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Virgin female cannabis = sinsemilla. Later to be used with Pink Floyd albums and Doritos.

wow does that bring back memories. Animals (the pink floyd album) and sinse.. wadda combo for a weed noober like me back then. i still get head rushes on that.



Yup, I remember that shit back in the day. thought it was a different strain like tie weed.

@Heuristic Hueristic that's actually "Thai" weed (from Thailand). I thought it was "tie" for a long time because of "Thai sticks" we had. Little bundles of bud tied onto a little stick. This was years and years before any form of the internet, we just learned all the words audibly as we heard them. It wasn't until High Times magazine did I realize it, when I saw it in print.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Times
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Really made me laugh  Grin

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As buddy steers us steady in that 32k-34k groove. any large mine outside of china is getting 2x the coins they were 2 months ago.

the difficulty  coming up was at -12% it has drifted to -6%

this is very bullish it means gear is being removed from china and going back on line somewhere else.

the next adjustment should be in 6-8 days we should be in the -4% to -6% slot .  the adjustment after that should be a small up tick. maybe 2% that gets us to august/

I look for a huge breakout in the fall.
 and several major mines will have mined 2x the coins  per month during april and may for

 june ,july, august and sept.

In my small to medium farm we did .2311 coins for each of those months or .4622 coins

in june-july-aug-sept I think we will end up doing  .4300 for each of those 4 months or 1.72 coins

I then see a price rise to 70k> or more.



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I would give a 60% chance it's going down under 20k$ before it hits 40k$ per coin.

What I can't wait to see is how it will go back up to a new ATH after, I would be it goes pretty high pretty fast but especially if the USD$ goes down but a long hard multi-quarter winter sub 30K$ is also possible.

Yeah, I just stopped reading after the first sentence.

Not sure what kind of drugs your on but I'll pass.
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Yup, I remember that shit back in the day. thought it was a different strain like tie weed.
Mum'n Dad always told me to stay away from "the bums",

We preferred the term "Burnouts". Grin
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 Stuck in that 32-34 track

and my farm is grinding 0.0090 btc a day + .0060 a day net 0.0150

much  better than the .0077 it was doing back in may.

If this is a whale miner move to earn 2x the coins it is a very bullish sign.
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Btw….. Twitter trader n00bs again said BTC breaking out as predicted BS etc

Another proven time that short term trader insight = flawed and BS

DCA and long term perspective = the way
^ this is investment advice

Cheers and do as you pleased
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So, it's better to take their money, give it to a government agency and let the government agency do what they are already doing with their own money?

That way of thinking is why the western world is going downhill fast.

Don't bother, OP's only trying to boost his activity whilst hoping to gain a few lost Merits here and there.

I wonder if he pays taxes on his Bitvest bounty.....  Cool
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Short……


Where still extremely early.
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I would give a 60% chance it's going down under 20k$ before it hits 40k$ per coin.

Maybe 25% or perhaps as high as 30%, but jeez, 60% ?  That's pretty high odds, and seems to presume that $64,895 is the top for this cycle... or alternatively that this is a real strange correction.. but sure, don't put it past king daddy to have some strangeness, especially in the midst of a war.

What I can't wait to see is how it will go back up to a new ATH after, I would be it goes pretty high pretty fast but especially if the USD$ goes down but a long hard multi-quarter winter sub 30K$ is also possible.

Well, going below $20k would not likely bounce back as easy as you are making it out, but sure, such a thing is possible.. anything is possible.. and once we break above $64,895, it is seeming less likely that we will be revisiting sub $30k.. but again, anything is possible, but you do seem to be describing some pretty decently outlier scenarios (that are kind of wishful-thinking talking-points for bitcoin naysayers or those waiting for "cheap" coins that may not come).  

The next few months will be interesting in regards to these kinds of claims... if it takes that long to see something like either $40k, or $46k (which likely would get us out of the correction).. but yeah, I do consider testing to be a bit higher after going below $30k.. but we had already been below $30k so I doubt that $28,600 needs to be retested in order for BTC prices to resume up, but who knows any of these matters with any kinds of high levels of certainty.. especially 60% or greater.. w-oofta.
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Kraken down? I'm astonished to see there hasn't been any panic selling yet.

We only panic now if Elon tells us to panic on Twitter...

Well seeing as his "defacto layer 2" just failed, I imagine he will be telling us to shortly.

Actually this Elon/Doge/Defacto Layer 2 (banks) topic is extremely important to me so you are all going to get an exposition of exactly why Elon is a clown-fool even though he is really close to the truth.  (So skip now if that would irritate you lol)  The other real possibility is he is actively trying to destroy/subvert bitcoin, which would require him to be acting on a level HIGHER than what he is saying and therefore might just be as smart as many thought he was, but also evil.  I bet on the fact he is massively lucky rather than smart, and his recent actions have been an ignorant showing of his ass rather than a well planned manipulation of things to gain control of the world's emerging financial network.  Occam's razor, if you ask me.  The former is just way more likely.

If you have read any of my tomes in the past, you would know I often speak somewhat positively of "Bitcoin Banks".  This is a contentious position with OGs like us (and even the newcomers) because of the idea that banks are the enemy and Bitcoin banks would take part in all kinds of abominations such as fractional reserves, rehypothecation and all kinds of other shenanigans.

