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Quote from: Ibian on February 21, 2020, 08:48:30 AM

I'm just gonna leave this here. https://whnt.com/news/proposed-bill-would-require-men-in-alabama-to-get-vasectomy/

Link doesn't seem to work for IPs outside the US, but it speaks for itself anyway. Cliffnotes from what I was told, men over 50 or who has 3 kids would be required to become infertile via surgery if this passes.

However poorly conceived, its a joke.

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An Alabama lawmaker fed up with her colleagues' attempts to outlaw abortion has filed legislation to require all men over 50 to get vasectomies.

Democratic Rep. Rolanda Hollis said Friday that she introduced the bill to send "the message that men should not be legislating what women do with their bodies."

https://abc7news.com/5944620/

It would be funny if it passed, however, I don't think that it will.

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Quote from: mindrust on February 21, 2020, 08:48:32 AM

Personal Income Tax Rates

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Country	Tax Rate
Sweden	57.20
Japan	55.95
Denmark	55.80
Netherlands	51.75
Portugal	48.00
Australia	45.00
China	45.00
France	45.00
Germany	45.00
Greece	45.00
South Africa	45.00
Spain	45.00
United Kingdom	45.00
Italy	43.00
South Korea	42.00
Switzerland	40.00
United States	37.00
India	35.88
Argentina	35.00
Mexico	35.00
Turkey	35.00
Canada	33.00
Indonesia	30.00
Brazil	27.50
Singapore	22.00
Russia	13.00

USA looks like a bargain compared to the others. The only dealbreaker is, you get taxed twice if your income is outside of the US. I don't know if there are other countries doing this.

Those are regular income taxes, not capital gains which is what should apply to Bitcoin profits. Also, max rate doesn't mean anything. It is way more important to check the corresponding tax for each income bracket. I.e. In Spain you need to earn a lot to reach that 45%. In Denmark it seems you reach the max pretty easily.

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Quote from: Ibian on February 21, 2020, 08:54:14 AM

Quote from: vapourminer on February 21, 2020, 08:51:36 AM

Quote from: Ibian on February 20, 2020, 11:20:20 PM

The real bitch of a problem in all this is to find a place where people speak proper english.

that rules out the USA for you then (not that i think thats on your list btw).

Honestly Romania is looking better and better. Communism is illegal, you can live in a castle cheaper than a danish apartment, beautiful girls and everything is cheap, and their language appears to be reasonable to learn, and they speak decent to good english anyway. Couple months till my eastern europe tour, just hope corona-chan doesn't get all the borders closed before then.

All true ...but the bureaucracy is killer; a holdover from the communist era. You need papers and papers need translations, legalization, (sometimes) superlegalization, notorization and stamps but you cant pay for the stamps at the place you get the stamp, you have to pay somewhere else where you are issued a receipt... you ask a question and they are happy to oblige but when you get to the office you were told had what you need, you find out that the helpful person didnt know what they were talking about OR maybe they did and the person at the office you've arrived at just sucks at their job... and everything happens a little slower than you'd expect and then some.

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Quote from: mindrust on February 21, 2020, 08:48:32 AM

Personal Income Tax Rates

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Country	Tax Rate
Sweden	57.20
Japan	55.95
Denmark	55.80
Netherlands	51.75
Portugal	48.00
Australia	45.00
China	45.00
France	45.00
Germany	45.00
Greece	45.00
South Africa	45.00
Spain	45.00
United Kingdom	45.00
Italy	43.00
South Korea	42.00
Switzerland	40.00
United States	37.00
India	35.88
Argentina	35.00
Mexico	35.00
Turkey	35.00
Canada	33.00
Indonesia	30.00
Brazil	27.50
Singapore	22.00
Russia	13.00

USA looks like a bargain compared to the others. The only dealbreaker is, you get taxed twice if your income is outside of the US. I don't know if there are other countries doing this.

I find taxes that high seem unreasonably high. It's a shame to pay the tax twice, it's a robbery!

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Quote from: JimboToronto on February 21, 2020, 09:15:01 AM

Good morning Bitcoinland.

The battle for $10k rages on. Now we're about halfway back after Wednesday's big dip... currently $9757USD/$12935CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

We're a month away from springtime (northern hemisphere) and the halving is only a few weeks after that. In the meantime, we can enjoy the show with contented anticipation.

Go Bitcoin go.

Can't make heads or tails of the current market. We are either going up again after bouncing off the current support or we are dropping to 9000. We should see on the 23rd or 24th of this month a more clear direction. Either way, market is still too overbought for longing.

