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So who thinks those chinese miners are the ones attacking Wrongs shitcoin? Cheesy

Which one(s) (shitcoin/s) are they attacking, and how do you know?

It appears the winds have changed... same signs that I have been seeing for downity conditions are absolutely 100% reversed. We could be in for a big spike upward in the next couple hours...

You believe that such a thing happens so quickly?

Take for example our correction to $3,124 in November 2018 (sure I appreciate that we are not exactly in the same place but similar short-term principles/dynamics could apply?).  I recall that we got stuck in mid-to-upper $3ks for several months, but then the move from $3.8k to $4.2k took about the whole month of March to play out before our April 1 break out that ended up lasting for three months and brought us a 3.5x.

So, sure the dynamics could be different here because one thing is trying to break above $40k or is it $43k or is it $46k in order to get the sense that we are returning UPpity, but then we end up running into a new question in terms of whether there is going to be some sticking points - and surely many of us would be flabbergasted by anything close to a 3x or more price run, even if it took 3 months to play out.. but of course, reaching all new time highs would have its own kind of self-fueling effect, presuming that we could first get some of the momentum to get above the first resistance points in the $40ks - wherever that break might be.

I guess the most imortant question now is are we in a bear market?

Seems too early to come to that conclusion, even if it might end up being true.. and even if the odds seem to be against it..


And if so, for how long we will be there, before starting to climb up to the last ATH and break it?

A bear market would presume end of the cycle... and so I surely am not willing to call a correction a bear market unless this thing takes a couple of years or more to play out to get us back to ATHs.... so it still is going to depend upon how low we go and how long we stay there before a bear market would correctly label where we are currently at.

If the trend changes in the next few weeks, I guess it won't be right to call it a bear market but rather a transition/recovery period from Elon&China FUD (actually they are the same, since there is leaked information that CCP is investing in Tesla and wants Elon to ban Bitcoin).


Even that kind of a scenario (of a correction lasting less than 4 months) would likely rise to the level of something that would compare less severe (relatively speaking) than our 2013 mid-year price lull period, even though it might feel more dramatic and drastic for some of us while actually going through it, rather than looking at the other one on the historical charts.


In 2017 we had 3 such periods. The first in the winter - about 1 month, the second in the summer - about 2 months and the third in the autumn - about 1 month.

Of course, none of them were in the 50% correction territory.. but at least they were in the midst of a price rise, so probably goes to show that it remains difficult to compare any two periods - even though the comparisons can give us some ideas of whether what we are experiencing is relatively more or less severe and if it might be feasible to go up from here rather than conceding that our direction would inevitably end up down rather than up.


So it is a bit early to tell if the current period is like an extended version of 2017's sideway periods. I guess, however, that if this period extends over 6 months, then we can hardly deny we've entered some kind of a bear market. Time will tell, I guess.

Sure, likely you are correct that if we end up in 6 months of either down or sideways, we may well have to reconsider where we are at - and even right now, we are still only two months into the down than then mostly moving in a $30k to $42k range (and one, so far) bounce below $30k.... so even revisiting sub $30k again may well tell us that this correction is NOT over.. even if it has been about 3 weeks since we even saw sub $30k... .. but of course, can't be counting our chickens before they hatch and we remain in sub $30k striking distance, for sure.. which is currently causing me to be looking at supra $40k in order to feel comfort, and probably $46k plus would cause me to start to gain high levels of confidence and perhaps even stick out my tongue... with an under the breath proclamation that the "bottom is in"
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Lots of respected peeps predicting a breakout this coming week. We’ve been in a tight range for a significant time now. What do you think guys, bears on toast or a big dump?
We might see normal pumps in the market and then breakthrough in prices with nominal range of $32k-$37k and till that bears can enjoy toast but the ignition is being powered to bull run start and with next month start this barrier will be crossed and $40k levels would be crossed and bears will burn their toast so waiting for that period.

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Lots of respected peeps predicting a breakout this coming week. We’ve been in a tight range for a significant time now. What do you think guys, bears on toast or a big dump?

Would love to see those Bitfinex shorters get rekt.

the up ⬆️ to the 🔝 will start around august 9th.

I expect to be celebrating both my 35th wedding anniversary and 50k. On that same day.
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Lots of respected peeps predicting a breakout this coming week. We’ve been in a tight range for a significant time now. What do you think guys, bears on toast or a big dump?

Would love to see those Bitfinex shorters get rekt.
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It appears the winds have changed... same signs that I have been seeing for downity conditions are absolutely 100% reversed. We could be in for a big spike upward in the next couple hours...
Short Term:
A LOT more resistance around $33,700-$33,850 than I was expecting (ChartBuddy called it but I wasn'ttaking his wise counsel), but the strong upward push is still there. Once it breaks through I expect a hard fast climb to near $35k. But I don't think there's enough momentum to break that $35k wall and I expect it'll bounce hard off of it.

