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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 632. (Read 26468382 times)

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Poor again.

oh well.


Dinner....



It’s over. Seriously though, it’s funny the way human behavior works. I too am sad seeing this drop and it feels like the end of the world. However, it’s important to remember that we just dropped 4 days worth of gains. That’s basically nothing. We’ll see where it goes from here, but I don’t think we’ve come close to the high of this cycle yet.
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Gambling, speculating, investing.

Gambling on one end is the equivalent of throwing a die in the air and hoping it lands where you want it to. In contrast, investing is buying an asset that you can logically justify has a chance of increasing in value over the long term, all while accepting a level of risk that you consider reasonable.

Putting money into crypto assets is speculative at this stage as it holds characteristics of both gambling and investing.

One can justify that certain crypto assets have a chance of increasing in value over the long term. For instance, if mass adoption were to take place. However, gambling categorisation comes in because significant blindspots don't allow individuals to adequately consider the level of risk, such as how governments will choose to regulate crypto assets and which crypto assets (If any) garner mass adoption. These unknowns can have significant impacts on pricing.

I hope this helps us to understand the difference that when you hold bitcoin and when you stake bitcoin

You sound really lost.

Are you sure that you are in the correct thread?

Yeah, your last sentence shows that you are not afraid to use the word bitcoin, yet other than your actual use of the word (twice), you are not showing yourself to have much of a clue in regards to what is bitcoin, beyond what a mainstream pundit or a bot would garner from reviewing various mainstream sources.  So yeah, maybe if you were to spend 50 hours or more studying bitcoin you might start to get a bit of a clue.. perhaps? perhaps?  Sometimes it takes a bit longer, especially if you are starting out with a lot of bad information and trying to present yourself as if you actually know something about bitcoin.

to be fair the current strategy of someone who acquired coin at sub $1000 usd will be somewhat different in someone who entered at $60k.

but the main part.. the hodl part.. thats the important part.
You are right. Different individuals with their own unique strategies.  

Whatever happens, the mantra is hodl until forever ends which is the the individual's point of satisfaction with their asset accumulation.

Those sound like dumb and/or short-sighted approaches to personal financial management, especially when bitcoin accumulation is in the mix.

Generally speaking, BTC accumulation is the first stage, so you should be accumulating until you have enough.  I suppose HODL is contained within that concept - but the more important thing is continuing to build by ongoing buying...

Once you have enough, then you have more options, and sure there might be a period in which you are neither buying nor selling, but you just have enough, and maybe that is a kind of HODL.. HODL until the time comes to start to sell some, whether it is selling as the price goes up or selling on a regular basis, and perhaps even buying on dips.. but without necessarily significantly depleting the value of your BTC holdings, even though at some point you will go from a point in which your BTC holdings are going up and the maybe some later point where they are flat and then even later when your BTC holdings might largely be going down because you are spending from them.

Surely the pattern does not have to play out the same for everyone, and so there could be folks who have ever increasing flows of fiat that they could spend from sources other than their bitcoin - yet at some point there does seem to be some logic in spending some of your BTC, especially if you may well recognize that you have overly accumulated it.

Shit coins are equivalent to gambling and gambling is for losers. One can invest few bucks in shitcoins for fun but real focus and most of your capital should be going to Bitcoin alone. 1 bitcoin is difficult.
Investing in bitcoin is also gambling.
YOUR RIGHT!

Only your the HOUSE.
If you are the house the odds are in your favor.

If you are gambling the odds are against you.
"The odds are in your favour" is IMO quite an understatement with regards to BTC.

The ongoing persistent spot price volatility seems to cause a lot of confusion in regards to a wide-spread failure to recognize/appreciate bitcoin's value proposition.. and so many of us who have been studying the space for a while portray signs of dumbfoundness in regards to how so many normies don't seem to get it (literally and figuratively).

Been doing that everywhere lately, not sure if lazy or mind is just too old.

No more riding motorcycles into trees?  #askingforcontext
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weekend dump in the making ?

People probably cashing out to buy easter eggs.

Fookin' early this year....
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bitcoin retard
weekend dump in the making ?
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Poor again.

oh well.


Dinner....

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Hi guys keep enjoying the ride!


And dont forget this!   Cheesy Cheesy





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Surprised we're not higher with all the ETF buying.

The halving could be a rocket into the stratosphere.
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
So close to a new ATH.

We touched $73679 again but didn't pass it.

Soon.
Shit coins are equivalent to gambling and gambling is for losers. One can invest few bucks in shitcoins for fun but real focus and most of your capital should be going to Bitcoin alone. 1 bitcoin is difficult.
Investing in bitcoin is also gambling.
Getting out of bed is gambling.
^ This. And I might add: Even NOT getting out of bed is also gambling. Every fucking decision in life is some sort of "gambling"... and there's nothing wrong with that.

... Then there is the distinction between degenerate gambling vs rational gambling... but that's a different matter I CBA to discuss now... Those that know, know.

I hate to get caught up in any kind of argument that is devolving into semantics rather than meaningful attempts to assess differences in the kinds of risks that any of us might take in the way that we allocate value, whether we are choosing long term investing versus shorter term plays that might be trading and/or gambling (depending on how they might be played).

Just because everything can be assessed in terms of risk, that does not mean that everything is gambling, but yeah there are gradients, so that one persons assessment of probabilities of upside and/or downside may well end up being different, and one of the things that can come with investing and/or trading is a kind of lopsided investment that might ONLY measure the upside possibilities, and then that may well end up skewing behaviors into more risk taking than might otherwise be realized if a more thorough assessment had been made.