This whole issue strikes at two fundamental issues in Bitcoin which are often discussed, and though might be tiresome to continue to rehash (harhar) are important enough that we continue looking at them until we are clear of the sort of subversion that the smart/evil version of Elon could be up to. (doubt it)

1.  All of this finds it's roots in our favorite block size debate.  For bitcoin to scale it has two fundamental paths it can choose from - with exceedingly different tradeoffs.  The direction Elon is suggesting Doge should go is (correctly pointed our here by Wuckert) already well under way in the big block vision for bitcoin.  Complete with centralizing patents, lol

2. The vast majority are going to need to hire people to help them manage their wealth in Bitcoin.  There is just no way around this.  One argument could be that the tools to self-manage will get SO MUCH better that most could pull it off, but I have a hard time imagining this.  Simple holes in this theory like the $5 wrench attack just can't easily be overcome.  Sure we can use multi-sig and time locks etc to improve this but in the end MOST people (including most SMART ones) are going to need to hire someone to manage their BTC.  Grayscale, Coinbase, Kraken etc. obviously have the right idea (in SOME ways) in establishing themselves as the sorts of trusted third parties you can really trust! (tm).

So why is Elon wrong?  That's exactly what he is saying, right?  That exchanges will be the de facto layer 2, and working on scaling on the base layer is a worthy idea in light of that.

No. 

The problem does not lie in the fact that banks are centralizing forces.   That is close, but not exactly there.  The problem is if you centralize on the base layer, like Kurt wants us to do, then yes, ultimately bitcoin banks do not take anything away from you.  Because we are never decentralized at all.  So using a centralizing service on top of a centralized protocol is moot.  It does not make any difference.

Whereas starting with a DECENTRALIZED protocol allows us to CHOOSE to use a centralizing service or NOT.  That CHOICE is only available if we keep the base simple enough (and free of patents) to allow people to actually "be their own banks".

This is the distinction.  It is not that we MUST "be our own banks".  It is that we CAN.  That is the important detail.  And that is what is worth fighting for.

That is also the proof to me that Musk is a fool.

Because his moronic vision for how "crypto" should work is already being patented by nChain.  Though this is meaningless to Bitcoin... Wuckert has a point that Elon is just trying to reinvent the same retarded wheel that his  project it staking claim to.

The other option, that Elon is being used by the Powers that Be is a paranoid fantasy in my opinion.  He is inadvertently fighting for those powers, and I am sure they are pleased with his contributions.  It is just a matter of time before Carstens or LeGarde reaches out to him to slyly say "Boy... you seem to understand 'crypto' better than all the rest, perhaps you could help by being the face of our CBDC projects?".

These two approaches to the same thing look remarkably alike to an observer who is not keen enough to see the nuance.  Just as a huge set of black and white concentric rings is going to look almost EXACTLY like the set of white and black ones.  To Elon: "What's the difference?"  To people that understand, the are fundamentally night and day.

This is why I think it is so important to keep talking about the fundamental reason that Bitcoin matters at all.  It is not so we can have fast, cheap digital payments.  Even Satoshi almost seemed to miss this.  And this is the main reason I also think Hal was not him, because Hal got it from the top.  The whitepaper definitely describes the key element in Bitcoin's invention being the lack of need for trusted third parties, but the subtitle of the damn thing muddies the water, just because Satoshi had not gone enough levels deep in his understanding to know that it would be the FOUNDATION for decentralized (AND centralized) CASH SYSTEMS, but necessarily not that system itself, just as the engine is not the car.  Maybe he did realize this, but did not recognize that he would need to be ultra clear about it.  I doubt that though.  However, I have little to no doubt as to what his opinion would be on where we are NOW in the wake of mining centralization and the blocksize debate.

So...  Let's hope Elon finally figures out why he is showing his ass.  Yet, let's also make sure to watch him carefully. Because he is very powerful (for better or worse) on the world stage and could definitely throw a $5 wrench into the works, purposely, or just by bumbling around - as he appears to be doing.

In the end.  The REAL THING cannot be defeated.  But the more clarity we have on what matters - the quicker that inevitable victory is fully realized.

Carolina.
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I would give a 60% chance it's going down under 20k$ before it hits 40k$ per coin.

What I can't wait to see is how it will go back up to a new ATH after, I would be it goes pretty high pretty fast but especially if the USD$ goes down but a long hard multi-quarter winter sub 30K$ is also possible.

Nah
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I would give a 60% chance it's going down under 20k$ before it hits 40k$ per coin.

What I can't wait to see is how it will go back up to a new ATH after, I would be it goes pretty high pretty fast but especially if the USD$ goes down but a long hard multi-quarter winter sub 30K$ is also possible.
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Virgin female cannabis = sinsemilla. Later to be used with Pink Floyd albums and Doritos.

wow does that bring back memories. Animals (the pink floyd album) and sinse.. wadda combo for a weed noober like me back then. i still get head rushes on that.



Yup, I remember that shit back in the day. thought it was a different strain like tie weed.

Heh, me too, though i'm a bit younger than you. I was an early starter, despite my upper middle class parental background.
Mum'n Dad always told me to stay away from "the bums", but they were a dozen times more straightforward than what i knew from my family with the inbred stick-up-the-butt "syndrome"  Roll Eyes

EDIT: So if my children are buttstickers as welll when they will be grown-ups, i probably deserve it this way. But i already have an exit plan for living at the outer border of society when it's due.
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