Long Term:
I still think we're going to need to do a quick dip down the $25k-26.5k to pick up the momentum for a parabolic uppity climb to the $45k range. Once we see that the bulls will run. If we don't get that dip, then we're probably stuck in the $31k-$35k sideways action for a couple more months before taking a more measured upward course to peak out in ATH's in mid December. I certainly don't think we'll see anything as drastic as 5he $20k murmuring that's been going around (at least I hope not!) because, if I understand correctly, a lot of big institutions got in around the $24.5k-$25k range, and a fall below that level could cause new weak kneed but very large investors to dump stop loss sales and could truly leave us lost in bear country.
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https://medium.com/blockstream-markets-weekly/blockstream-markets-weekly-july-9-2021-47e38d292075

- $55B Marshall Wace prepares BTC fund
- Square plans hardware wallet
- exchanges pinched by regulators
- China eyes stablecoins
- volatility contracts
- and mining profitability soars as the BMN kicks off mining
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
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Cant someone warn him ? Admin? Talking about a fcking shitcoin here

ITS BITCOIN RELATED HERE BRUHHHHH GO TO A OTHER FORUM OR DISCUSSION HuhHuh?

I say give him a ban talking about tron

i just have him on ignore.
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I guess the most imortant question now is are we in a bear market? And if so, for how long we will be there, before starting to climb up to the last ATH and break it? If the trend changes in the next few weeks, I guess it won't be right to call it a bear market but rather a transition/recovery period from Elon&China FUD (actually they are the same, since there is leaked information that CCP is investing in Tesla and wants Elon to ban Bitcoin). In 2017 we had 3 such periods. The first in the winter - about 1 month, the second in the summer - about 2 months and the third in the autumn - about 1 month. So it is a bit early to tell if the current period is like an extended version of 2017's sideway periods. I guess, however, that if this period extends over 6 months, then we can hardly deny we've entered some kind of a bear market. Time will tell, I guess.

No we are not in a classical bear market

"this time is different"


anyone mining the coin outside of China is earning as much fiat as they were in May when coin was near 64k

So for instance my farm has 1700 th when the diff was at 25.04 the farm made 1700 x .00000475 = 0.008075 btc a day about 516 usd I can not recall the exact number

the farm made 1700 x 0.00000879 = 0.014943 btc a day or 505 usd a day.

So for my mining ops I make almost 2x the btc and just amount the exact same in fiat /usd = bullish

Now for my holdings they are losing value = bearish


this is a mixed market for me.

and for everyone mining coin to make wealth they are not in a bear.

for pure traders I say it is a bear.

and for everyone "this time is different." = true

Doe it mean an explosive spike up and over 70k in the fall I hope so.  but remember this 1 btc = 1btc

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/19oNXtgrEX9Lt6c7w3XXAxAWR2T7Ff7CiC.

Still true and has been true since btc was invented.
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Do you believe in miracles?



Gold is limited and you have to look for it; Bitcoin is the most amazing mathematical miracle. I do not invest in Bitcoin, but I believe in it for the future ”, he commented during his presentation at the Talent Land Jalisco 2021.

He doesn't need to invest. He's already "fuck-you" rich. It's good that he spreads the word.

Do you think he would have not invested in bitcoin ?  He just can't say that he is invested in bitcoin because then it would mean that Apple has invested in bitcoin. Many big players does not want to become highlighted or controversial like Elon Musk etc
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https://decrypt.co/75686/bogdanoff-twins-claim-they-helped-invent-bitcoin

Bogdanoff Twins Claim They Helped Invent Bitcoin
The bizarre statements follow a running gag that the 71-year-old twin brothers control the crypto markets...and the world.
By Ekin Genç
4 min read
Jul 11, 2021

In brief
  • Igor and Grichka Bogdanoff claim they knew about Satoshi Nakamoto through a Japanese scientist and influenced Bitcoin’s development.
  • The bold claims come years after being subject to a long-running gag in crypto that portray them as omnipotent market forces.
  • French TV personalities and former theoretical physicists Igor and Grichka Bogdanoff claim they knew of Bitcoin inventor Satoshi Nakamoto and were involved with the creation of the cryptocurrency.

“Igor and I, as mathematicians, were able to participate in the elaboration of some of the source code, especially the ‘predictive code’,” said Grichka Bogdanoff on French TV show Non Stop People on July 1, who expanded on his claims on L'Heure des Pros on July 7.

