat...

You are right, and for years this has been a reliable indicator.

As much as I would love your follow, I am honestly not terribly interesting on twitter, and I do respect your opsec, frustrating as it may be considering what I know about myself lol.

Seems like some serious stress building within WO.

In Darwin just before Monsoon season breaks the extreme heat and humidity causes the inhabitants much grief and short tempers, they call this going troppo.
When the first storm breaks and brings some relief tempers cool people dance in the rain.

Hopefully we are soon to get that relief.

Set the controls for the heart of the sun. 

So would you say we should "trust the science"?

I have two things to say about that.

1.  THERE IS VERY LITTLE SCIENCE!  This is why sensible people might take a position of caution about experimental drug released in haste to fight a virus with an EXTREMELY HIGH survival rate.  Calling these people "anti-vaxxers" is a strawman, as is implying they are anti-science, or saying they are "afraid of science".

2.  "Trust the science" (which you did not explicitly say, but was the basic message of your tone) may be the single least science-positive slogan I could imagine. 

Science, by it's core ethos, DEMANDS you not trust it.

ALMOST hit the follow button.

Can't break my OpSec... on purpose at least 

I agree.  And I am aware that there are lot's of non mRNA vaccines available.  But at least in the short term they have also had more side effects.

I am hoping I get the famous testicle swelling just so I can prance around saying "look at THIS" to my wife...  But c'est la vie!   One cannot pick one's side effects.

I think the trend towards mandates and "passports" is a draconian atrocity. But as with most things my personal position on the vaccine (and virus) is fairly nuanced.  I have mentioned in the past i work for a very large hospital system.  I designed the registration front end for our (several) vaccine clinics back in late '20-21.  It was special because it was designed to allow extremely fast and LOW information registration for the patients.  After we got it all working, I volunteered in the vaccine clinics which, in the beginning, were ONLY giving vaccines to the MOST vulnerable population.

I watched thousands of 70+ year old people come to the clinic to get the vaccine along with certain other vulnerable folks (and there were exactly zero reactions that I saw).  It was emotionally moving.  Many of these elderly folk had not been out of their house in about a year.  And I will never forget one old man.  He hobbled up to the counter to check in for his appointment and thanked the registrars for doing this.  He was weeping when he said he believed it would mean he should be able to safely hug his grandchildren again.

Was/is the vaccine really needed? Safe? A big psyop? I don't honestly know.  But I still felt like I was taking part in something historic.  Some here will see me as some misguided part of the whole machine.  That's ok.  Other assholes will lump me into their 2 dimensional view of what they think is a libertarian, which I am more or less.  

And I believe the vaccine is probably a good thing overall.  And a significant risk we are taking.  And I believe the governments of the world are acting in concert to destroy our liberties and remake the world in a way I truly hope fails.

Damn... balls still the same size.

Not antivaxxer but not in favor of forced vaccination.

Who could have thought so many woers/bitcoiners are in fact antivaxxers? Guys you do sound like you're from the 19th century. Science gave us BTC and so it gave us vaccines. No need to be afraid of science. Most of the poor antivaxxer guys have been brainwashed by the youtube videos and questionable news sites. Lots of people are going to die because of this.  

Yes there are side effects. Every vaccine has them. Thrombosys, myocarditis etc all are extremely rare. Like really really rare 3 people out of 1 million. Vaccines are like that - somebody's child (or parent) will die a painful death. But billions will be protected from the virus. It's the price we have to pay...    

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Nah I'm good, if you can't take it don't dish it out or whatever. I quite enjoy it

Seesh, my bad, i thought YOU were leaving.

Way more succinct compared to my babbling...

Good riddance or no? Make up your mind damnit!