Don't get me wrong, I am not even against gambling, trading and/or taking some risks - even in terms of the employment of some investment strategies, yet some of the risk taking would likely be moderated by position size, if there had been some assessment that certain kinds of allocations might be on the risky side.

Maybe just to reiterate part of the reason this area of inquiry came up is within a context of comparing bitcoin and shitcoins, and so maybe some of us (including yours truly) becomes further triggered when there seems to be attempts to equate bitcoin and shitcoins, even though there are aspects of commonality between them, yet at the same time in this thread, over the years, we have had to express a lot less tolerance to bitcoin denigration that relates to shitcoin pumpening because such tolerances leads to just a ongoing slippery slope of never ending attempts to suggest which shitcoin might happen to be less shitty and potentially worthy of investment... which even if there might potentially be some good arguments, we are still devolving into off-topicness and opening too many cans of worms when even attempting to entertain those lines of reasons... so in that regards we are frequently better off with quips to "just say no" to shitcoins rather than potentially engaging in any arguments of subtle distinctions between shitcoins and bitcoin in the event that such at thing theoretically were to exist.



Shit coins are equivalent to gambling and gambling is for losers. One can invest few bucks in shitcoins for fun but real focus and most of your capital should be going to Bitcoin alone. 1 bitcoin is difficult.
Investing in bitcoin is also gambling.
Very not like gambling….
Investing is USD is not gambling as well. Surely, you will end up losing money.


For sure one of the things that we know about the dollar is that (so far) it has tended to lose value at a fairly steady rate, so it is not as volatile, yet at the same time we know the trend is down based on the way the whole system is designed around it.

So yeah, you are right, investing in the dollar is not a gamble, since the rate of loss is pretty steadily known.. even though there might be some short periods of greater or lesser loss.

Of course, we should realize by now that bitcoin is the opposite of the dollar, even though it remains quite volatile based on both how new it is and also some of the battles around its adoption... but yeah, not everyone knows about the price direction of bitcoin that many of us have figured out and some of the ETF oriented folks are starting to catch on, even though some of them might not realize the value of holding your own keys, yet.. .. but at the same time, a large part of the whole underlying value of bitcoin is the ability to hold your own keys - and so more and more folks will learn about that with the passage of time, even though the ETF still do not have a clear and direct path to transition from their custodial holding of the BTC versus being able to "in kind" transfer over the BTC to any person who might want to convert from third-party custody and into self-custody.
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He should be forced to change his name to Craig Wrong after all this faff.


Now I need to create one with Craig Wrong in prison stripes or an orange jumpsuit.

I wonder if the written judgment will lead to criminal charges for perjury, forgery, uttering, etc.

Counsel for COPA warned about that, and asked for evidence that could be possibly incriminating for perjury and related charges to be forwarded to criminal prosecution. What the prosecutor will do with that is unknown, but the prerequisites are all in place.

It’s safe to say this didn’t play out the way he thought it would. Imagine being the only person on earth who cannot say they are satoshi. So much money and time lost while not a single satoshi ever got unlocked for him on any chain. Absolutely hilarious. I’ll admit he had a good plan, but it failed miserably in execution.
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He should be forced to change his name to Craig Wrong after all this faff.


Now I need to create one with Craig Wrong in prison stripes or an orange jumpsuit.

I wonder if the written judgment will lead to criminal charges for perjury, forgery, uttering, etc.

Counsel for COPA warned about that, and asked for evidence that could be possibly incriminating for perjury and related charges to be forwarded to criminal prosecution. What the prosecutor will do with that is unknown, but the prerequisites are all in place.
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Shit coins are equivalent to gambling and gambling is for losers. One can invest few bucks in shitcoins for fun but real focus and most of your capital should be going to Bitcoin alone. 1 bitcoin is difficult.

Investing in bitcoin is also gambling.

YOUR YOU'RE RIGHT!

Only your you're the HOUSE.

Bruh.

Been doing that everywhere lately, not sure if lazy or mind is just too old.

I hear you bro.
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
Shit coins are equivalent to gambling and gambling is for losers. One can invest few bucks in shitcoins for fun but real focus and most of your capital should be going to Bitcoin alone. 1 bitcoin is difficult.

Investing in bitcoin is also gambling.

YOUR YOU'RE RIGHT!

Only your you're the HOUSE.

Bruh.

Been doing that everywhere lately, not sure if lazy or mind is just too old.
legendary
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GBTC's selling will soon no longer matter. Hopefully they go to zero with their fuckery.

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Investing in bitcoin is also gambling.

Investing in bitcoin is the opposite of gambling

I was thinking the same

Clear situation like that meme

For you it’s gambling for me it’s securing financial freedom… we are not the same kinda thing

Also being so long around and writing such nonsense Roll Eyes



Actually you won't know how long someone is around just by looking at the registration date of his account...

(I'm sure you know, but you can buy / exchange accounts, hack into abandoned ones, or create new accounts while being around for longer...)
legendary
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Shit coins are equivalent to gambling and gambling is for losers. One can invest few bucks in shitcoins for fun but real focus and most of your capital should be going to Bitcoin alone. 1 bitcoin is difficult.

Investing in bitcoin is also gambling.

YOUR YOU'RE RIGHT!

Only your you're the HOUSE.

Bruh.
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