In the early 90s, the two brothers said they worked with François Mizzi, the inventor of the touchscreen, whose lab included a Japanese scientist, Soïtchiro Shimoda, who was “someone close to the mythical person or a group of people” called Nakamoto. The Bogdanoff twins said they would often discuss ideas about a digital currency with Shimoda, though they didn’t specify any details.

What if Satoshi Nakamoto suddenly returned?
His return is imperceptible, at first a faint rumour in some dark reach of the web. A lone cybersecurity researcher uncovers curious activity on a long-dormant Bitcoin wallet, unused since 201...

The Bogdanoff twins also claimed that Nakamoto gave them two “ancient Bitcoins” in “physical form” when Bitcoin was created in 2008.

Hellmouth Banner, editor-in-chief of French crypto media outlet Journal du Coin, told Decrypt that these claims should be taken with a pinch of salt since, “in terms of credibility, [the twins] are equivalent to a scientific version of the Kardashian family.”

Who are Grichka and Igor Bogdanoff?
Physicists by training, the Bogdanoff twins rose to prominence in France as hosts of science education show XTemps during the 80s. These days, they're treated as socialites rather than scientists.

“Their atypical look and their often offbeat and original statements make them good recruits to attract audiences,” Banner said. They have been the subject of many controversies over the years, including disputes about the veracity of their academic credentials and a recent court case alleging that they scammed a bipolar millionaire.

Despite the bold claims about their involvement with Bitcoin, the twins’ passing mention of their investment in Ethereum has attracted even more attention.

There is, after all, a long-standing meme that the twins are able to control the market.

The rise of a conspiracy-meme
The brothers became a running gag in crypto following a series of parody videos in 2018 by the YouTube channel Bizonacci, which portrayed the Bogdanoffs as omnipotent market actors who conspire against an average crypto trader.

“Get Vitalik on the line,” one Bogdanoff orders in the video. “Pump Ethereum for two hours and then wake him up,” he tells an obeying Vitalik Buterin, Ethereum’s co-founder. Once the trader FOMOs into Ethereum, Bogdanoff orders the market to crash, and it crashes.

The popularity of the Bogdanoff meme follows an online trend that began in 2015 when a Reddit user posted a photo of the twins in the subreddit r/wtf, with the title “How do they think is attractive?!” in reference to what looks like botched plastic surgery.

In 2017, an anonymous 4chan user posted a made-up list of conspiracy theories about the Bogdanoff brothers, such as direct contact with aliens, the ability to control the French prime minister and “evidence which suggests that the Rothschilds are operating under their supervision.”

The conspiracy meme was best captured by a photo of Grichka Bogdanoff speaking on the phone. And that photo, said the Bogdanoff twins on July 1, will become an NFT soon.

"It is probably Nakamoto who made [the photo] circulate,” Igor Bogdanoff nonchalantly suggested. That photo was “in all blockchains between 2010-2012,” and it’s been downloaded more than 1.3 billion times, he claimed.

“Anyone with two hours of crypto culture can see that it's a bunch of improvised nonsense,” said Banner. But the Bogdanoffs have access to the entire Parisian intelligentsia, he added, so if they were to launch a crypto project, it could well be a success.

During the interviews, the Bogdanoff twins also announced they would launch a cryptocurrency called Exo-Coin. They didn’t share details, but if the conspiracy theories are anything to go by, the mighty Bogdanoffs will force their way to victory.

Andreas Tsamados and Jefferson Kernel contributed to this report.
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I'll join in on the price speculation.
I think we are in for at least another month of sideways, the "up" won't start in earnest until September, the top will come in December.
Just my 10 cents.
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...and it just keeps getting better!  Relief for hodlers!

https://scitechdaily.com/psychedelic-drug-psilocybin-magic-mushrooms-spurs-growth-of-neural-connections-lost-in-depression/

'In a new study, Yale researchers show that a single dose of psilocybin given to mice prompted an immediate and long-lasting increase in connections between neurons. The findings are published today (July 5, 2021) in the journal Neuron.
“We not only saw a 10% increase in the number of neuronal connections, but also they were on average about 10% larger, so the connections were stronger as well,” said Yale’s Alex Kwan, associate professor of psychiatry and of neuroscience and senior author of the paper.
Previous laboratory experiments had shown promise that psilocybin, as well as the anesthetic ketamine, can decrease depression. The new Yale research found that these compounds increase the density of dendritic spines, small protrusions found on nerve cells which aid in the transmission of information between neurons. Chronic stress and depression are known to reduce the number of these neuronal connections.'