Quote from: Dabs on February 21, 2020, 08:19:25 AM

In any case, it was all acquired in 2012, so it's a few years before the crime was committed, and should not have been seized.

Quote from: bitserve on February 21, 2020, 09:18:22 AM

Quote from: JimboToronto on February 21, 2020, 09:15:01 AM

Then later the official part begins where they seize bank accounts, real estate, automobiles, etc. This is where good lawyers might block or reverse the seizures. The onus is generally on the accused to prove the assets were acquired through legal channels.

Yup, that's worldwide practise. And since he probably bought it with CASH and he is now a known convicted "drug" seller he will have a VERY hard time proving the money he used to buy those Bitcoins did come from legal "channels" and the source was "clean" money... hence the "fishing rod" accident.

This is why Bitcoin is so awesome. It creates a truly free market. And if people learn better OPSEC, the money will always be theirs.

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Quote from: JimboToronto on February 21, 2020, 09:15:01 AM

Then later the official part begins where they seize bank accounts, real estate, automobiles, etc. This is where good lawyers might block or reverse the seizures. The onus is generally on the accused to prove the assets were acquired through legal channels.

Yup, that's worldwide practise. And since he probably bought it with CASH and he is now a known convicted "drug" seller he will have a VERY hard time proving the money he used to buy those Bitcoins did come from legal "channels" and the source was "clean" money... hence the "fishing rod" accident (lol).

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Good morning Bitcoinland.

The battle for $10k rages on. Now we're about halfway back after Wednesday's big dip... currently $9757USD/$12935CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

We're a month away from springtime (northern hemisphere) and the halving is only a few weeks after that. In the meantime, we can enjoy the show with contented anticipation.

Go Bitcoin go.

Quote from: Dabs on February 21, 2020, 08:19:25 AM

In any case, it was all acquired in 2012, so it's a few years before the crime was committed, and should not have been seized.

LOL

In ~~most~~ many places the cops simply take everything they find and don't report it. This includes cash, electronics, jewelry, personal items, anything the individual officers might fancy for themselves. There is no accountability.

Then later the official part begins where they seize bank accounts, real estate, automobiles, etc. This is where good lawyers might block or reverse the seizures. The onus is generally on the accused to prove the assets were acquired through legal channels.

The cops must be fuming over this one. Cheesy

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on February 21, 2020, 08:29:28 AM

I have a Chinese friend who has a sister and she keeps staring at me but I am married 😂

Don't get too cocky..

May be she hates brown sugar... Tongue

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Quote from: vapourminer on February 21, 2020, 08:51:36 AM

Quote from: Ibian on February 20, 2020, 11:20:20 PM

The real bitch of a problem in all this is to find a place where people speak proper english.

that rules out the USA for you then (not that i think thats on your list btw).

Honestly Romania is looking better and better. Communism is illegal, you can live in a castle cheaper than a danish apartment, beautiful girls and everything is cheap, and their language appears to be reasonable to learn, and they speak decent to good english anyway. Couple months till my eastern europe tour, just hope corona-chan doesn't get all the borders closed before then.

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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

Quote from: Ibian on February 20, 2020, 11:20:20 PM

The real bitch of a problem in all this is to find a place where people speak proper english.

that rules out the USA for you then (not that i think thats on your list btw).

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Personal Income Tax Rates

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Country	Tax Rate
Sweden	57.20
Japan	55.95
Denmark	55.80
Netherlands	51.75
Portugal	48.00
Australia	45.00
China	45.00
France	45.00
Germany	45.00
Greece	45.00
South Africa	45.00
Spain	45.00
United Kingdom	45.00
Italy	43.00
South Korea	42.00
Switzerland	40.00
United States	37.00
India	35.88
Argentina	35.00
Mexico	35.00
Turkey	35.00
Canada	33.00
Indonesia	30.00
Brazil	27.50
Singapore	22.00
Russia	13.00

USA looks like a bargain compared to the others. The only dealbreaker is, you get taxed twice if your income is outside of the US. I don't know if there are other countries doing this.

Ibian

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I'm just gonna leave this here. https://whnt.com/news/proposed-bill-would-require-men-in-alabama-to-get-vasectomy/

Link doesn't seem to work for IPs outside the US, but it speaks for itself anyway. Cliffnotes from what I was told, men over 50 or who has 3 kids would be required to become infertile via surgery if this passes.