These 2 stories are actually very well interconnected. Studies have shown that in about 80% of cases studied, psilocybin administered in a heavy dosage (I think it was 2.5 micrograms per 10lbs body weight, but I'd have to look it up) Anyway 8 out of 10 cases were completely cured of all alcohol & nicotine addiction. It was left as an open question as to whether other drug addictions would show similar results because they were careful to screen out any drug addicts to avoid possibly contaminating the other aspects of the studies findings. Those subjects who had positive results were also found to be 1 magnitude higher in trait openness even 18 months later, and all considered the experience to have been the most sacred experience of their lifetimes. However only 20% expressed any desire to ever repeat the experience. (This was part of a discussion on a podcast with Jordan Peterson)

 Damn!  You had me right up until Jordan Peterson.


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Its not a retreat when your surrounded, your just attacking in a different direction. Smiley

Semper Fi

Non sibi sed patriae. Semper fortis.

So, Swedish marines doesn't have a motto, but something our officers would always say, to the point where it was almost a de facto motto was "solen skiner alltid på en kustartillerist (ambifiesoldat). (the sun always shine on a Marine).
Google translate seems to have problems with the word "marinsoldat" (marine soldier) so I tried sea soldier. Since I don't speak latin I don't know how correct this is, but here we go. Latin speakers feel free to correct.

Sol lucet mare militem semper
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Virgin female cannabis = sinsemilla. Later to be used with Pink Floyd albums and Doritos.

wow does that bring back memories. Animals (the pink floyd album) and sinse.. wadda combo for a weed noober like me back then. i still get head rushes on that.



Yup, I remember that shit back in the day. thought it was a different strain like tie weed.

Heh, me too, though i'm a bit younger than you. I was an early starter, despite my upper middle class parental background.
Mum'n Dad always told me to stay away from "the bums", but they were a dozen times more straightforward than what i knew from my family with the inbred stick-up-the-butt "syndrome"  Roll Eyes

EDIT: So if my children are buttstickers as welll when they will be grown-ups, i probably deserve it this way. But i already have an exit plan for living at the outer border of society when it's due.

Living on society's border is a young mans game, when you get old you need easy access to health care and food and such, but living on the border, maybe somewhere the boonies, when you are young is boring, unless you are the unabomber.
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I guess the most imortant question now is are we in a bear market? And if so, for how long we will be there, before starting to climb up to the last ATH and break it? If the trend changes in the next few weeks, I guess it won't be right to call it a bear market but rather a transition/recovery period from Elon&China FUD (actually they are the same, since there is leaked information that CCP is investing in Tesla and wants Elon to ban Bitcoin). In 2017 we had 3 such periods. The first in the winter - about 1 month, the second in the summer - about 2 months and the third in the autumn - about 1 month. So it is a bit early to tell if the current period is like an extended version of 2017's sideway periods. I guess, however, that if this period extends over 6 months, then we can hardly deny we've entered some kind of a bear market. Time will tell, I guess.
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Many good movie suggestions lately, thanks for posting, will watch them later.
Right now started watching the rest of "the expanse". Only watched four episodes before and then I had other things to do.

But yesterday I watched this little gem from 1941 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfgUW16drxk "Stridsvagnsanfall" ("tank attack").
It's a Swedish propaganda/information film from WW2 showing an attack to breach the enemy lines and securing the area.
No subtitles unfortunately, but in short he says "the enemy lines will be hit by artillery to kill and shock the enemy to inaction, then the infantry will break through the breach and and secure it, a smoke screen on both sides will protect the tanks from sight as the drive through and clean up behind enemy lines. They will then stop at the beginning of the woods in hedgehog formation for defense and await the infantry. When the infantry catches up and have secured the area, the tanks refuel, rearm and move on to new missions."

Some rare footage of tanks and infantry transport vehicles from that era.
We see strv m/40 (Landsverk L-60-S) and 37 mm pvkan m/38 (Bofors towed AT gun) and German made Tempo Vidal cars, a weird car with two engines, one in the front for the front wheels and one in the back for the rear wheels, this gave it a weird but functional four wheel drive.

Strv m/40 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnY_78fU95U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I0vbAu7Jzg

Tempo Vidal geländewagen https://youtu.be/Nua6zt84hlM?t=345

Enjoy.

Edit. The march is Skaraborgs Regementes Marsch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpQx0BpXNiY

We also see the B-force ("enemy") using double decker dive bombers.

I think you forgot one:
Olof Palme Kommando - Trailer  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofgAZbADVRU


Inspired by the "Bitcoin sideways" movie suggestions, some classics:
The Wild Bunch  https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065214/
Brother  https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0222851/
Unforgiven  https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105695/
Battle Royale  https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0266308/

Thank you, that was a true piece of art, I really hope they make a full movie.
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