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better everyday ♥

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 21, 2020, 07:15:19 AM

skip

I don't think we can see that

Quote from: JSRAW on February 21, 2020, 07:28:50 AM

Damned! Can't find anything like that, it's unexpected Tongue

Need some help, someone who knows how to quote a smaller image like BitcoinGirl.Club did? I feel I take up a lot of space with image quotes, it's bad Roll Eyes

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on February 21, 2020, 08:29:28 AM

I have a Chinese friend who has a sister and she keeps staring at me but I am married 😂

Who cares if you're married or not? What she cares about is what you have there, because you are there Tongue

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yes

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on February 20, 2020, 03:41:05 PM

Quote from: rpietila on February 20, 2020, 03:38:56 PM

I think BTC is going to rise.

The legendary rpietila.

More evidence that this wil be ‘The One’....

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Farewell LEO: o_e_l_e_o

Quote from: JSRAW on February 21, 2020, 07:28:50 AM

Whose is this one? Roach?

Quote from: Last of the V8s on February 21, 2020, 07:26:27 AM

Is it because all their relatives died suddenly having once recovered of cytokine storm and pneumonia and were incinerated without ceremonies and dumped without fanfare, their numbers not even added to a total on a list somewhere?

I have a Chinese friend who has a sister and she keeps staring at me but I am married 😂

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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

Quote from: Ibian on February 20, 2020, 08:39:59 PM

Quote from: bitserve on February 20, 2020, 08:37:44 PM

Da fuck! What country are you in?!?? Never saw capital gains taxed so fucking high. That percentage is ridiculous even for regular salary income FFS!

50% income tax, give or take depending. 25% sales tax. Hidden taxes on everytyhing, not sure how much but not less than 50%. In total, 80-90% taxation.

Which is why there is no fucking way I will get off with ONLY 20% when they get around to bitcoin. States always want More.

Denmark, by the way.

50% ?? wtf.

makes that check i wrote to the irs a lot less painful.

much as i hate taxes and the fact i have no say in its distribution, at least i only pay if i made profit. capitol gains for stuff over a year old is 15%, of course the short term stuff is worse and varies with income and such (USA).

EDIT: of course we tax everything in site in addition to that so the actual figure is higher. sales tax varies per state and "built in" taxes can be pretty high.. cigarettes and gas in particular get taxed at a fairly high rate. so total tax paid varies considerably depending on how you count it.

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Quote from: Icygreen on February 21, 2020, 06:46:45 AM

Quote from: fragout on February 19, 2020, 09:29:24 AM

In other news -
6000 bitcoin on the shelf for 7 years after being seized by the Criminal Assets Bureau -

Full story - https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2020/0219/1116299-bit-coin-clifton-collins/

So it turns out the guy 'lost' the keys in a fishing rod accident for the 6000 BTC
Hahah, never heard that one before. LOL, Stick it to the man! Grin

Priceless, I like this dood already.
Marijuana grower loses keys to 6000 BTC

What did I say earlier? dood makes sure witnesses see and know it was in the fishing rod, which then gets stolen and lost. Paper can be backed up elsewhere too (it's not a backup if there is only 1 copy.) or buried.

In any case, it was all acquired in 2012, so it's a few years before the crime was committed, and should not have been seized.

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Quote from: Lambie Slayer on February 21, 2020, 04:57:56 AM

Quote from: bitserve on February 20, 2020, 10:39:25 AM

Quote from: Globb0 on February 20, 2020, 10:30:52 AM

Quote from: vapourminer on February 20, 2020, 08:47:01 AM

Quote from: P_Shep on February 20, 2020, 03:45:45 AM

Basically, the situation I'm in is if I didn't have BTC to supplement my income I'd have a very sad life; never eating out, no holidays, no 'nice' things every-so-often.
I'm VERY lucky to have BTC. Very.

treating ourselves to something extra every now and then via btc i mined or bought is the deal i made with my wife when i 1st got into btc.

gotta take profits at some point. we certainly enjoyed our "upgrades." works for me as this all could still take a digger.

Maybe ironic the treat for myself way back was to spunk some money on bitcoins, its full circle.

Not "maybe"... completely ironic I have tightened my expenses to absurd limits just for being able to hodling moar. When I could be spending way more than before (I have always been very frugal) I am spending even less than before. Ironic is even an understatement.

Admirable.

Nah. It's probably just greed. I am a professional satisfaction deferrer. Time will tell if I did right or were just a fool.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on February 21, 2020, 07:39:01 AM

Observing $9,752.

Looks like we could be recovering, above $10,000 again this weekend?

Wonder if the Bargain Boyzzzz filled their bags near $9,4xx?

Confirmed. Cheesy

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